John4021
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EXPcustom":2b8lkgrf said:Some of you guys need to twist a doobie.
EXPcustom":2b8lkgrf said:Some of you guys need to twist a doobie.
EXPcustom":lg2fjndb said:Some of you guys need to twist a doobie.
If not this ^, the thread certainly took an interesting turn.steve_k":1bgz2e1w said:This thread is fucked up.
You have a Turret board Cameron CCV or a modded Marshall?chumbucket":6uhg9irx said:sah5150":6uhg9irx said:No, you see, that is where you are wrong. You, the buyer, benefit from a less expensive, more consistent sounding, more easily maintainable and more available amplifier. Also, let's get real specific here - I am talking about complex, modern channel switchers like the CCV, not single channel amps that are reasonably cost effective to build hand-wired turret design. It is much easier to make the lead dress consistent on a single channel (although as many old Marshalls prove - not fool proof), and unless you are really stamping them out like Marshall, quick enough to build. Channel switchers, with loops, midi, etc are much too complex to build this way if there is reasonable demand. They are going to cost more because they take more time. Personally, I still would not shy away from a single channel PCB amp made with quality components and boards...chumbucket":6uhg9irx said:Steve, your argument about the advantages only benefit the builder in terms of build speed (and profits essentially).
I think your experiences with PCB amps have more to do with cheaper components and mass manufacturing than anything inherent in PCB design. I'll also say you have been lucky with your turret board Marshalls, as an absolutely common complaint is how different one old Marshall sounds from another. Components do not wear any differently on a PCB than on a turret board - that is common sense. There should be no reason a qualifed tech lifts a solder trace replacing a component or any other "weirdness".
Choose whatever works for you, but there is no reason to believe a well built, PCB designed amp using really good components like the CCV will not give you great tone and many years of trouble free service...
Steve
I see what you mean there Steve but I can't agree with you on the more easily maintainable part. A lot of amps with PC boards are a total bitch to work on. As someone else noted here that in their area, some techs won't even work on this stuff. I have that with 2 techs in my area. If you have a 5150, it ain't getting cracked open because they don't work on Peavey (and other blacklisted gear)(even though they were authorized service centers at one time). I don't have a need for a CCV because I have a Cameron amp that was built on a turret board that breathes fire.
By the way, when are you rolling out your amp? The clips sounded very cool.
jerrydyer":1ol8stmq said:Im hopin they will throw some biz my way. Surreal, the poor mans CCV......
gtrwun":23om7atl said:50? Id say there is a whole bunch of us here who are around that age? Got a problem with that?
I think the majority of us, albeit silent, are very grateful for the updates. Maybe some of the silent ones should pipe up and show our appreciation.Tone Merchant":2p4yiv3m said:Why is it the only time I get to post on Rig-talk anymore, I have to start out by saying on a Fractal or cameron forum.
Please can we just chill out
Everyone is screaming for daily updates and pictures and play by play action. We go way out of my way just to take some pictures and send them to brad so he can update everyone. What no one has mentioned yet is that the amps arent done, they are simply in the process of being manufactured.
charveldan":2bvom3o3 said:Dave Friedman, Rob & Martika are some of the kewlest people ive dealt with..............cheer up fuggers, it's worth the wait.
Ooopps, my bad, none of this would be possible without you Brad, Semper Fi.King Guitar":35r7uzhx said:charveldan":35r7uzhx said:Dave Friedman, Rob & Martika are some of the kewlest people ive dealt with..............cheer up fuggers, it's worth the wait.
guess I didnt make the cut...
charveldan":3d1y64jl said:Ooopps, my bad, none of this would be possible without you Brad, Semper Fi.King Guitar":3d1y64jl said:charveldan":3d1y64jl said:Dave Friedman, Rob & Martika are some of the kewlest people ive dealt with..............cheer up fuggers, it's worth the wait.
guess I didnt make the cut...
charveldan":2dyj6rg9 said:Ooopps, my bad, none of this would be possible without you AND YOUR UMBRELLA, Brad, Semper Fi.