Lets talk Marshall's JMP versus SLP ect

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Those upper mids sound like they're in the ballpark. Got a clip without the hard-panned delay?
It's double-tracked just for fun. If you listen to one speaker only you'll hear what you seek.

I should say I wasn't aiming for Pyromania specifically, I just thought that riff sounded cool with the tone I had dialled up at the time.
 
A lot of classic Priest is not a 2203/2204, but Rangemaster into a NMV Marshall.
Plus huge custom pedalboards filled with an assortment of Pete Cornish OD, distortion, fuzz units, and MXR pedals with Cornish buffers hardwired between every single one.
 
This.

But, I'd add that if you get a Superlead, grab a good distortion pedal like a BE OD OR in my case, have Griff build you a clone. The coolest thing other than the tone, is the VOL on the Distortion pedal acts as a Master Vol so you can crank the amp up high, hit the pedal and attenuate the vol down to where you like it. This way you can also get unity vol between the amp with the pedal off, for a dirty clean AND hit the pedal for your gain with no volume change.

When I got my 72, it made a nice 1983 2203 sound small...and the 2203 had new ARS caps, and healthy GE 6550s.
I must’ve tried over 20 pedals now with my 72, including a bunch of distortion pedals and while they did attenuate like that, I found the tone itself for my taste lacking/compromised vs on its own at volume and often times also with that voicing clash I didn’t like (especially the Uzi one), but not a bad way to get the amp useable at more reasonable levels

It is bigger sounding than probably any 2203/4 I tried and even more so boosted (until reaching that volume threshold), but those amps also have some cool things IME to offer soundwise vs nvm Marshall’s. It would be awesome to have an amp with both qualities. I guess the closest middle ground I heard was that modded 50w 72. I want that amp lol
 
If money isn't an issue, you need 50 and 100w versions of NMV and MV Marshalls. I have them all and it's a first world problem, but I love walking into my man cave and a/b'ing a few and deciding which one will go to the next gig.
Yeah it seems like all 4 can bring something different and worthwhile to the table. I'd like to have a late '60's or early '70's 502 NMV as some point, it's just gotten expensive
 
I want to love Plexi’s, but I always end up preferring the MV models. If you’re going NMV, a power station is a must IMO so just add in $800 to that option.
 
I must’ve tried over 20 pedals now with my 72, including a bunch of distortion pedals and while they did attenuate like that, I found the tone itself for my taste lacking/compromised vs on its own at volume and often times also with that voicing clash I didn’t like (especially the Uzi one), but not a bad way to get the amp useable at more reasonable levels

It is bigger sounding than probably any 2203/4 I tried and even more so boosted (until reaching that volume threshold), but those amps also have some cool things IME to offer soundwise vs nvm Marshall’s. It would be awesome to have an amp with both qualities. I guess the closest middle ground I heard was that modded 50w 72. I want that amp lol
To be sure, the Uzi is cool but HAD to be combined with the OD1X which added that upper mid/high 'grind' that resembles a Cameron mod. On its own, the Uzi is flat sounding. Griff built me a BE OD clone that sounds MUCH better, and by itself does the job and still adds that nice upper mid/top end.
Still might not be your thing since it's a modern pedal but I really like it. It thumps so hard, that the 'FrankenMarshall' got left in the dust when I pushed the 72 hard.
 
I want to love Plexi’s, but I always end up preferring the MV models. If you’re going NMV, a power station is a must IMO so just add in $800 to that option.
Did you have any NMV Marshall's from 1972 or earlier? Maybe the MV ones are still more your thing, in some ways they work better for me too, but the NMV Marshall's I've had or tried from that time can be very impressive
 
To be sure, the Uzi is cool but HAD to be combined with the OD1X which added that upper mid/high 'grind' that resembles a Cameron mod. On its own, the Uzi is flat sounding. Griff built me a BE OD clone that sounds MUCH better, and by itself does the job and still adds that nice upper mid/top end.
Still might not be your thing since it's a modern pedal but I really like it. It thumps so hard, that the 'FrankenMarshall' got left in the dust when I pushed the 72 hard.
I used my klon as well as other od pedals (some of which also have good presence in that area) with the Uzi I had. I didn't care the OD1X when I had one. Surprisingly the boost I liked best with my 72 is my Thorpy Team Medic (even over my real klon). It is a modern pedal technically, but among the few needles in the haystack of modern pedals I've played that to me is still very organic and raw sounding (none of that plastic-y, filtered, junky sound), but it's also super noisy with it even with my gate. Always trade off it seems lol, but it's an awesome sounding pedal. My 2nd favorite sounding boost I've had minus the noisiness
 
For Def Lep and Back in Black you don’t need any boosts. Just turn em up, doesn’t even matter if it is a 03 or 59. If you have the touch they will all do that. As long as It is a “good”one…
 
Did you have any NMV Marshall's from 1972 or earlier? Maybe the MV ones are still more your thing, in some ways they work better for me too, but the NMV Marshall's I've had or tried from that time can be very impressive
Borrowing a friends 72 100 watter currently. I enjoy it and really I’ve enjoyed all the different ones I’ve tried, but not really for anything beyond classic 70s/early 80s tones. The MV models just hold together better for what I like. I think my favorite NMV amp was a Metropoulos jtm45. That thing was amazing for cleans up to zeppelin and just had so much soul to it. I reach out to the current owner every year or so hoping I can get it back….no luck yet
 
Dave Friedman said 2203

Why 2203 versus 2204 ? I was leaning toward the 50w but Dave Friedman replied to my e-mail that the 03 is more squishy and the 2204 is tighter

He said the 2203 generally has a low voltage power transformer and apparently the 2204 does not. Anyhow likely more similarities than differences
Hmm I have both a 2203 and 2204 and I find the 2204 waaaay squishier and the 2203 stays tight pretty much until it’s peeling paint. I put Metro loops in both, best decision ever since I like delay and volume boosts for solos.
 
So you just crank 100 watt plexis into overdrive and stand there in the room playing guitar?
Yes. If you have wood floors and pier and beam construction you just turned your house into a giant acoustic guitar using a Marshall. I have a Twin now and I crank that into overdrive at home and at gigs whenever I can which lately is most of my gigs since I am not heavily booked during winter.
 
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