Let's talk about Pinch Harmonics :D Diezel VH2

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Simon Dorn said:
I just let all my crappy playing in the clip, but still...Here we go:


Feel free to chime in. Clips are welcome. The thing is...you know: THE Thing. They all pinch, it's just so that some amps don't do it in a natural and pleasant way.
Maybe some have a different vision of Pinch Harmonics...I don't know. For me they are important.
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Harmonics are more technique than anything, but I do get what you're saying. Is the preamp tubes all JJ? Especially if in V1, they sound sterile. Livelier tubes certainly make a difference.
 
Smash said:
It doesnt even get close to sounding like you are struggling to get pinch harmonics. If you dont like the tone, nbd.

I have played amps that had great tone but are noisy. I have played quiet amps that sounded grating. I have played amps that gave great tone but have shit palm mutes and the opposite. But goddamn pinch harmonic tone? That is a new one. Your clip in the other thread was solid. But I cant sympathize with your issue.
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For me it's a Dealbreaker.
 
napalmdeath said:
Harmonics are more technique than anything, but I do get what you're saying. Is the preamp tubes all JJ? Especially if in V1, they sound sterile. Livelier tubes certainly make a difference.
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I know.
The amp is probably just a bit too compressed in the highs. I won't bother with it, but send it back.
 
Simon Dorn said:
I know.
The amp is probably just a bit too compressed in the highs. I won't bother with it, but send it back.
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I'd roll some tubes first.. Many amps come biased cold, and have the cheapest possible tubes. If it's all JJ in the preamp, I'd atleast throw something better in V1.
 
napalmdeath said:
I'd roll some tubes first.. Many amps come biased cold, and have the cheapest possible tubes. If it's all JJ in the preamp, I'd atleast throw something better in V1.
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Thanks for the tip, but i don't think that would change the issue. I will simply stuck to my 2203 with all it's rough edges until the next GAS-Attack.
Here's me doing the Pinch Harmonics with a Hughes and Kettner Solid State Amp.
I played the clean channel with an Ibanez Smash Box on the European-Tour 2007.
@Techdeth "It's the Player - Not the Amp. Learn how the play the Pinch Harmonics on an Accoustic [insert dumb-ass accent]"
I kept my Fingers crossed for you regarding your Larry, but now i think you couldn't appreciate it anyway- even if it's only half as good as people say - which i doubt- if it ever arrives. Rant is finished.
But i'm still looking forward to hearing some Clips. :D
 
Simon Dorn said:
I can do pinch harmonics on an accoustic guitar. That's not the point. It gets annoying...
So what's your opinion on the VH2 "pinches"?
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I thought it was really easy . They sound great . Especially on the low strings . I really like what they did to the gain to modernize it
 
Techdeth said:
I thought it was really easy . They sound great . Especially on the low strings . I really like what they did to the gain to modernize it
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Damn it. I need to revisit the fucker. Go ahead and bring some amps over
 
You should've gotten the VH3, everyone knows they do pinch harmonics way easier.
 
Simon Dorn said:
Thanks for the tip, but i don't think that would change the issue. I will simply stuck to my 2203 with all it's rough edges until the next GAS-Attack.
Here's me doing the Pinch Harmonics with a Hughes and Kettner Solid State Amp.
I played the clean channel with an Ibanez Smash Box on the European-Tour 2007.
@Techdeth "It's the Player - Not the Amp. Learn how the play the Pinch Harmonics on an Accoustic [insert dumb-ass accent]"
I kept my Fingers crossed for you regarding your Larry, but now i think you couldn't appreciate it anyway- even if it's only half as good as people say - which i doubt- if it ever arrives. Rant is finished.
But i'm still looking forward to hearing some Clips. :D
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The video looks like you guys were killing it, but a bit hard to hear much besides the squealies. That said, you should grow some thicker skin and try not to be a dick. Techdeth is pretty cool and no need for you to get mad at people trying to help, even if it isnt needed. You are a good player, and if you dont like the pinch harmonics on the vh2 burn the fucker to the ground and get a fucking lenz. Lol. Then bring it over to my house so i can play it too
 
Smash said:
The video looks like you guys were killing it, but a bit hard to hear much besides the squealies. That said, you should grow some thicker skin and try not to be a dick. Techdeth is pretty cool and no need for you to get mad at people trying to help, even if it isnt needed. You are a good player, and if you dont like the pinch harmonics on the vh2 burn the fucker to the ground and get a fucking lenz. Lol. Then bring it over to my house so i can play it too
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The Clip sucks. I just remembered the squeals. :D I don't know how it could be of help, when he basically said i'm too dumb to play pinch harmonics?
How could one take this not as offense?
I had an eye on Lenz' Amps, but i skip it for now. :D
Maybe i should go back to the beginning: Marshall 1959 SLP and a Boss DS-1 :D

Maybe i shouldn't have asked...as i already knew it anyway. I just wanted to give the amp a chance.
But i also wonder why the pinch harmonic quality of an amp is of such low interest for some. They seem to just don't care.
Anyway...
 
Techdeth said:
I thought it was really easy . They sound great . Especially on the low strings . I really like what they did to the gain to modernize it
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I think they suck. Big time. They sound crippled and broken.
 
Simon Dorn said:
The Clip sucks. I just remembered the squeals. :D I don't know how it could be of help, when he basically said i'm too dumb to play pinch harmonics?
How could one take this not as offense?
I had an eye on Lenz' Amps, but i skip it for now. :D
Maybe i should go back to the beginning: Marshall 1959 SLP and a Boss DS-1 :D

Maybe i shouldn't have asked...as i already knew it anyway. I just wanted to give the amp a chance.
But i also wonder why the pinch harmonic quality of an amp is of such low interest for some. They seem to just don't care.
Anyway...
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I think you're taking people too seriously. You're obviously a good player, most players would be perfectly happy with what you are getting out of it.

It's also probably not huge interest, because it takes a lot to write songs with tasteful use of that technique.
 
Simon Dorn said:
The Clip sucks. I just remembered the squeals. :D I don't know how it could be of help, when he basically said i'm too dumb to play pinch harmonics?
How could one take this not as offense?
I had an eye on Lenz' Amps, but i skip it for now. :D
Maybe i should go back to the beginning: Marshall 1959 SLP and a Boss DS-1 :D

Maybe i shouldn't have asked...as i already knew it anyway. I just wanted to give the amp a chance.
But i also wonder why the pinch harmonic quality of an amp is of such low interest for some. They seem to just don't care.
Anyway...
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Lol. I get it. One could infer he was insulting you. I just know the guy, and he has insulted one person the whole time i have talked to him. And even then, it was tasteful. Mostly, he is just trying to help anyone he can, and he is a tone whore just like the rest of us.

Yeah...you are getting fucking nasty tones out of the marshall. No reason not to sd-1 that shit.
 
Erock said:
I think you're taking people too seriously. You're obviously a good player, most players would be perfectly happy with what you are getting out of it.

It's also probably not huge interest, because it takes a lot to write songs with tasteful use of that technique.
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Thanks. I don't consider myself a good Player.
Thanks for your perspective. I haven't thought of that.
 
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Smash said:
Lol. I get it. One could infer he was insulting you. I just know the guy, and he has insulted one person the whole time i have talked to him. And even then, it was tasteful. Mostly, he is just trying to help anyone he can, and he is a tone whore just like the rest of us.

Yeah...you are getting fucking nasty tones out of the marshall. No reason not to sd-1 that shit.
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Thanks! (y) We are talking about a third person, but he can chime in, if he wants. :D
 
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