Just make reasonable offer

I don't even f*** around with people like this, I will leave them on read. I have found that every single time someone asked what my lowest price is and they're not even willing to make an offer without me naming a lower price than I have listed first, they're not actually a serious buyer so I just move on without even dealing with it at this point
 
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I was selling a Rhoads ten years ago or so just to make some room so I wasn't in a hurry to unload it at all and had this guy start messaging me about it. This was early December because the story leads all the way up to Christmas Eve. Dude hits me up asking if I'll sell him the guitar for some ridiculous price and second time he hits me up he says "I'm trying to buy this for my son for a Christmas gift". Now if his offer would have even been in the realm of sanity I might have entertained it as I'm all for kids getting into music but this dude was basically wanting the guitar for free so I just told him no thanks, whatever.

Christmas Eve and my little sister is in from California and it's late and I'm driving to see her at my dad's house when my phone starts going off, I check my messages after I arrive and it is that same dude....he goes on through several texts saying "you remember how I said that guitar would be a gift to my son? Well, I lied and it's really for me, I don't even have a son but I just want it so bad and blah, blah, blah..." all this crap about how he's broke but just wants the guitar and made up this story....I cracked-up reading his messages - for one, why even tell me this as now I would never sell you anything, let alone at a discount and plus, I had already sold the guitar. A lot of nut jobs out there and just plain old stupid people which I do not have the time or patience for.
 
On the selling side, nearly everyone pads their asking price to some extent. So it's assumed that they will take less, and it's just part of the game. If someone asks me what's the lowest I'll take, then I'll usually tell them. I don't see it as any kind of character flaw on their part.

From the buyer's perspective, I fall into two camps. If what your selling is priced reasonably and I want it, I buy it. No haggling, no fuss, no muss and it's a done deal. If I feel that your price might be high then I'll generally ask if there is any wiggle room. If that's followed with the standard "make me an offer" , I generally won't do it but it really just depends on the asking price. If we're close, I'll sometimes throw an offer but if you're asking asinine prices then I won't. Doesn't mean that I'm not a serious buyer, but I firmly believe in never pricing another person's merchandise. At that point, I usually ask them to throw a number out that they can live it and if that number works for me then I pay them. If it doesn't, then I thank them for their time and walk away. If they want to ghost me after I ask for "the price they can live with", so be it. No skin off my nose, but chances are I won't try to deal with you again. Just like those that say people who won't make an offer are not serious buyers, it works both ways in my opinion. If you're a seller that's so easily offended by a question, then I probably don't want to deal with you anyway. Cash spends the same everywhere and I've learned that unless it's something super special or rare, it'll eventually show up for a price that I'm comfortable paying and I don't mind waiting. However, if you keep insisting that I make an offer, don't get your panties in a bunch when I finally do because you can bet your ass it's going to be low. :ROFLMAO:
 
On the selling side, nearly everyone pads their asking price to some extent. So it's assumed that they will take less, and it's just part of the game. If someone asks me what's the lowest I'll take, then I'll usually tell them. I don't see it as any kind of character flaw on their part.

From the buyer's perspective, I fall into two camps. If what your selling is priced reasonably and I want it, I buy it. No haggling, no fuss, no muss and it's a done deal. If I feel that your price might be high then I'll generally ask if there is any wiggle room. If that's followed with the standard "make me an offer" , I generally won't do it but it really just depends on the asking price. If we're close, I'll sometimes throw an offer but if you're asking asinine prices then I won't. Doesn't mean that I'm not a serious buyer, but I firmly believe in never pricing another person's merchandise. At that point, I usually ask them to throw a number out that they can live it and if that number works for me then I pay them. If it doesn't, then I thank them for their time and walk away. If they want to ghost me after I ask for "the price they can live with", so be it. No skin off my nose, but chances are I won't try to deal with you again. Just like those that say people who won't make an offer are not serious buyers, it works both ways in my opinion. If you're a seller that's so easily offended by a question, then I probably don't want to deal with you anyway. Cash spends the same everywhere and I've learned that unless it's something super special or rare, it'll eventually show up for a price that I'm comfortable paying and I don't mind waiting. However, if you keep insisting that I make an offer, don't get your panties in a bunch when I finally do because you can bet your ass it's going to be low. :ROFLMAO:
Well you’re the odd man out, then. I can price something for a deal compared to others out there and I will still get “what’s your best price” “what’s the lowest you’ll take” or trade offers that make no sense.

Way too many times I have even offered them a bit lower price and these types will act like they’re going to buy it and then flake out. I think a lot of these guys just don’t have the money and can’t buy the item anyway but they’re getting some kind of weird fix by “almost” buying it. Meanwhile they’re wasting my time all the way up to setting up a meeting to do a deal only to bail with some shit like “Something came up/had to go to the doctor/need to wait for next paycheck.”

Once or twice I’ve been too nice and let some shiftless dude string me along while he swears he will “come get it next week” or whatever. I had a dude texting me he was on his way and then an hour later text again saying his wife will be mad if he buys it so he’s not coming after all.

It’s unbelievable out there, man.
 
Well you’re the odd man out, then. I can price something for a deal compared to others out there and I will still get “what’s your best price” “what’s the lowest you’ll take” or trade offers that make no sense.

Way too many times I have even offered them a bit lower price and these types will act like they’re going to buy it and then flake out. I think a lot of these guys just don’t have the money and can’t buy the item anyway but they’re getting some kind of weird fix by “almost” buying it. Meanwhile they’re wasting my time all the way up to setting up a meeting to do a deal only to bail with some shit like “Something came up/had to go to the doctor/need to wait for next paycheck.”

Once or twice I’ve been too nice and let some shiftless dude string me along while he swears he will “come get it next week” or whatever. I had a dude texting me he was on his way and then an hour later text again saying his wife will be mad if he buys it so he’s not coming after all.

It’s unbelievable out there, man.
A few years ago, I agreed to buy 3 Boss pedals off a guy. He gave me his address, and I drove 45 min to his house. I knocked on his door, no answer. Waited, waited. Called his phone a couple times. No answer. I said screw it and left. About 10 minutes later, my phone rings and he says "Yeah, I know you were at my house, but I decided not to sell the pedals, I am going to keep them". People are assholes.
 
Gotta “love” when I have a Reverb listing that does not have ‘Make an Offer’ enabled and someone messages me with “Will you take an offer”? State your offer in that first message, dipshit. Like now I’m supposed to go out of my way to coax it out of you? Fuck right off.

And oh man you should have seen the messages I got when selling a Krankenstein, oh boy did the kooks come out of the woodwork for that one. I got the amp super cheap off Craigslist just to play for a hot minute and flip it, dude was using it a pedal platform and didn’t know what it was. Holy shit, the Dimebag fans have a collective IQ of 30. Offers for less than half its value were a common occurrence, and I didn’t have Make An Offer enabled. And I listed the cab to be local only via Reverb and some person was trying to get me to use some obscure freight courier with an offer where I would net $200. I imagine the amp has found a happy home now with 4 square meals of Jack Daniels a day and some dude playing just the one riff from MOP while his drunken buddy yells, “Play some Skynyrd!”
 
A few years ago, I agreed to buy 3 Boss pedals off a guy. He gave me his address, and I drove 45 min to his house. I knocked on his door, no answer. Waited, waited. Called his phone a couple times. No answer. I said screw it and left. About 10 minutes later, my phone rings and he says "Yeah, I know you were at my house, but I decided not to sell the pedals, I am going to keep them". People are assholes.
That is fucking unfathomable to me, man! The fathoms I cannot.
 
Well you’re the odd man out, then. I can price something for a deal compared to others out there and I will still get “what’s your best price” “what’s the lowest you’ll take” or trade offers that make no sense.

Way too many times I have even offered them a bit lower price and these types will act like they’re going to buy it and then flake out. I think a lot of these guys just don’t have the money and can’t buy the item anyway but they’re getting some kind of weird fix by “almost” buying it. Meanwhile they’re wasting my time all the way up to setting up a meeting to do a deal only to bail with some shit like “Something came up/had to go to the doctor/need to wait for next paycheck.”

Once or twice I’ve been too nice and let some shiftless dude string me along while he swears he will “come get it next week” or whatever. I had a dude texting me he was on his way and then an hour later text again saying his wife will be mad if he buys it so he’s not coming after all.

It’s unbelievable out there, man.

Don't get me wrong. I don't disagree with what you're saying at all. Believe me, I've run into my share of flakes too. Is it frustrating? Sure is! But, it's just the nature of the game and dealing with folks on the interwebz. I just find it amusing that so many people get so bent out of shape over a potential buyer asking a simple question, and immediately want to dismiss that person out of hand for even asking it. If a person doesn't have the fortitude to deal with these things, then maybe selling ain't for them. Just sayin'.
 
I once was selling a no name Jazz bass copy I paid around 300 new. It was in almost new shape, solid wood and most important, everything was working (Pickups, Tuners, Truss rod etc, no fret wear). Perfect beginner instrument I was asking 100 bucks for.

Guy offers 60 bucks. I think lets meet in the middle and tell him 80. Of course the idiot offers 65. I stop replying (while thinking if someone doesn`t want to pay 80 for a working instrument, than it`s his problem). Guy writes me again, he will come pick it up for 65.-. I don`t reply. Guy tells me he will come pick it up for 80.- and ask for the address. I don`t reply.

I end up giving the bass to a semi-professional seller I`ve got some nice deals in the past and tell him, put it up for 100 bucks. Bass sells within 3 days.
 
When buying I don't haggle. Just pay what the asking price is. When selling I don't like to haggle either but I will at a very low level. The only time I try to get some wiggle room is if I'm buying from a friend or company that I do a lot of business with like "can I pay the down payment then make additional payments vs the down payment then the balance all at once". This always helps me cause I can make sure that the amp/guitar or whatever doesn't finish earlier than expected then I need to have 2-3k ready. I like to knock the price down over the wait time so that when it does finish I'm in a position that I can pay the balance easily.
 
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I don't even f*** around with people like this, I will leave them on read. I have found that every single time someone asked what my lowest price is and they're not even willing to make an offer without me naming a lower price than I have listed first, they're not actually a serious buyer so I just move on without even dealing with it at this point
Exactly what I do too, for the most part.

I've sold enough stuff through Reverb and FB marketplace to know that as soon as this question comes out the offers are going to be absurd and not worth the time engaging .
 
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A few years ago, I agreed to buy 3 Boss pedals off a guy. He gave me his address, and I drove 45 min to his house. I knocked on his door, no answer. Waited, waited. Called his phone a couple times. No answer. I said screw it and left. About 10 minutes later, my phone rings and he says "Yeah, I know you were at my house, but I decided not to sell the pedals, I am going to keep them". People are assholes.
I had something similar happen to me recently. Made plans with this guy to meet him near the airport to trade amps because we both live far away, that was about half way and I was already going there to drop off a family member. I specifically picked this day because he had told me the days around them were no good because he'd be "stuck at home." Whatever, no big deal.

I get to the airport, drop family member off and tell him I'm on the way to meet (I'd already confirmed I was leaving soon, then when I was leaving, so he could start heading over). The guy texts me back and then starts calling me over and over as I'm trying to fight traffic out of there to tell me that he's stuck at home and can't leave and then sends me his address, an hour and 15 min away. I told him I don't have time to drive 3.5+ round trip and he says I'm getting the better deal and it's okay, I should come out cause his amp is way better anyway. No way dude, fuck that. I ain't got time for that kinda BS. At least I picked a day when I was already going out there cause I would've been mad pissed if I got to the meet and he pulled that shit.

What made it even more ridiculous was the guy kept messaging me for days after asking if I still wanted the amp and I kept telling him, not if I have to come all the way to his house and he didn't seem to get it. I just ended up leaving him in read cause I decided that he must've just been really dumb.
 
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I've had it happen where I won't come down to their price, and they buy it anyway, and then they get it and split hairs over cosmetic condition where they want a partial refund that brings it down to what they wanted to pay in the first place. I'm like, no worries, is everything good otherwise? And once they confirm everything else is fine, I tell them they can return it for a refund if they're not happy.

People requesting partial refunds is a huge red flag. As much as there may be times when that's justified, most of the time it's someone manufacturing a way to get an additional discount.
 
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