Jose sighting in the wild

reza-butthertz has the unique ability to make 100's of amp clips all sound the same w/a creamback cab which for a hollywood sound guy is pathetic.
 
The amp is a legit Jose build. Not “finished” by Cameron. I have the sister amp to this one. They came from the same owner who went to Jose directly back in the day to have them modded. He took them to Jose, and got them back from Jose when they were done. That’s who they were purchased from. And they weren’t cheap. At all.

I know of another Jose that sold for over $20k recently. Same 3 in 1 mod. Not celebrity owned. Same as this one.

These amps do sound really good. They’re not super versatile. They have a sound and do it very well. The price isn’t for its versatility or features, although it’s some cool and unique ones, to be honest. It’s for the historical content, the guy who built it that was a pioneer in Marshall mods. That made amps that were used on countless numbers of your favorite songs by well-known artists. To me that’s the factor.

Rarity is the second component. How many of these come up? In reality, probably less for sale than Dumbles. And probably less out there in the world, but I doubt anyone really knows for sure.

I get that people are up in arms over the price, it’s a ton of money for an amp. But if you owned it, and another sells for over $20k in the past year, what are YOU going to list it for? It’s sticker shock for people who typically see amps in the $2-3k range, and I get that.

An interesting perspective is, you couldn’t even buy a Brazilian Murphy aged for less than this. I’d take the Jose over one of those any day.

I write all of this carefully so I don’t look like I’m defending anyone, trying to justify a price or improve the chances of the sale. Of course, I have interest in the market prices as I own a couple of these amps. That’s not my intent. I have no plans of selling mine. Yet.

Bottom line. Demand + supply = price.
 
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The amp is a legit Jose build. Not “finished” by Cameron. I have the sister amp to this one. They came from the same owner who went to Jose directly back in the day to have them modded. He took them to Jose, and got them back from Jose when they were done. That’s who they were purchased from. And they weren’t cheap. At all.

I know of another Jose that sold for over $20k recently. Same 3 in 1 mod. Not celebrity owned. Same as this one.

These amps do sound really good. They’re not super versatile. They have a sound and do it very well. The price isn’t for its versatility or features, although it’s some cool and unique ones, to be honest. It’s for the historical content, the guy who built it that was a pioneer in Marshall mods. That made amps that were used on countless numbers of your favorite songs by well-known artists. To me that’s the factor.

Rarity is the second component. How many of these come up? In reality, probably less for sale than Dumbles. And probably less out there in the world to be honest.

I get that people are up in arms over the price, it’s a ton of money for an amp. But if you owned it, and another sells for over $20k in the past year, what are YOU going to list it for? It’s sticker shock for people who typically see amps in the $2-3k range, and I get that.

An interesting perspective is, you couldn’t even buy a Brazilian Murphy aged for less than this. I’d take the Jose over one of those any day.

I write all of this carefully so I don’t look like I’m defending anyone, trying to justify a price or improve the chances of the sale. Of course, I have interest in the market prices as I own a couple houses these amps. That’s not my intent. I have no plans of selling mine. Yet.

Bottom line. Demand + supply = price.
I dont blame anyone for selling them that price. I am just amazed anyone wants to pay that much. It would be foolish to sell that for cheaper than what you can get.

But i am not sentimental. Whether it is a fizzy amp that was modded by (fill in the blank), or a shit that evh took and put in his refrigerator, i just couldnt care.
 
The price isn’t for its versatility or features. It’s for the historical content, the guy who built it that was a pioneer in Marshall mods. That made amps that were used on countless numbers of your favorite songs by well-known artists. To me that’s the factor.

Rarity is the second component. How many of these come up? In reality, probably less for sale than Dumbles. And probably less out there in the world to be honest.


its like finding a mustang that Shelby himself built, of course its gonna go for 10x what you could build a replica with new parts that is faster and handles better, its just not an original Shelby, a lot of guitar guys dont seem to think this way though and think they are paying for the tone
 
its like finding a mustang that Shelby himself built, of course its gonna go for 10x what you could build a replica with new parts that is faster and handles better, its just not an original Shelby, a lot of guitar guys dont seem to think this way though and think they are paying for the tone
I think at the base of it, it is a collector vs player. I know collectors of all types of shit. That light in their eyes when they find a new item. Some call it greed. I am just enamored with the phenomenon as it is an alien concept
 
The amp is a legit Jose build. Not “finished” by Cameron. I have the sister amp to this one. They came from the same owner who went to Jose directly back in the day to have them modded. He took them to Jose, and got them back from Jose when they were done. That’s who they were purchased from. And they weren’t cheap. At all.

I know of another Jose that sold for over $20k recently. Same 3 in 1 mod. Not celebrity owned. Same as this one.

These amps do sound really good. They’re not super versatile. They have a sound and do it very well. The price isn’t for its versatility or features, although it’s some cool and unique ones, to be honest. It’s for the historical content, the guy who built it that was a pioneer in Marshall mods. That made amps that were used on countless numbers of your favorite songs by well-known artists. To me that’s the factor.

Rarity is the second component. How many of these come up? In reality, probably less for sale than Dumbles. And probably less out there in the world, but I doubt anyone really knows for sure.

I get that people are up in arms over the price, it’s a ton of money for an amp. But if you owned it, and another sells for over $20k in the past year, what are YOU going to list it for? It’s sticker shock for people who typically see amps in the $2-3k range, and I get that.

An interesting perspective is, you couldn’t even buy a Brazilian Murphy aged for less than this. I’d take the Jose over one of those any day.

I write all of this carefully so I don’t look like I’m defending anyone, trying to justify a price or improve the chances of the sale. Of course, I have interest in the market prices as I own a couple of these amps. That’s not my intent. I have no plans of selling mine. Yet.

Bottom line. Demand + supply = price.
Well said. With many rare high dollar items most just have no idea what they’re worth since they’re not in market for it, so you get a lot of rude ignorant comments, but not from the guys that would actually go for it

In my main area in classical guitar anything over $20,000 at stores typically will be listed at “inquire” so that just those that are serious ask about the price to avoid the nonsense like “no guitar should be worth that much” blah blah blah

I have no idea anyway what real Jose’s go for, but I try to avoid most discussions when it gets heated about pricing. I think some just get upset that the market can make some cool stuff out of reach for many (myself included), but it is what it is and complaining about it doesn’t seem to solve it. I wish ‘50’s/‘60’s Strats and Tele’s didn’t go for so much, but it just means I won’t own one
 
Well said. With many rare high dollar items most just have no idea what they’re worth since they’re not in market for it, so you get a lot of rude ignorant comments, but not from the guys that would actually go for it

In my main area in classical guitar anything over $20,000 at stores typically will be listed at “inquire” so that just those that are serious ask about the price to avoid the nonsense like “no guitar should be worth that much” blah blah blah

I have no idea anyway what real Jose’s go for, but I try to avoid most discussions when it gets heated about pricing. I think some just get upset that the market can make some cool stuff out of reach for many (myself included), but it is what it is and complaining about it doesn’t seem to solve it. I wish ‘50’s/‘60’s Strats and Tele’s didn’t go for so much, but it just means I won’t own one
I disagree, somewhat. I wouldnt buy that amp if it was for 500$. I think more this is amusement and astonishment

Edit: i actually reread and agree with most of what you said. I am ignorant of this market and uninterested in it.

I am also not heated about the price just incredulous probably due to my ignorance. But i am also that guy that sees a guitar for that much and am just as amused.
 
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I think the biggest thing is look at an unmodded version of the amp. How much does it go for?

Now if the tone is shit to ok ( basically anything less than godly) then anything over triple the price is odd. For it to be history-related is fine. I understand that everyone doesnt share my opinion.

Sentimentality and hero worship have always been so strange to me
 
I mean the thing you have to realize here is that you are buying a COLLECTIBLE not just an amp. This isn’t an amp for players (I hate to say it but it’s true). You can get Jose tones for much cheaper if you just want that sound for your band or whatever. What you’re buying here is a piece of amp history. You’re making an investment (bet) that this amp will increase in price over the years.
 
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I disagree, somewhat. I wouldnt buy that amp if it was for 500$. I think more this is amusement and astonishment

Edit: i actually reread and agree with most of what you said. I am ignorant of this market and uninterested in it.

I am also not heated about the price just incredulous probably due to my ignorance. But i am also that guy that sees a guitar for that much and am just as amused.
I just try whatever gear I can and if it sounds exceptional to me and I can afford it I’ll buy it even if others laugh at the price. The Jose would be too much for me though unless when I’m older I can afford more somehow
 
I'd be ashamed spending that kind of money on a guitar amp. It's not history, it's a butchered classic I don't care what shit for brains jammed his weller in there and wiggled it around.
 
You're paying for the rarity and and name and history (if that stuff matters to you). But it's a pretty small group of people who even know the name "Jose". We're talking what... maybe 1,000 people in the entire world. Take all of that away, though, and it's a Superlead with a pretty basic mod that sounds kinda bad IMO. Then again, every clip from this guy sounds like that. So it's hard to say.
 
I know i am offending some of yiu, so I will only say one more thing.
This kind of stuff reminds me of stuff like the prayer cross, lmao, that "mysteriously" shows the Lord's prayer. (Look it up on youtube if you want to laugh).

Also, remember people buying these buffalo nickels clad in 24k gold

Or the dumbass trump superhero moneygrab cards...
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I just try whatever gear I can and if it sounds exceptional to me and I can afford it I’ll buy it even if others laugh at the price. The Jose would be too much for me though unless when I’m older I can afford more somehow
I respect the sounds exceptional part more than a piece of history..
 
Unfortunately, like RaceU4Her stated, it is basically about the market for collectors.
They can currently produce exact duplicates of a 1959 Les Paul burst, but the real thing is always going to be more valuable, because the supply has "dried up", and they have gotten even harder to acquire. But with the way that research has progressed, they have discovered how to age wood, and re-claim old wood these days, so some of the newer builds can actually sound better with tighter neck fittings and newer glue, etc....., or at least sound VERY close.
Not to mention that NOT EVERY 1958, 1959, and 1960 Les Paul even sounds great anymore, they are just impossible to get, hence the price. So as electronic components begin to age, wear out, and need replacing to keep the original Jose amps functional, the true unmolested originals are probably going to skyrocket in price.

I would easily seek out a Cameron mod, over this original Jose A. amp, any day of the week. BUT.... my wallet looks at things from a player's perspective, instead of a collector's standpoint. It is getting nearly impossible to find a real Jose mod anymore, so the prices are going up, and will continue to rise for people that absolutely MUST POSSESS one. But who knows, someone could buy this exact amp, and pass it down to their kid, who could eventually retire on it's worth, :cool:

It is all a shell game as far as collectability, and I just want to play my guitar........

Just my 2 cents......
 
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