More drama at the Ernie Ball Music Man Forum

[Ventura]

At the end of the day, if this is simply about photos of a guitar....who gives a shit?!?! I mean, it's a guitar.

Now, posting photos of someone's wife with a sausage in hand - or elsewhere - (thank you FZ), different story. But a guitar?? Whatever...

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Sounds like Ball didn't have his photobucket options set correctly, it wasn't "hacked" he just had his whole album viewable.

 

[grooveHT]

Your actions are pretty prickstyle!

Sounds kinky

Prickstyle sounds like a BMX bike trick or somesuch.

 

[Diplodomare]

Regardless of what your opinion of S. Ball is, "Glenn" acted stupidly and criminally. I'd be pissed too.

This has zero to do with "how the internet works".




DM

 

[THEE HAMMER]

Forgetting to lock your photobucket albums is a noob mistake, at least it only created more interest in the new guitars.

Ball should take it as a lesson learned and not throw a pissy fit, though Glen should have asked permission.... in an ideal world where us internet denizens aren't mischievous men.

 

[grooveHT]

Regardless of what your opinion of S. Ball is, "Glenn" acted stupidly and criminally. I'd be pissed too.

This has zero to do with "how the internet works".




DM

I don't know that reposting an unlocked picture from a photobucket account is criminal. Might suck, might not be nice, might even not be classy, but I think criminal is a wee bit of an overstatement, don't you think?

 

[shred4Him]

I think Glenn messed up, but the reaction was beyond unprofessional. That should have been handled privately between the two of them.

 

[blackba]

Leave that mess on the EBMM forum!

+1 and if I am forced to side with anyone in this issue its Sterling.

 

[Bill Brasky]

His response makes me feel like going to the EBMM forum, post some pics of my OLP copy, then rave about how superior it is/how they all got ripped off and watch the heads explode.

p.s. This also works with LTD's on ESP fanboy forums.

 

[RedRider]

Please....you subs rive to someone's photobucket acct and it will email you every time they upload a set of public pics. It also gives an email to the originator if they so choose. It's Ernie freekin ball....he is posting pics of a soon to be released guitar... Host them on your own web space vice posting on photobucket you cheapscate??!?!!!! It's pathetic!! You are a multimillion dollar company that is using photobucket....badly at that...and then complain when you screw up and don't set permissions correctly and guys get a peak at something. Gimme a break!! It's sterling who is in the wrong. Get you IT dept to host pics and u wouldn't have this issue

 

[bravedude2]

 

[Tone Zone]

Please....you subs rive to someone's photobucket acct and it will email you every time they upload a set of public pics. It also gives an email to the originator if they so choose. It's Ernie freekin ball....he is posting pics of a soon to be released guitar... Host them on your own web space vice posting on photobucket you cheapscate??!?!!!! It's pathetic!! You are a multimillion dollar company that is using photobucket....badly at that...and then complain when you screw up and don't set permissions correctly and guys get a peak at something. Gimme a break!! It's sterling who is in the wrong. Get you IT dept to host pics and u wouldn't have this issue

That's the way I see it as well! Everyone who keeps posting saying what he did was criminal, illegal, etc.....don't have a clue of what they are talking about.

 

[bigdaddyd]

Please....you subs rive to someone's photobucket acct and it will email you every time they upload a set of public pics. It also gives an email to the originator if they so choose. It's Ernie freekin ball....he is posting pics of a soon to be released guitar... Host them on your own web space vice posting on photobucket you cheapscate??!?!!!! It's pathetic!! You are a multimillion dollar company that is using photobucket....badly at that...and then complain when you screw up and don't set permissions correctly and guys get a peak at something. Gimme a break!! It's sterling who is in the wrong. Get you IT dept to host pics and u wouldn't have this issue

That's the way I see it as well! Everyone who keeps posting saying what he did was criminal, illegal, etc.....don't have a clue of what they are talking about.

You don't get it. He doesn't have to do it your way. He can do it whatever way he wants. He has the right to not have his personal or company stuff taken and redistributed by someone without his permission. That pissed him off. It would piss you off too if someone got some pics of your mom in compromising positions that she posted on photobucket because she was clueless and then they reposted them. Why he used that service as opposed to his IT dept or what the content was is irrelevant. It is his content and he has every right to be pissed. Could he have handled it better? Sure. Don't support his company if you don't like it. You are still more wrong then him. He is pissed at someone disrespecting his property and you are spreading his shit all over the place. Not even close. He didn't slam that guy anywhere else but on his own forums. Hell, did he even ban him? If not then there really is no contest.

 

[glassjaw7]

Ball needs to chill the fuck out. There's nothing "creepy" about a guy finding pics of new gear and posting them up. If it's such a big deal to him to keep his photobucket profile private, he should learn how to change his settings and make it that way. Glenn apologized, end of story. S.B. is a big baby. I like his guitars, though.

 

[Philo Beddoe]

Who was it who was banned from that forum after talking about Eddie screwing Ball's wife? That whole thing cracked me up.

Uhmmm... .....that would be me

 

[nevusofota]

Please....you subs rive to someone's photobucket acct and it will email you every time they upload a set of public pics. It also gives an email to the originator if they so choose. It's Ernie freekin ball....he is posting pics of a soon to be released guitar... Host them on your own web space vice posting on photobucket you cheapscate??!?!!!! It's pathetic!! You are a multimillion dollar company that is using photobucket....badly at that...and then complain when you screw up and don't set permissions correctly and guys get a peak at something. Gimme a break!! It's sterling who is in the wrong. Get you IT dept to host pics and u wouldn't have this issue

That's the way I see it as well! Everyone who keeps posting saying what he did was criminal, illegal, etc.....don't have a clue of what they are talking about.

You don't get it. He doesn't have to do it your way. He can do it whatever way he wants. He has the right to not have his personal or company stuff taken and redistributed by someone without his permission. That pissed him off. It would piss you off too if someone got some pics of your mom in compromising positions that she posted on photobucket because she was clueless and then they reposted them. Why he used that service as opposed to his IT dept or what the content was is irrelevant. It is his content and he has every right to be pissed. Could he have handled it better? Sure. Don't support his company if you don't like it. You are still more wrong then him. He is pissed at someone disrespecting his property and you are spreading his shit all over the place. Not even close. He didn't slam that guy anywhere else but on his own forums. Hell, did he even ban him? If not then there really is no contest.

Does he have the right to not have his personal or company stuff taken and redistributed? I don't know man. Legally I don't think he has the right. In this situation his "personal" stuff became public by his own doing. He should only be angry at himself. If you don't know how to use the internet don't use public sites (facebook, photobucket, etc.). Bottom line is if you REALLY don't want pics/info getting out, don't post them. And if you do, know how to keep them private. You have to remember, it is no longer your own personal content when you post to a public site and don't set it up properly. It then becomes publically owned (even if it was made public by mistake). This gets so many people into trouble nowadays, especially kids/teenagers.

 

[Tone Zone]

You don't get it. He doesn't have to do it your way. He can do it whatever way he wants. He has the right to not have his personal or company stuff taken and redistributed by someone without his permission. That pissed him off. It would piss you off too if someone got some pics of your mom in compromising positions that she posted on photobucket because she was clueless and then they reposted them. Why he used that service as opposed to his IT dept or what the content was is irrelevant. It is his content and he has every right to be pissed. Could he have handled it better? Sure. Don't support his company if you don't like it. You are still more wrong then him. He is pissed at someone disrespecting his property and you are spreading his shit all over the place. Not even close. He didn't slam that guy anywhere else but on his own forums. Hell, did he even ban him? If not then there really is no contest.

lol....You're the one that's not "getting it." Sure, he doesn't have to use his own personal website....he can use Photobucket if he wants to. But, if he does use Photobucket....they ARE available to the public whether he (or you) like it or not....this is how the website works. Ignorance to this fact is not an excuse. User beware....if someone has a problem with that, DON'T POST THEM THERE. Now, there are steps that the website allows the user to execute in order to not have his/her pics shared....but the user must do this. By default though, this is not the case....they are not going to do this for you. So, it is what it is. If you had a Photobucket account and you did not take the steps to "lock" them down, I could post your pics all over hell and back. You may not like it, but you would have been the one to make them available. When you sign up for a photobucket account, you're allowing your pics to be shared with the general public, unless you specify otherwise. I can't break it down for you anymore basic than that.

 

[rupe]

You don't get it. He doesn't have to do it your way. He can do it whatever way he wants. He has the right to not have his personal or company stuff taken and redistributed by someone without his permission. That pissed him off. It would piss you off too if someone got some pics of your mom in compromising positions that she posted on photobucket because she was clueless and then they reposted them. Why he used that service as opposed to his IT dept or what the content was is irrelevant. It is his content and he has every right to be pissed. Could he have handled it better? Sure. Don't support his company if you don't like it. You are still more wrong then him. He is pissed at someone disrespecting his property and you are spreading his shit all over the place. Not even close. He didn't slam that guy anywhere else but on his own forums. Hell, did he even ban him? If not then there really is no contest.

lol....You're the one that's not "getting it." Sure, he doesn't have to use his own personal website....he can use Photobucket if he wants to. But, if he does use Photobucket....they ARE available to the public whether he (or you) like it or not....this is how the website works. Ignorance to this fact is not an excuse. User beware....if someone has a problem with that, DON'T POST THEM THERE. Now, there are steps that the website allows the user to execute in order to not have his/her pics shared....but the user must do this. By default though, this is not the case....they are not going to do this for you. So, it is what it is. If you had a Photobucket account and you did not take the steps to "lock" them down, I could post your pics all over hell and back. You may not like it, but you would have been the one to make them available. When you sign up for a photobucket account, you're allowing your pics to be shared with the general public, unless you specify otherwise. I can't break it down for you anymore basic than that.

I'm shocked by how many people can't seem to decipher between whats legal and whats simply decent human behavior. Just because its not illegal to grab those pics and repost doesn't mean it was cool to do.

Bottom line is the decent thing would have been to ask, even it its not required. Anybody who thinks otherwise is fucked up IMO.

 

[nevusofota]

There are 2 ways of thinking about this: Legal and/or Moral

1. it is Legal.
2. it wasn't a morally good thing to do.

Bottom line

I think everyone here agrees it wasn't morally good, but some think it was illegal which is just not true.

 

[Tone Zone]

I'm shocked by how many people can't seem to decipher between whats legal and whats simply decent human behavior. Just because its not illegal to grab those pics and repost doesn't mean it was cool to do.

Bottom line is the decent thing would have been to ask, even it its not required. Anybody who thinks otherwise is fucked up IMO.

What many of you people can't seem to decipher is that we're speaking of two different aspects. Some of you choose to blend both of them together. At no time did I ever concede that what "Glenn" did was right. Everyone can make that judgement on their own. You've got the "bottom line" confused....because someone else might think otherwise. The bottom line is....if S.B. never wanted these pics shared, he should have took the appropriate steps to "lock" them....and they wouldn't have been shared. This is a FACT, whereas what you said is not. You could argue this "fact" if you want, but you'd only be pissin' in the wind....as this fact still remains. Someone signs up for a photobucket account this is explained.