Kirk Hammett: “Maybe the age of active pickups is over”

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all my old custom shop gibby's killed at the brootz...even my standard issue stuff with 498's and 500's. My custom shop stuff..all of them had burstbuckers or 57's.....I was amazed when I saw the Metallica documentary and pretty much every recording scene was them with a les paul with non active pups. Hey whatever works right?

I never had the desire to change the stock pickups in my SG Standard, or Les Paul Standard. Took me awhile to dial in the Burstbuckers in the LP, but I now dig them. In fact, they chug better than higher output pickups, including the Fluence Moderns in my Schecter. And they're half the output of a JB. Literally. Clarity is where its at. Looking to yank the JB out of my Jackson..
 
I never had the desire to change the stock pickups in my SG Standard, or Les Paul Standard. Took me awhile to dial in the Burstbuckers in the LP, but I now dig them. In fact, they chug better than higher output pickups, including the Fluence Moderns in my Schecter. And they're half the output of a JB. Literally. Clarity is where its at. Looking to yank the JB out of my Jackson..


i dont know how you define chug, that seems to be different for everyone or if there are different versions of burstbuckers, but the burstbucker 61s i recently put in my les paul were the least chugging pickups ive heard in any guitar ever. big, open and clear they definitely are, but chugging?? those things were like the antichug
 
i dont know how you define chug, that seems to be different for everyone or if there are different versions of burstbuckers, but the burstbucker 61s i recently put in my les paul were the least chugging pickups ive heard in any guitar ever. big, open and clear they definitely are, but chugging?? those things were like the antichug
My LP has the BB1 & BB2. I experienced the 61's in my LP Classic. Those, I found somewhat lifeless..
 
I think any PAF type chuggs no problem. Some better than others. But Bill Steer uses Duncan '59's in his Les Pauls. And Joe Duplantier's signature DiMarzio is just an overwound PAF-type.

My favorite recorded Metal(core) tone was recorded with Burstbucker Pros.

I do tend to favor A5 for the chuggs, personally. I find A2 PAF's slightly soft and underpowered. I had some Burstbucker 3/2's that sounded pretty weak and thin. I think the Burstbucker family in general is voiced that way. But I'm sure they can be made to work.

I mean... this is the BBP:



Might not be the heaviest most brutal Death Metal, but I mean... heavier than what Kirk is currently playing for sure.
 
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While I have guitars with both actives and passives, in a certain fashion, I feel as if the high gain amplifier market has evolved in such a way that it has outgrown the necessity for active pickups. When the EMG 81 hit the market it was a really effective and efficient means of adding gain, attack, tightness and brightness to the amplifiers of that late 80s to early 90s period. But as the amp manufacturers began to recognize these trends and respond to the tastes of hard rock and metal players the amps inherent high gain capabilities began to get tighter and more aggressive ( to the point of overkill in my opinion ). When you add in a high output active pickup to many of these amps, not only can it be aggregous, but you are often sacrificing too much character, warmth and well...just plain old tone in the process. While a Marshall 800 can really benefit from the output and frequency bump of an active pickup, many modern high gain amps seem to sound better ( to my ears ) with a medium output passive as the front end of the amp is doing all the heavy lifting in regard to gain, tightness and attack. Then there are amplifiers that seem to take well to both...such as the Diezel VH4. Just some thoughts.
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I think any PAF type chuggs no problem. Some better than others. But Bill Steer uses Duncan '59's in his Les Pauls. And Joe Duplantier's signature DiMarzio is just an overwound PAF-type.

My favorite recorded Metal(core) tone was recorded with Burstbucker Pros.

I do tend to favor A5 for the chuggs, personally. I find A2 PAF's slightly soft and underpowered. I had some Burstbucker 3/2's that sounded pretty weak and thin. I think the Burstbucker family in general is voiced that way. But I'm sure they can be made to work.

I mean... this is the BBP:



Might not be the heaviest Death Metal ever, but I mean... heavier than what Kirk is currently playing for sure.



that tone dosent really do it for me at all in the chugs, the bass is very low though and not helping out much, even still though i just dont hear much girth. i have a few paf style pickups here that chug just fine but i those burstbuckers were just terrible :dunno:
 
that tone dosent really do it for me at all in the chugs, the bass is very low though and not helping out much, even still though i just dont hear much girth. i have a few paf style pickups here that chug just fine but i those burstbuckers were just terrible :dunno:
Oh, yeah, PAF's aren't about girth. Other than filtertons, stacked single coils, or other specialty pickups, PAF's are about as thin-sounding as a humbucker gets.

But I do get the chuggy fat vibe from that tone, personally. Each to his own. :)

But yeah, I wouldn't say PAF's being used for metal are about girth. More about bite and attack. Some people say "clarity and dynamics", but I would contest that. Like I said, by the time you drop enough gain on them to get the chuggzz going (compared to a high output pickup), you've kinda negated what clarity and dynamics you "gained" from using them in the first place. But that's just my experience.

I do like them, don't get me wrong. Just not for "clarity and dynamics", like many people are saying. And they certainly aren't your everyday metal tone either.
 
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I've never heard him play a lead, or anything, where the dynamics of the guitar feature.
Why would he care now? The latest album prob has some of the worst, most over compressed tones from him, so I don't get why at this stage he seems to care about the virtues of passives.
It's always been the compressed gainy tone of a pickup on 10, into a TS9, into a Marshall as his core lead tone. Why would playing passives make any difference to his resulting tone?
Hell, you can barely discern any variety of amps he plays. All the great gear and it just ends up sounding like a gained up guitar into a pedal, into a gained up generic metal sounding amp. Maybe passives sound better for his lazy pentatonic licks.
All the money and history in the Greeny guitar he's obsessed with, and you couldn't tell the sonic difference between that and his normal LP's and actives on record or on stage with how he runs them anyway. If he was a low/mid gain player it would make sense.

I think it's a strange coincidence that he's now a team Gibson artist and he's talking up passives, unlike his sole endorsement ESP and EMG days.
 
…And I think the older emg's are better. I have no way to back this claim up other than having guitars with newer sets versus older sets.
At some point after 2017 they started making their pickups with much less gain. Manufacture dates are on the backs of the pickups which makes it easy to verify in a comparison. I was on the phone with EMG a few years ago after they sent me a second 81 in a row that was lower gain, turns out they weren’t even aware and it’s due them changing manufacturers.

If you want your modern EMG’s to sound like the old ones you have to install one of their onboard boosts and add like 10ish db of boost. Up side is now your cleans can sound cleaner, down side is you have to spend extra $ on the boost thingy.
 
I still have the standard old-logo 81/85 set @9v in a couple of guitars. To me it's just like using a non-adjustable boost, although you can tailor it a bit with higher voltage if wanted. If I run a boost after actives it is usually a non-clipping type eq or clean boost.
 
They both have their place.

PAFs sound fantastic for high gain/metal

And IME most of the people who dont think so, play with too much gain

EMGs/actives can sound great. A lot of their poor reputation is from a lot of boring modern guitarists with boring modern tone
When i first played emgs, i was biased against them. Theu sounded beautiful. Only thing i didnt like was draining the battery when left plugged in. Which i did because of wireless system
 
I use PAF's in my 2 guitars (Knaggs Kenai w/ bareknuckle mules / Heritgage Inc H150 w/ SD 59s) and I love them, I play hard rock/ old school thrash stuff and I never had any issues at all sound wise. So just play what your ears prefer. I think more people should really sit down and think about playing as much as they think about sounds/tones etc, it is great to discuss things but at the same time keep it in check and play your damn guitar.
 
It definitely comes down to whatever your situation is and what you play, and then obviously what amp you’re playing through. Are you recording where other guitars and bass can fill in sonically or are you a solo/bedroom player? I think that helps dictate where your “alone in the room” tone should go. I have had all passives, all actives, and a mix over the years. We play/record rock/hard rock and I run an EVH 5150 stealth 50W head.

Currently I have 3 N4’s with a Bill & Becky L500XL in the bridge (various tunings) and a Jim Root Strat with the stock EMG 81/60 set up and the 24V mod. While I like the Strat, if I plug it in right after an N4, it sounds like I have a blanket over the speaker. Not as much clarity and sounds a bit fuzzy, not as crisp or crunchy. Granted the 500XL is a special kind of pickup and not for everyone. I also just recently sold a Charvel pro mod that had a single Fishman Fluence modern alnico. It was fine but for me I prefer the EMG 81.

For anyone interested in comparison…here’s one of our songs with EMG’s


And one with the 500XL
 
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