Larry PMM … so far

Techdeth said:
Don’t make me do it lol
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Don't do anything you don't want to Tech. You don't owe anyone here clips until you feel like sharing them. Just enjoy your new amp, I bet you shucked a lot of corn to afford that sucker. Does it smell like cigs?
 
Nashville Riff Co said:
How would you compare tone and feel to the Cameron’s and Wizards youve played? Appreciate any feedback!
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Camerons are usually diode clipping amps and are more compressed and greasier.

Larry has less stuffiness and more clarity than the Wizards. Maybe not as much punch, though.

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I’m not targeting anyone specific with the following. This is just a general statement. And I am in no way knocking this PMM as I know it sounds great, as have other Larrys I’ve played.

I will say this, and take it for what you will. I have owned and played a lot of amps, many high end, rare, etc, etc…. Camerons, Larrys, Joses, the list goes on. My conclusion is this - there is no magic unicorn dust in any of them. Sure, some are better than others, but they are all in the same top tier arena. None are miles above the others or mind-blowingly better. I’ve had friends play some of these super hyped amps and scratch their heads wondering why there’s so much internet lore regarding them. You can only do so much with a circuit. There’s just no voodoo involved that’s going to create this amp that so is far ahead of all the rest.

Hype is 100% a thing. Driven by rarity, prices, eccentric and/or scamming amp builders that somehow attract people like flies, with outstretched hands clenching wads of US currency (this one I’ll never understand).

I think many of us are guilty of paying an exorbitant amount of money for a rare and hyped amp and then hyping it ourselves, whether consciously or not, to justify the cost and effort in obtaining it. The bottom line is, if these amps with extraordinary demand, usually created by the person creating them in the first place, were as easily attainable as the average amp, they’d be considered more average in the end.

My proof of the above is that I’ve had multiple people play these super hyped amps and then immediately A/B with an easily attainable, good sounding amp and they picked the non-hyped amp almost every time. Which could be psychological, as you’re expecting something other-worldly from these hype amps and when that doesn’t happen and it just sounds like another really good amp, your expectations are not met.

Rare and hard to get sells. I doubt it’s specific to guitar amps, but they are certainly not exempt.
 
RedPlated said:
Camerons are usually diode clipping amps and are more compressed and greasier.

Larry has less stuffiness and more clarity than the Wizards. Maybe not as much punch, though.

———

I’m not targeting anyone specific with the following. This is just a general statement. And I am in no way knocking this PMM as I know it sounds great, as have other Larrys I’ve played.

I will say this, and take it for what you will. I have owned and played a lot of amps, many high end, rare, etc, etc…. Camerons, Larrys, Joses, the list goes on. My conclusion is this - there is no magic unicorn dust in any of them. Sure, some are better than others, but they are all in the same top tier arena. None are miles above the others or mind-blowingly better. I’ve had friends play some of these super hyped amps and scratch their heads wondering why there’s so much internet lore regarding them. You can only do so much with a circuit. There’s just no voodoo involved that’s going to create this amp that so far ahead of all the rest.

Hype is 100% a thing. Driven by rarity, prices, eccentric and/or scamming amp builders that somehow attract people like flies, with outstretched hands clenching wads of US currency (this one I’ll never understand).

I think many of us are guilty of paying an exorbitant amount of money for a rare and hyped amp and then hyping it ourselves, whether consciously or not, to justify the cost and effort in obtaining it. The bottom line is, if these amps with extraordinary demand, usually created by the person creating them in the first place, were as easily attainable as the average amp, they’d be considered more average in the end.

My proof of the above is that I’ve had multiple people play these super hyped amps and then immediately A/B with an easily attainable, good sounding amp and they picked the non-hyped amp almost every time. Which could be psychological, as you’re expecting something other-worldly from these hype amps and when that doesn’t happen and it just sounds like another really good amp, your expectations are not met.

Rare and hard to get sells. I doubt it’s specific to guitar amps, but they are certainly not exempt.
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thank you!

 
RedPlated said:
Camerons are usually diode clipping amps and are more compressed and greasier.

Larry has less stuffiness and more clarity than the Wizards. Maybe not as much punch, though.

———

I’m not targeting anyone specific with the following. This is just a general statement. And I am in no way knocking this PMM as I know it sounds great, as have other Larrys I’ve played.

I will say this, and take it for what you will. I have owned and played a lot of amps, many high end, rare, etc, etc…. Camerons, Larrys, Joses, the list goes on. My conclusion is this - there is no magic unicorn dust in any of them. Sure, some are better than others, but they are all in the same top tier arena. None are miles above the others or mind-blowingly better. I’ve had friends play some of these super hyped amps and scratch their heads wondering why there’s so much internet lore regarding them. You can only do so much with a circuit. There’s just no voodoo involved that’s going to create this amp that so is far ahead of all the rest.

Hype is 100% a thing. Driven by rarity, prices, eccentric and/or scamming amp builders that somehow attract people like flies, with outstretched hands clenching wads of US currency (this one I’ll never understand).

I think many of us are guilty of paying an exorbitant amount of money for a rare and hyped amp and then hyping it ourselves, whether consciously or not, to justify the cost and effort in obtaining it. The bottom line is, if these amps with extraordinary demand, usually created by the person creating them in the first place, were as easily attainable as the average amp, they’d be considered more average in the end.

My proof of the above is that I’ve had multiple people play these super hyped amps and then immediately A/B with an easily attainable, good sounding amp and they picked the non-hyped amp almost every time. Which could be psychological, as you’re expecting something other-worldly from these hype amps and when that doesn’t happen and it just sounds like another really good amp, your expectations are not met.

Rare and hard to get sells. I doubt it’s specific to guitar amps, but they are certainly not exempt.
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This PMM is just as punchy . Even mores so probably . And you know I love my wizards . I can’t wait until Monday to play it more . But you’re right it’s beyond clear and articulate at all times . I never really got into Cameron’s so idk . But fuck the PMM is a punch monster . I’d love to see what you think about Larry’s metal machine . Btw the hellion and Hermansson flagship are the only 2 amps I’ll get in future. My students who have your amps Absolutley love them
 
Jimty said:
And maybe an electro acoustic, through a Boss acoustic simulator pedal, into the clean channel for good measure.

And a bass through through a Metal Zone….
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The only OD clips should be vocals and the sound of Tech's foot tapping on his plush silver rug.
 
Techdeth said:
This PMM is just as punchy . Even mores so probably . And you know I love my wizards . I can’t wait until Monday to play it more . But you’re right it’s beyond clear and articulate at all times . I never really got into Cameron’s so idk . But fuck the PMM is a punch monster . I’d love to see what you think about Larry’s metal machine . Btw the hellion and Hermansson flagship are the only 2 amps I’ll get in future. My students who have your amps Absolutley love them
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That’s great man. I 100% believe that it sounds really good. Obviously I haven’t played a PMM as they’re probably the rarest of the Larry line up.

I played a 939 recently and the Hot Rod British channel was super articulate and aggressive.
 
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