Mesa going old skool

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dave74 said:
Didn't the OGs have EVM12L speakers? Were they the tops or bottoms in the old cabs, and what others speakers were in the OGs?
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Some did. Some didn't. I had 4 412s and 1 vertical 2x12. They all had Black Shadows up top and Vintage Black Shadows in the bottom/sealed portion. They sounded great with IIC+'s (and other Mark Series amps), but sounded like absolute ass with anything else. I ended up selling all of them one by one. I don't think I paid more than $600 for any of them, and one even came with a road case that it just lived in. $1700 is a rip off. Gibson can't help itself, but to reissue slop. No original ideas or innovations, just old bullshit.

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Proudly says the speakers are UK made, but nothing on the cab itself.
That usually means something...:unsure:
 
I had 5 loaded ones of these and the vertical 2 x 12. Those things fucked. But I didn’t pay more than 600 a cab even a couple of years ago. I still have one loaded with v30s
 
vultures said:
Some did. Some didn't. I had 4 412s and 1 vertical 2x12. They all had Black Shadows up top and Vintage Black Shadows in the bottom/sealed portion. They sounded great with IIC+'s (and other Mark Series amps), but sounded like absolute ass with anything else. I ended up selling all of them one by one. I don't think I paid more than $600 for any of them, and one even came with a road case that it just lived in. $1700 is a rip off. Gibson can't help itself, but to reissue slop. No original ideas or innovations, just old bullshit.

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c+addict said:
I paid $1600 total for these 4 cabs back in 2020.View attachment 397454
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What do I see in common between these two pics besides beautiful MESA amps?

Plush, luxurious silvery gray carpeting.
 
vultures said:
Some did. Some didn't. I had 4 412s and 1 vertical 2x12. They all had Black Shadows up top and Vintage Black Shadows in the bottom/sealed portion. They sounded great with IIC+'s (and other Mark Series amps), but sounded like absolute ass with anything else. I ended up selling all of them one by one. I don't think I paid more than $600 for any of them, and one even came with a road case that it just lived in. $1700 is a rip off. Gibson can't help itself, but to reissue slop. No original ideas or innovations, just old bullshit.

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Yeah, no one has been clamoring for these to come back.
 
The metal grill is pretty cool but I’ve never been a fan of open back anything. Wonder how they sound with a back panel installed on the open portion, I’m sure someone has done that in the past with the old ones.
 
mnemonic said:
The metal grill is pretty cool but I’ve never been a fan of open back anything. Wonder how they sound with a back panel installed on the open portion, I’m sure someone has done that in the past with the old ones.
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Like a pair of 212s stacked.
 
vultures said:
Some did. Some didn't. I had 4 412s and 1 vertical 2x12. They all had Black Shadows up top and Vintage Black Shadows in the bottom/sealed portion. They sounded great with IIC+'s (and other Mark Series amps), but sounded like absolute ass with anything else. I ended up selling all of them one by one. I don't think I paid more than $600 for any of them, and one even came with a road case that it just lived in. $1700 is a rip off. Gibson can't help itself, but to reissue slop. No original ideas or innovations, just old bullshit.

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It is really weird. They have seemingly bought Mesa to reissue nostalgia. Just like Gibson. The reason it’s extra sad is because Mesa have been a pioneering and constantly progressive company. Not this.
 
$1699?!?!?

That's crazy. People are not buying 4X12s any more. Gibson needs to read the room and do some market research.
 
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