Looks like Adam Jones is using a new amp and cab...

[Jeremy]

It's really hard to tell anything from those 2 vids but I did see on Rivera's site yesterday this: http://www.rivera.com/news.php?subactio ... om=&ucat=&
That was posted on the 22nd, so maybe Rivera saw that Adam was playing the Mesa 2x15, saw an opportunity and sent him out with a LB312 instead.

 

[D-Rock]

Didn't he say he used a couple Peavey amps as well as his normal rig when they recorded 10,000 Days?

Yep. I have a guitar mag floating around somewhere & he mentions this.

All he says is "and some Peavey amp that Joe brought in"
Is Joe his amp tech? Or the producer/engineer for that album(?)

The producer.

Any guess on what Peavey it might have been?

 

[FourT6and2]

It's really hard to tell anything from those 2 vids but I did see on Rivera's site yesterday this: http://www.rivera.com/news.php?subactio ... om=&ucat=&
That was posted on the 22nd, so maybe Rivera saw that Adam was playing the Mesa 2x15, saw an opportunity and sent him out with a LB312 instead.

No. Adam does not use the Mesa 2x15 for anything. What's with all this speculation? The head on top of the 2x15 is his SPARE VH4. It's not used. It's just for backup. Something most likely happened to his Mesa 4x12 and they threw the 2x15 in there "just in case." Who the hell knows.

So strange, there's a new cab on stage (not even being used) and people go crazy thinking he's running some new amp or new setup or there's a Peavy deal in the works. Jesus Fucking Christ. Lighten up, people.

Didn't he say he used a couple Peavey amps as well as his normal rig when they recorded 10,000 Days?

Yep. I have a guitar mag floating around somewhere & he mentions this.

All he says is "and some Peavey amp that Joe brought in"
Is Joe his amp tech? Or the producer/engineer for that album(?)

The producer.

Any guess on what Peavey it might have been?

No clue. It's not like it was part of the main sound on the album. The guy uses a Marshall and a VH4 for the most part. All those other amps were just used to broaden the tonal spectrum.

 

[Flump]

I'd be willing to try and tackle some Adam Jones tonez on the Axe-fx tonight after work.

As mentioned he used a bunch of stuff on 10,000 days, but The Pot seems like its 90% VH4, and also has some quick and easy riffs so I'll give that a shot. i'll have to find a backing track for it.

 

[FourT6and2]

I'd be willing to try and tackle some Adam Jones tonez on the Axe-fx tonight after work.

As mentioned he used a bunch of stuff on 10,000 days, but The Pot seems like its 90% VH4, and also has some quick and easy riffs so I'll give that a shot. i'll have to find a backing track for it.

There's nothing mystical about his sound. Cranked Superbass/Superlead for the earlier stuff, throw in a high-gain head like a Rectifier or VH4 for the post Aenima stuff. But the Marshall's the foundation of his sound. But, I'd love to hear what you come up with.

 

[Flump]

I'd be willing to try and tackle some Adam Jones tonez on the Axe-fx tonight after work.

As mentioned he used a bunch of stuff on 10,000 days, but The Pot seems like its 90% VH4, and also has some quick and easy riffs so I'll give that a shot. i'll have to find a backing track for it.

There's nothing mystical about his sound. Cranked Superbass/Superlead for the earlier stuff, throw in a high-gain head like a Rectifier or VH4 for the post Aenima stuff. But the Marshall's the foundation of his sound. But, I'd love to hear what you come up with.

A guy on the fractal forum did a pretty good job combining the VH4 and "brown" amps. I don't think Adam's superbass has quite the amount of distortion that the Brown model on the axe does so it was a little too gainy/not defined, but still pretty damn good.

 

[FourT6and2]

I'd be willing to try and tackle some Adam Jones tonez on the Axe-fx tonight after work.

As mentioned he used a bunch of stuff on 10,000 days, but The Pot seems like its 90% VH4, and also has some quick and easy riffs so I'll give that a shot. i'll have to find a backing track for it.

There's nothing mystical about his sound. Cranked Superbass/Superlead for the earlier stuff, throw in a high-gain head like a Rectifier or VH4 for the post Aenima stuff. But the Marshall's the foundation of his sound. But, I'd love to hear what you come up with.

A guy on the fractal forum did a pretty good job combining the VH4 and "brown" amps. I don't think Adam's superbass has quite the amount of distortion that the Brown model on the axe does so it was a little too gainy.

Have you listened to the clips on Youtube from '92 at JC Dobbs? Just type in Tool JC Dobbs into the Youtube search bar and you'll see some awesome quality clips with just the Marshall. Might help you get that sound.

 

[CaseyCor]

I'd be willing to try and tackle some Adam Jones tonez on the Axe-fx tonight after work.

As mentioned he used a bunch of stuff on 10,000 days, but The Pot seems like its 90% VH4, and also has some quick and easy riffs so I'll give that a shot. i'll have to find a backing track for it.

If the Axe-FX can nail Adam's tone on Aenima/Laturalus, along with everything else I already know it does, then it's my next purchase.

I'd love to hear it copping Aenima era tones!

 

[EXPcustom]

It's really hard to tell anything from those 2 vids but I did see on Rivera's site yesterday this: http://www.rivera.com/news.php?subactio ... om=&ucat=&
That was posted on the 22nd, so maybe Rivera saw that Adam was playing the Mesa 2x15, saw an opportunity and sent him out with a LB312 instead.

No. Adam does not use the Mesa 2x15 for anything. What's with all this speculation? The head on top of the 2x15 is his SPARE VH4. It's not used. It's just for backup. Something most likely happened to his Mesa 4x12 and they threw the 2x15 in there "just in case." Who the hell knows.

So strange, there's a new cab on stage (not even being used) and people go crazy thinking he's running some new amp or new setup or there's a Peavy deal in the works. Jesus Fucking Christ. Lighten up, people.

He can hook up more than one cab to a head you know.

 

[CaseyCor]

It's really hard to tell anything from those 2 vids but I did see on Rivera's site yesterday this: http://www.rivera.com/news.php?subactio ... om=&ucat=&
That was posted on the 22nd, so maybe Rivera saw that Adam was playing the Mesa 2x15, saw an opportunity and sent him out with a LB312 instead.

No. Adam does not use the Mesa 2x15 for anything. What's with all this speculation? The head on top of the 2x15 is his SPARE VH4. It's not used. It's just for backup. Something most likely happened to his Mesa 4x12 and they threw the 2x15 in there "just in case." Who the hell knows.

So strange, there's a new cab on stage (not even being used) and people go crazy thinking he's running some new amp or new setup or there's a Peavy deal in the works. Jesus Fucking Christ. Lighten up, people.

He can hook up more than one cab to a head you know.

That's what I'm thinking. A little defensive, mate. All it well

 

[Ancient Alien]

Does it really even matter?
It's not like he has a mind blowing tone.
Sounds like a high gain amp being played like a high gain amp should be.
Who really cares what the hell he uses.
I'm sure if he recorded the CD's with a POD, it would still sound like Tool.
Tool to me is about the attitude and space they use.
Either way, Adam sounds like Adam.

 

[stephen sawall]

Here is my guess on the Peavey used ....

It was called the Mississippi Marshall in the articles around that time. Peavey is in Mississippi. The old Butchers are the same schematic as the JCM800.

I also think I saw he was using a SUNN Model T .... one of the old ones. Not the ones that were made by Fender. I had one for a few years. The thing had monster bass .... it was a great amp.

 

[D-Rock]

I'm sure if he recorded the CD's with a POD, it would still sound like Tool.

+1. His hands and fingers play the biggest part in his tone.

Mentioning the Butcher, I really want to try the new version.
I wish they would release it already.

 

[stephen sawall]

"FortinAmps
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Originally Posted by Cropduster
I've heard this many times and wondered if anyone actually tried one out and found out that it was true. I've heard them described as the Mississippi Marshall.

Circuit wise, yes."
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I would trust Mikes word on it.

I have seen these amps go for around $100/$250 lots of times. A friend of mine had one back in the day ..... it was not bad at all for that price.

I also asked Mike Fortin if he would modify one and he said the transformer was different enough that he would not do it.

Maybe the new Butcher is the new Tool amp ? I love spreading misinformation .....

 

[ericsabbath]

Does it really even matter?
It's not like he has a mind blowing tone.
Sounds like a high gain amp being played like a high gain amp should be.
Who really cares what the hell he uses.
I'm sure if he recorded the CD's with a POD, it would still sound like Tool.
Tool to me is about the attitude and space they use.
Either way, Adam sounds like Adam.

10,000 Days tone is magnific
the others are meh

 

[stephen sawall]

Features on the new Butcher ....

Two independent channels, Clean and Crunch
100 watts into 16, 8 or 4 ohms
Half-power switch drops the output to 50 watts
4 x EL34 power amp tubes
5 x 12AX7 preamp tubes
Three-band EQ on each channel
Global Presence
Two Master Volume controls
Global Master Volume Boost with switch and level control
Six-way Attack control on Crunch channel
Pre-gain Boost switch on both channels
Built-in MSDI microphone-simulated direct XLR output
Line out with level control
Active effects loop with send and return level control
Tube bias adjustments on back panel
Four-button footswitch included
Made in the U.S.A.

"Crunch channel also has a six-way attack selector that adjusts the low-end attack of the amplifier—a handy feature that helps match the head to various speaker enclosures."

I am not much into Peavey stuff .... but this might be cool. I read

 

[petejt]

Didn't Adam use a Recto onstage with his Marshall Superbass back in 1994?

I've got a video somewhere where I'm sure you can see it quite clearly. It might still be on YouTube somewhere- a live gig where Maynard was bleating like a sheep at the audience or something.

 

[Motorpud]

Does it really even matter?
It's not like he has a mind blowing tone.
Sounds like a high gain amp being played like a high gain amp should be.
Who really cares what the hell he uses.
I'm sure if he recorded the CD's with a POD, it would still sound like Tool.
Tool to me is about the attitude and space they use.
Either way, Adam sounds like Adam.

10,000 Days tone is magnific
the others are meh

Lateralus blows away 10,000 days IMO

 

[stephen sawall]

Didn't Adam use a Recto onstage with his Marshall Superbass back in 1994?

I've got a video somewhere where I'm sure you can see it quite clearly. It might still be on YouTube somewhere- a live gig where Maynard was bleating like a sheep at the audience or something.

Yes he did .... I have seen every tour since the first EP. OGT

It was Marshall .... then Marshall / Mesa ..... then Marshall / Mesa / Diezel .... and for the last several years Marshall / Diezel.

 

[CaseyCor]

Does it really even matter?
It's not like he has a mind blowing tone.
Sounds like a high gain amp being played like a high gain amp should be.
Who really cares what the hell he uses.
I'm sure if he recorded the CD's with a POD, it would still sound like Tool.
Tool to me is about the attitude and space they use.
Either way, Adam sounds like Adam.

10,000 Days tone is magnific
the others are meh

Lateralus blows away 10,000 days IMO

Fuck yeah it does