MESA/Boogie® Mark IIC+ full demo & overview ft. Doug West & Tommy Waugh

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Well for an amp to be reissued for a certain buyer they certainly missed the mark with this demo, unless the feel is 100% accurate I'd say they created an amp that's very limited compared to their current offerings. If the feel is there then it's game on I guess.
 
ZEN Amps said:
Very nicely shot video, with lots of angles and good lighting.

But it's almost impossible to fathom that this is the best heavy tone they could manage.

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You know what, I liked it that way. Once the YouTubers out there will get their hands on their own copy, we are going to be flooded with zillions of videos with the same chugging riffs in drop Z and with weird faces on their vignette.

At least Mesa showed the amp could be pretty versatile and cover a lot of types of sound.
 
when Gibson Inc. does a Mesa amp demo.

I'm not surprised at the result.

Gibson has a high probability of destroying Mesa, like they destroyed Steinberger guitars years ago. Steinberger could have been used to test their engineering and other advanced ideas such as robo-tuners vs experimenting with classic Gibson designs that many don't want modernized.
 
In the 80's there were more than Metallica and Whitesnake fans using this amp. IMO, it blows away the JP2C. The versatility alone.
I'm sure all the YT chug-meisters will have at it, but I heard a wide range of usability, from clean, blues, hard rock. That's what I remember about the amp in the 80's. It was good for a wide range of styles.
You CANNOT find most of those lower gain tones in the JP2C (owned one) and I like this better than my MK VII.
With all the incarnations of the 2C+, I always felt there was something missing without the Pull-Pots.
 
They’re catering to a boomer crowd that’s for sure. Metal heads will have to assess them on their own and through YouTube reviewers. In time that will happen.

I do agree at this price point versatility is important however none of the tones are going to be amazingly gig friendly as it’s a single channel amp with two voicings - that’s what the JP2C brings to the table that many forget.

I’m also in the camp that more switches and functions take away from the sound of the amp. An amp should just sound good and functions shouldn’t exist just to exist. In that regard they did it right and did their best. CTS pots are solid - they didn’t seemingly skimp on anything.
 
I always struggled with the first gain being common to both channels, to get a really good clean I had to have a coil tap on the neck pickup with the volume rolled back a bit and a Les Paul selector switch so when I switched to clean I always had to switch to the neck pickup at the same time. It was effective but annoying. Same thing when I switched to MK III’s (don’t know why I did that) but I did love that pure liquid lead tone that they got, nothing else touched that at the time.
As far as the “modded Marshall” tone that was between the 2, it sucked. It was thin and anemic sounding. You could EQ it to be much better, but then the clean and lead channels were not in the sweet spots. Everything was a balancing process in a live context doing lots of clean and dirty switching
But I’d still be willing to race test another one just to have that liquid lead tone!! 😂
 
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I'm happy with my 3-channel JP-2C; does all the Mesa / prog tones I want. I was always a Marshall user, and still am; my JP-2C is all the Mesa I need and want.

I think the IIC+ reissue is a money grab by Gibson...as they dilute and destroy Mesa
 
CarlF said:
In the 80's there were more than Metallica and Whitesnake fans using this amp. IMO, it blows away the JP2C. The versatility alone.
I'm sure all the YT chug-meisters will have at it, but I heard a wide range of usability, from clean, blues, hard rock. That's what I remember about the amp in the 80's. It was good for a wide range of styles.
You CANNOT find most of those lower gain tones in the JP2C (owned one) and I like this better than my MK VII.
With all the incarnations of the 2C+, I always felt there was something missing without the Pull-Pots.
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That might be because the JP2C gain channels have the lead drive internally set to 7 to 10 depending on the channel and the push/pull settings (at least according to the manual). Anyone wanting settings lower than that is out of luck.

I always hated that Mesa took away the lead drive control starting with the Mark V.
 
cardinal said:
That might be because the JP2C gain channels have the lead drive internally set to 7 to 10 depending on the channel and the push/pull settings (at least according to the manual). Anyone wanting settings lower than that is out of luck.

I always hated that Mesa took away the lead drive control starting with the Mark V.
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Wow I didn’t know that. Sounds like it would be an easy mod to do to bring it back. Now you have me thinking.
 
😂😂😂😂😂😂 god….you people kill me with this thing….

Anyways, I guess im in the minority, but seeing what Gibson is putting out these days, they are on fire. Go to the Gibson factory in Nashville, I think many of you would change your mind. Gibson is on fire right now I truly believe that. How that translates to them owning boogie, only time will tell, but as far as their guitars, personally I’ve never played better than what they are putting out these days.
 
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