Late 80's & early 90's rack effects for guitar

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romanianreaper":xvqlehlf said:
Zachman":xvqlehlf said:
Aloha... I am now in Arizona. In-Laws getting old and needed help, so... I closed the shop, and brought everything with me, figuring I could re-open here. Thank God I didn't, or the shutdowns would've killed me. Everything is in storage, and I'm just hanging in there. Maybe I'll liquidate to an existing shop. Dunno

Oh man, that's crazy dude. You never know man. You still have the stuff so might be able to work something out down the line. Glad to hear you are well man!

:cheers:
 
phil b":ix86fi6k said:
Purpleibby":ix86fi6k said:
Goat":ix86fi6k said:
Purpleibby":ix86fi6k said:
Goat":ix86fi6k said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
Thats the beauty of the Intellifex though. You dont need a mixer for it to sound great. One of the main reasons for using mixers is to preserve the dry tone. That was the premise for them back in the day. A LOT of the earlier units did not have an analog path and the core tone was terrible. Units like the Gmajor and similar all in one units are really designed for series. Thats not to say you cant run in parallel, but in doing so a lot of the effects cant be used..ie. compressor,eq, gates..etc.


True, however; the Intelliverb doesn't even come close to the tone, and depth/lushness of the Lexicon. That said, I hate the MPX-1 compared to the PCM 80 and PCM 81. Programming it isn't exactly user friendly, vs the Intelliverb-- That's certain. Definitely considerations with both the MPX-1 and the Intelliverb
 
romanianreaper":2pxrs916 said:
Thunkful":2pxrs916 said:
Zachman":2pxrs916 said:
My madness

full
:inlove: :inlove: :inlove: :worship:
Crazy fucking rig, that's straight rack porn right there!

Dude you don't even know. Zach, our friend Carlos and I were hanging out and I got to play thru his setup. It sounded insane! We had a great laugh at one point. Carlos told me to play and then he hit a pedal. Every he hit it he'd yell "There's $1000", "There's $5000, etc. :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:

Definitely had that tone like standing on a stage and being "enveloped" with great tone. I heard it in a band context a few months after that at one of his gigs and sounded insane. That and a Cameron mod amp sounded awesome.

I don't remember, but did I have this (Cameron Atomica) yet? I LOVE this thing





 
Zachman":3iiwzpm8 said:
I don't remember, but did I have this (Cameron Atomica) yet? I LOVE this thing






Sick!!! :) I think you were using Carlos' Cameron Jose Mod. This was 09' or maybe 10'. It's funny because I remember I came to the shop the week you joined that Journey tribute band and you were learning some of the songs. Man the three of us used to just talk about tones, gear, etc. Good memories!
 
Zachman":2i7hyv9v said:
phil b":2i7hyv9v said:
Purpleibby":2i7hyv9v said:
Goat":2i7hyv9v said:
Purpleibby":2i7hyv9v said:
Goat":2i7hyv9v said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
Thats the beauty of the Intellifex though. You dont need a mixer for it to sound great. One of the main reasons for using mixers is to preserve the dry tone. That was the premise for them back in the day. A LOT of the earlier units did not have an analog path and the core tone was terrible. Units like the Gmajor and similar all in one units are really designed for series. Thats not to say you cant run in parallel, but in doing so a lot of the effects cant be used..ie. compressor,eq, gates..etc.


True, however; the Intelliverb doesn't even come close to the tone, and depth/lushness of the Lexicon. That said, I hate the MPX-1 compared to the PCM 80 and PCM 81. Programming it isn't exactly user friendly, vs the Intelliverb-- That's certain. Definitely considerations with both the MPX-1 and the Intelliverb

Hows it going Zach? Long time!! I am only speaking about the Intellifex as I never owned the Verb. You really cant compare any Rocktron piece to the older PCMS imo but when the Intellifex came out it was in the same range as the LXP 15. Without a mixer the Rocktron just sounded much better. As far as the PCMS, I have 2 42s, a 70 and an 81. I honestly dig the 70 over the 81 but I cant quite tell ya why. YOU of all people im sure get that! :lol: :LOL: I have picked up so many pieces since Huge Rack days I have 3 separate 16 space racks... Still no H8000 though. But I am also hanging to my Ampex MM1000 machine so..
Old habits man... :yes:
 
romanianreaper":1kojnabr said:
Zachman":1kojnabr said:
I don't remember, but did I have this (Cameron Atomica) yet? I LOVE this thing






Sick!!! :) I think you were using Carlos' Cameron Jose Mod. This was 09' or maybe 10'. It's funny because I remember I came to the shop the week you joined that Journey tribute band and you were learning some of the songs. Man the three of us used to just talk about tones, gear, etc. Good memories!

WOW... that was '09
11 years already. Unreal
 
phil b":sy0jdu5n said:
Zachman":sy0jdu5n said:
phil b":sy0jdu5n said:
Purpleibby":sy0jdu5n said:
Goat":sy0jdu5n said:
Purpleibby":sy0jdu5n said:
Goat":sy0jdu5n said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
Thats the beauty of the Intellifex though. You dont need a mixer for it to sound great. One of the main reasons for using mixers is to preserve the dry tone. That was the premise for them back in the day. A LOT of the earlier units did not have an analog path and the core tone was terrible. Units like the Gmajor and similar all in one units are really designed for series. Thats not to say you cant run in parallel, but in doing so a lot of the effects cant be used..ie. compressor,eq, gates..etc.


True, however; the Intelliverb doesn't even come close to the tone, and depth/lushness of the Lexicon. That said, I hate the MPX-1 compared to the PCM 80 and PCM 81. Programming it isn't exactly user friendly, vs the Intelliverb-- That's certain. Definitely considerations with both the MPX-1 and the Intelliverb

Hows it going Zach? Long time!! I am only speaking about the Intellifex as I never owned the Verb. You really cant compare any Rocktron piece to the older PCMS imo but when the Intellifex came out it was in the same range as the LXP 15. Without a mixer the Rocktron just sounded much better. As far as the PCMS, I have 2 42s, a 70 and an 81. I honestly dig the 70 over the 81 but I cant quite tell ya why. YOU of all people im sure get that! :lol: :LOL: I have picked up so many pieces since Huge Rack days I have 3 separate 16 space racks... Still no H8000 though. But I am also hanging to my Ampex MM1000 machine so..
Old habits man... :yes:

Aloha... Going ok, I suppose. Kinda stuck in limbo for now, but can't complain. I salute your taste in gear brother. Kindred spirit here.

I want to add the H9000, and a Boss SY1000 fun fun... Such gear whores we are. LOL

My bad... I was comparing the MPX w/ the PCM, not the Intelliverb, but Ya, Lexicon is top shelf for a REALLY Good Reason. For me the mixer's bigger feature is minimizing the load time glitch, without having to play w/ CC programming


Mentoneman (Pat) and I laugh, because I have my rig here at home, but tend to plug into a cheap SS Custom combo that I got for $20, just to noodle and practice.

In my older age, I look at it all as just tools in a toolbox, but count myself fortunate to own my preferred tools.
 
Zachman":132adh0w said:
phil b":132adh0w said:
Zachman":132adh0w said:
phil b":132adh0w said:
Purpleibby":132adh0w said:
Goat":132adh0w said:
Purpleibby":132adh0w said:
Goat":132adh0w said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
Thats the beauty of the Intellifex though. You dont need a mixer for it to sound great. One of the main reasons for using mixers is to preserve the dry tone. That was the premise for them back in the day. A LOT of the earlier units did not have an analog path and the core tone was terrible. Units like the Gmajor and similar all in one units are really designed for series. Thats not to say you cant run in parallel, but in doing so a lot of the effects cant be used..ie. compressor,eq, gates..etc.


True, however; the Intelliverb doesn't even come close to the tone, and depth/lushness of the Lexicon. That said, I hate the MPX-1 compared to the PCM 80 and PCM 81. Programming it isn't exactly user friendly, vs the Intelliverb-- That's certain. Definitely considerations with both the MPX-1 and the Intelliverb

Hows it going Zach? Long time!! I am only speaking about the Intellifex as I never owned the Verb. You really cant compare any Rocktron piece to the older PCMS imo but when the Intellifex came out it was in the same range as the LXP 15. Without a mixer the Rocktron just sounded much better. As far as the PCMS, I have 2 42s, a 70 and an 81. I honestly dig the 70 over the 81 but I cant quite tell ya why. YOU of all people im sure get that! :lol: :LOL: I have picked up so many pieces since Huge Rack days I have 3 separate 16 space racks... Still no H8000 though. But I am also hanging to my Ampex MM1000 machine so..
Old habits man... :yes:

Aloha... Going ok, I suppose. Kinda stuck in limbo for now, but can't complain. I salute your taste in gear brother. Kindred spirit here.

I want to add the H9000, and a Boss SY1000 fun fun... Such gear whores we are. LOL

My bad... I was comparing the MPX w/ the PCM, not the Intelliverb, but Ya, Lexicon is top shelf for a REALLY Good Reason. For me the mixer's bigger feature is minimizing the load time glitch, without having to play w/ CC programming


Mentoneman (Pat) and I laugh, because I have my rig here at home, but tend to plug into a cheap SS Custom combo that I got for $20, just to noodle and practice.

In my older age, I look at it all as just tools in a toolbox, but count myself fortunate to own my preferred tools.
I know whatcha mean. I have a 1x12 Katana that I thru an Altec in and a Yamaha THX battery op amp. Both fun amps to play and as grab N go in the backyard. I have quite a few rack pieces that I've retired over time but I know the second I finally sell something I'm going to need that piece for the perfect rig. ...Its a sickness for sure! :lol: :LOL:
 
phil b":13fy53i1 said:
Zachman":13fy53i1 said:
phil b":13fy53i1 said:
Zachman":13fy53i1 said:
phil b":13fy53i1 said:
Purpleibby":13fy53i1 said:
Goat":13fy53i1 said:
Purpleibby":13fy53i1 said:
Goat":13fy53i1 said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
Thats the beauty of the Intellifex though. You dont need a mixer for it to sound great. One of the main reasons for using mixers is to preserve the dry tone. That was the premise for them back in the day. A LOT of the earlier units did not have an analog path and the core tone was terrible. Units like the Gmajor and similar all in one units are really designed for series. Thats not to say you cant run in parallel, but in doing so a lot of the effects cant be used..ie. compressor,eq, gates..etc.


True, however; the Intelliverb doesn't even come close to the tone, and depth/lushness of the Lexicon. That said, I hate the MPX-1 compared to the PCM 80 and PCM 81. Programming it isn't exactly user friendly, vs the Intelliverb-- That's certain. Definitely considerations with both the MPX-1 and the Intelliverb

Hows it going Zach? Long time!! I am only speaking about the Intellifex as I never owned the Verb. You really cant compare any Rocktron piece to the older PCMS imo but when the Intellifex came out it was in the same range as the LXP 15. Without a mixer the Rocktron just sounded much better. As far as the PCMS, I have 2 42s, a 70 and an 81. I honestly dig the 70 over the 81 but I cant quite tell ya why. YOU of all people im sure get that! :lol: :LOL: I have picked up so many pieces since Huge Rack days I have 3 separate 16 space racks... Still no H8000 though. But I am also hanging to my Ampex MM1000 machine so..
Old habits man... :yes:

Aloha... Going ok, I suppose. Kinda stuck in limbo for now, but can't complain. I salute your taste in gear brother. Kindred spirit here.

I want to add the H9000, and a Boss SY1000 fun fun... Such gear whores we are. LOL

My bad... I was comparing the MPX w/ the PCM, not the Intelliverb, but Ya, Lexicon is top shelf for a REALLY Good Reason. For me the mixer's bigger feature is minimizing the load time glitch, without having to play w/ CC programming


Mentoneman (Pat) and I laugh, because I have my rig here at home, but tend to plug into a cheap SS Custom combo that I got for $20, just to noodle and practice.

In my older age, I look at it all as just tools in a toolbox, but count myself fortunate to own my preferred tools.
I know whatcha mean. I have a 1x12 Katana that I thru an Altec in and a Yamaha THX battery op amp. Both fun amps to play and as grab N go in the backyard. I have quite a few rack pieces that I've retired over time but I know the second I finally sell something I'm going to need that piece for the perfect rig. ...Its a sickness for sure! :lol: :LOL:

Yup... If I 'Need' or 'Want' that Hi-Fi thing, or a Lo-Fi thing I can do that, but if I'm playing for fun-- as opposed to a gig or project... I can have fun-- and still do-- playing my electrics unplugged, or thru 'pedestrian' gear, and I adjust my expectations accordingly, or I tend to hear what's missing, more than what's actually there as far as tone. LOL
 
Purpleibby":252a3wiu said:
Goat":252a3wiu said:
Purpleibby":252a3wiu said:
Goat":252a3wiu said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
The Intelliveb is great for constructing virtual room reverbs; better suited for film/sound production. For guitar reverb, PCM70 and/or Intellifex all the way. As a all-in-one guitar multi-effects device, the Intellifex is a superior. MPX-1... :jerkit: KORG made a wonderful digital rack delay and rack reverb as well.
 
Goat":7ij7ngth said:
Purpleibby":7ij7ngth said:
Goat":7ij7ngth said:
Purpleibby":7ij7ngth said:
Goat":7ij7ngth said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
The Intelliveb is great for constructing virtual room reverbs; better suited for film/sound production. For guitar reverb, PCM70 and/or Intellifex all the way. As a all-in-one guitar multi-effects device, the Intellifex is a superior. MPX-1... :jerkit:
You've never even had one. You didn't know wtf you were doing when you had an MPX-1....probably too busy doing what your too cute by half emoticon is doing. :lol: :LOL:
 
Purpleibby":wxiusiv1 said:
Goat":wxiusiv1 said:
Purpleibby":wxiusiv1 said:
Goat":wxiusiv1 said:
Purpleibby":wxiusiv1 said:
Goat":wxiusiv1 said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
The Intelliveb is great for constructing virtual room reverbs; better suited for film/sound production. For guitar reverb, PCM70 and/or Intellifex all the way. As a all-in-one guitar multi-effects device, the Intellifex is a superior. MPX-1... :jerkit:
You've never even had one. You didn't know wtf you were doing when you had an MPX-1....probably too busy doing what your too cute by half emoticon is doing. :lol: :LOL:
Anyone with an ear knows the MPX-1 is fucking dog. Underpowered - poorly implemented.
 
Goat":2n37dfah said:
Purpleibby":2n37dfah said:
Goat":2n37dfah said:
Purpleibby":2n37dfah said:
Goat":2n37dfah said:
Purpleibby":2n37dfah said:
Goat":2n37dfah said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
The Intelliveb is great for constructing virtual room reverbs; better suited for film/sound production. For guitar reverb, PCM70 and/or Intellifex all the way. As a all-in-one guitar multi-effects device, the Intellifex is a superior. MPX-1... :jerkit:
You've never even had one. You didn't know wtf you were doing when you had an MPX-1....probably too busy doing what your too cute by half emoticon is doing. :lol: :LOL:
Anyone with an ear knows the MPX-1 is fucking dog. Underpowered - poorly implemented.
I don't care what you believe, but I know this....since you've hatched on the forum...you're rude, inconsiderate and generally a self-absorbed dude who has a need to appear right all the time. Shape up.
 
Zachman":1ougf4ds said:
True, however; the Intelliverb doesn't even come close to the tone, and depth/lushness of the Lexicon.

Agreed that's my experience as well.

Zachman":1ougf4ds said:
That said, I hate the MPX-1 compared to the PCM 80 and PCM 81. Programming it isn't exactly user friendly, vs the Intelliverb-- That's certain. Definitely considerations with both the MPX-1 and the Intelliverb

I imagine coming from the PCMs programming the MPX-1 would be alien for sure....never really gave me any issues though, I just learned it. There's definitely some neat tricks in there that the MPX-1 has that only much more expensive units have and they can be had for a damn good deal! They're both fantastic units and I'd still have my Intelliverb if the damn dsp sockets weren't so fragile, it's definitely the flagship of the intelli line. The MPX-1 has been getting some new love on the Huge Racks group, it may have something to do with the awesome stuff Italo has programmed it which sound pretty fantastic if you haven't heard it(that guy can program!). I'm considering moving it over to my synth rack and putting my 2nd Eclipse into my guitar rack and having 2 Eclipses in the guitar rack but I like having a variety of character in there. Love the rig pics man, a damn 1210 and a TSC! As always, killer setup, thanks for sharing them! Seeing the Zack attack rack brings some HRI nostalgia for sure :thumbsup:

I recently redid my rack too with all of this covid shit going on:
49875028583_2d4435afe3_b.jpg
 
Purpleibby":3b2z6xry said:
Goat":3b2z6xry said:
Purpleibby":3b2z6xry said:
Goat":3b2z6xry said:
Purpleibby":3b2z6xry said:
Goat":3b2z6xry said:
Purpleibby":3b2z6xry said:
Goat":3b2z6xry said:
If you get an MPX, you will end-up selling it. It's not that great of a unit, even if you get later updated model. Sub-par effects, preset switching lag, intermittent rebooting... If you get the Lexicon switcher, plan on replacing every switch in the board. I've been there, and it's a PITA!

I don't get this obession with "transparent" guitar effects? The singular aspect that makes the EP1/2/3 tape echo, Roland tape echo, DM-2 delay, CE-1 chorus, Uni-Vibe, Leslie speaker cabinet, etc... sound so great, is the fact that they add a certain level of coloration. Lexicon knew this, which is why they designed the early units with coloration. Transparency (IMO) is best suited for vocals, and acoustic instrumentation.

If I may...
Per my experiance; those who began playing in the era of digital racks and effects loops exist in an alternate reality. Back in the day, building a "tone" was an additive/subtractive process, using a multitude of various devices. Robert Fripp, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Edward Van Halen, Randy Rhoads... were all pioneers of the process. Compare Alex Lifeson's 1st RUSH album tones to his later "rack" tones... Not even close!

Someone recently posted a clip of his band. To my ears, it sounded like every other band I've heard in the last 20 or so years. Not that it wasn't good... it just lacks originality. The "worship" bands all sound like U2! The most impressed I've been in a long time, is with the guy who plays guitar in Greta Van Fleet.


You couldn't be more wrong...the MPX-1 is an outstanding unit and has some very cool tricks up it's sleeve. You don't want any rack unit dubbed "transparent" or not run without a mixer that leaves your dry sound intact. There's no sub-par effects in the MPX-1....just don't go thinking it will do everything at once....but the pcms didn't do everything at once either. MPX-1 can be had for a great deal and you will have an awesome unit. Switching lag is not an indicator of a unit that has a bad sound, few if any of the great sounding fx boxes were instant. The MPX-1 is a killer effect unit, just wire it right and put it in a mixer(as you should ANY line level rack effects) and you'll have a great FX box.

http://www.italodeangelis.com/public/co ... ibrary.pdf
Scroll down for sound clips:
http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
I've had two of them. Early and updated model... The MPX-1 is a convoluted mess, IMO. Sterile effects, switching lag... Rocktron Intellifex, although transparent, blows the MPX out of the proverbial water. I'd rather have one great reverb/one great delay vs the plethora of **** stuffed into the MPX-1. Rocktron's 8 voice chorus alone blows-aways the entire MPX-1 ROM library. Lexicon PCM70 is another story... :yes:
Disagree, then you didn't know WTF you were doing...my MPX-1 replaced an intelliverb. Sorry but an intellifex doesn't even hold up next to an intelliverb or an MPX-1. You do NOT run an effects processor of any kind without a mixer, I don't care if it's an intellifex or anything. The intelli units are not bad units...but they don't hold up to the possibilities you can get out of an mpx-1....they just can't.
The Intelliveb is great for constructing virtual room reverbs; better suited for film/sound production. For guitar reverb, PCM70 and/or Intellifex all the way. As a all-in-one guitar multi-effects device, the Intellifex is a superior. MPX-1... :jerkit:
You've never even had one. You didn't know wtf you were doing when you had an MPX-1....probably too busy doing what your too cute by half emoticon is doing. :lol: :LOL:
Anyone with an ear knows the MPX-1 is fucking dog. Underpowered - poorly implemented.
I don't care what you believe, but I know this....since you've hatched on the forum...you're rude, inconsiderate and generally a self-absorbed dude who has a need to appear right all the time. Shape up.
Typical left-turd reply... Fuck-off, snowflake.
 
Goat":3uoeci0s said:
Purpleibby":3uoeci0s said:
I don't care what you believe, but I know this....since you've hatched on the forum...you're rude, inconsiderate and generally a self-absorbed dude who has a need to appear right all the time. Shape up.
Typical left-turd reply... Fuck-off, snowflake.

Wrong again, I'm lot left wing(far from it)...but I wont stoop to your level. I'm done with you, move on.
 
Purpleibby":3nc83pmo said:
Zachman":3nc83pmo said:
True, however; the Intelliverb doesn't even come close to the tone, and depth/lushness of the Lexicon.

Agreed that's my experience as well.

Zachman":3nc83pmo said:
That said, I hate the MPX-1 compared to the PCM 80 and PCM 81. Programming it isn't exactly user friendly, vs the Intelliverb-- That's certain. Definitely considerations with both the MPX-1 and the Intelliverb

I imagine coming from the PCMs programming the MPX-1 would be alien for sure....never really gave me any issues though, I just learned it. There's definitely some neat tricks in there that the MPX-1 has that only much more expensive units have and they can be had for a damn good deal! They're both fantastic units and I'd still have my Intelliverb if the damn dsp sockets weren't so fragile, it's definitely the flagship of the intelli line. The MPX-1 has been getting some new love on the Huge Racks group, it may have something to do with the awesome stuff Italo has programmed it which sound pretty fantastic if you haven't heard it(that guy can program!). I'm considering moving it over to my synth rack and putting my 2nd Eclipse into my guitar rack and having 2 Eclipses in the guitar rack but I like having a variety of character in there. Love the rig pics man, a damn 1210 and a TSC! As always, killer setup, thanks for sharing them! Seeing the Zack attack rack brings some HRI nostalgia for sure :thumbsup:

I recently redid my rack too with all of this covid shit going on:
49875028583_2d4435afe3_b.jpg


Ooh... Me Likey!!! I am just a gear geek at heart, and that isn't going to change.

Re: the MPX-1, I don't have a problem with programming them, I just meant compared to the Intelliverb it was a pain. ;) Sorry for causing the confusion... My bad... Benadryl makes me stupid, and my allergies have been driving me nuts lately

Funny huh, I've been using the same stuff (pretty much) since the 80's, and most of the stuff in my rig is discontinued, but the current rig is now 13 years old

One of these days I want to redo mine too w/ a Kriz Kraft Rack, and another few toys...
 
Purpleibby":2w6w7txa said:
Goat":2w6w7txa said:
Purpleibby":2w6w7txa said:
I don't care what you believe, but I know this....since you've hatched on the forum...you're rude, inconsiderate and generally a self-absorbed dude who has a need to appear right all the time. Shape up.
Typical left-turd reply... Fuck-off, snowflake.

Wrong again, I'm lot left wing(far from it)...but I wont stoop to your level. I'm done with you, move on.
You already stooped, hence my stoop. I just noticed your rig pic... Had I known you were using a closet of effects, I wouldn't have bothered with debating you. I really wanted the MPX-1 to work for me, but I could not get either of them to function in a satisfactory manner. Programming user presets was a beyond laborous. Doesn't matter, since I have no intention of going back to using rack gear. Obviously, you're playing large venues... otherwise, you wouldn't be sporting that much gear. If it works for you, cool.
 
Zachman":29jvpnea said:
Purpleibby":29jvpnea said:
Zachman":29jvpnea said:
True, however; the Intelliverb doesn't even come close to the tone, and depth/lushness of the Lexicon.

Agreed that's my experience as well.

Zachman":29jvpnea said:
That said, I hate the MPX-1 compared to the PCM 80 and PCM 81. Programming it isn't exactly user friendly, vs the Intelliverb-- That's certain. Definitely considerations with both the MPX-1 and the Intelliverb

I imagine coming from the PCMs programming the MPX-1 would be alien for sure....never really gave me any issues though, I just learned it. There's definitely some neat tricks in there that the MPX-1 has that only much more expensive units have and they can be had for a damn good deal! They're both fantastic units and I'd still have my Intelliverb if the damn dsp sockets weren't so fragile, it's definitely the flagship of the intelli line. The MPX-1 has been getting some new love on the Huge Racks group, it may have something to do with the awesome stuff Italo has programmed it which sound pretty fantastic if you haven't heard it(that guy can program!). I'm considering moving it over to my synth rack and putting my 2nd Eclipse into my guitar rack and having 2 Eclipses in the guitar rack but I like having a variety of character in there. Love the rig pics man, a damn 1210 and a TSC! As always, killer setup, thanks for sharing them! Seeing the Zack attack rack brings some HRI nostalgia for sure :thumbsup:

I recently redid my rack too with all of this covid shit going on:
49875028583_2d4435afe3_b.jpg


Ooh... Me Likey!!! I am just a gear geek at heart, and that isn't going to change.

Re: the MPX-1, I don't have a problem with programming them, I just meant compared to the Intelliverb it was a pain. ;) Sorry for causing the confusion... My bad... Benadryl makes me stupid, and my allergies have been driving me nuts lately

Funny huh, I've been using the same stuff (pretty much) since the 80's, and most of the stuff in my rig is discontinued, but the current rig is now 13 years old

One of these days I want to redo mine too w/ a Kriz Kraft Rack, and another few toys...

Thanks! Right on, same here man :thumbsup: Man your fridge rack/rig is awesome with nods to the classics but some modern as well, all the heavy hitters in there...I'd be happy lol but I feel ya, building these things is fun :lol: :LOL: ! I agree I like rolling my own patches too but man Italo definitely has some skills for sure. I remember you had that Marshall power amp sitting on top of your rack(for stereo wet cabs?), I don't remember which one it was....My next step I'm trying is to move to w/d/w so I'm exploring the option of getting a tube power amp from the amp line out to the effects, or doing the line out box/post power amp thing with an SS power amp....I originally planned to do the line out box/ss power amp method but now I've kinda reconsidered doing the tube power amp thing because it will be a little easier in my current configuration. Still trying to figure out the route I'm going to take.

It's kind of difficult to choose because I don't want a different tube type from the EL34 style I have in the amp/dry center and there's fewer EL34 power amps out there...I wonder if I'm worrying too much about the tube mismatch and I should just get a mesa 50/50(price is right and it's a good PA) or get the vht 2502 with EL34s but it's so much more coin(wish I hadn't sold my old 2:90)....Thinking of that Marshall power amp you got makes me wonder what it has and if it's has different tubes from your dry amps and how it's working out for you. Again, cool to see some fellow HRI travelers. Later man!

http://www.italodeangelis.com/it/eventi ... -MPX-1.asp
 
Purpleibby":144c74ju said:
I recently redid my rack too with all of this covid shit going on:
49875028583_2d4435afe3_b.jpg
Which Eventide is that and are you using that Roland for reverbs and Lexicon for delays?
 
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