Mark IIC+ Reissue with Ola

Well now.....Ola dialed it in within 59 seconds............Do you mean to tell me the Mesa guys didn't think people wanted to hear the amp chug with alot of gain and reproduce it's classic recorded tones of Metallica and Dream Theater????????? Mesa's whole release approach just defies logic....:doh::confused:
 
In all it's grainy IR shitty glory.

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this vid again makes me question where Ola got the king of "making everything sound the same" moniker?? this sounds exactly like what i hear sitting next to mine making the clips i did for you guys a couple days ago, which i figured would be the case when his vid came. i have a couple of those TLM102's, i havent used them on guitars in a while as i use them as my overheads which i dont touch much, next clip maybe ill pull them down

I think people who say that about Ola don't understand where tone comes from. When you use sufficiently high gain like Ola does most of the time, the cab is responsible for the vast majority of what most people hear. The amp mostly determines tightness, and character of the harmonics and compression, but the cab determines most of the the overall EQ signature, which is what most people hear first and most obviously.

Ola tends to stick with a small number of cabs, namely that great sounding Mesa OS 4x12 cab of his, so a lot of his tones get filtered through that and it's fairly recognizable.

The rest of it is just people who don't actually know how interchangeable a lot of amps really are in a high gain rig so they just think "Ola always sounds the same" and not "the amp is just less influential than you'd think when you have the same player, pickups, cabs, and mic in the mix" which is a lot closer to the truth.
 
Mesa really should have led with this video, just buy it from Ola and re-release it as the launch.

That's what I came in to say.

Think of how much differently this would have gone if they would have let Ola do THIS first and then let it sit and simmer for 3 or 4 days and let everyone else do their lame ass attempts post Ola -- (no offence BTW to some of our regulars that did good justice for all) :yes:
 
I think people who say that about Ola don't understand where tone comes from. When you use sufficiently high gain like Ola does most of the time, the cab is responsible for the vast majority of what most people hear. The amp mostly determines tightness, and character of the harmonics and compression, but the cab determines most of the the overall EQ signature, which is what most people hear first and most obviously.

Ola tends to stick with a small number of cabs, namely that great sounding Mesa OS 4x12 cab of his, so a lot of his tones get filtered through that and it's fairly recognizable.

The rest of it is just people who don't actually know how interchangeable a lot of amps really are in a high gain rig so they just think "Ola always sounds the same" and not "the amp is just less influential than you'd think when you have the same player, pickups, cabs, and mic in the mix" which is a lot closer to the truth.


A lot of the criticism i see comes from other recording guys who are on my "tone trust" list who certainly know whats going on, which is why i question what they are hearing. Ola is my dude based on how close we sound playing the same gear, so if guys i trust think that he makes everything sound the same, that means that most all my stuff sounds the same as well, and i just dont think thats the case. maybe it is though :dunno:
 
One of Ola's favourite amps ever is the Engl Savage 60 mkI (which Engl at some point sent him for free again) and he did multiple videos about it (in the room, rig of the day, etc.), so he's good in my book. (y)
That is one amp I'm never getting rid of (again).

Don't care for the lower tuned, warbly, gurgly tones tho'. :whistle:
 
A lot of the criticism i see comes from other recording guys who are on my "tone trust" list who certainly know whats going on, which is why i question what they are hearing. Ola is my dude based on how close we sound playing the same gear, so if guys i trust think that he makes everything sound the same, that means that most all my stuff sounds the same as well, and i just dont think thats the case. maybe it is though :dunno:
They may honestly bro :dunno:
But I love all of your clips/playing/mixing
Moreso than Ola. Huge props.

Post or PM 3 or 4 clips of yours that you feel are most drastically different. I'm not very good at guitar or recording but I can guarantee MINE all sound different :lol: and not in a good way
 
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I think people who say that about Ola don't understand where tone comes from. When you use sufficiently high gain like Ola does most of the time, the cab is responsible for the vast majority of what most people hear. The amp mostly determines tightness, and character of the harmonics and compression, but the cab determines most of the the overall EQ signature, which is what most people hear first and most obviously.

Ola tends to stick with a small number of cabs, namely that great sounding Mesa OS 4x12 cab of his, so a lot of his tones get filtered through that and it's fairly recognizable.

The rest of it is just people who don't actually know how interchangeable a lot of amps really are in a high gain rig so they just think "Ola always sounds the same" and not "the amp is just less influential than you'd think when you have the same player, pickups, cabs, and mic in the mix" which is a lot closer to the truth.

This is true - it's also why every clip I post people say "is that the dino?"

Because they apparently don't know how close micing high gain amps works
 
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