The Mark series amps dont have to sound honky, that's just how a lot of people dial them in, with the 750 slider a bit too high. You can completely dial it out, but there's a point where too much mid scoop kills your tone. There's a sweet spot on that graphic slider, just above the bottom line.
Actually according to the engineer (Mr C) the Rhythm tones on Facelift were boosted Blackface Bassman through GBs. The Bogner Marshall was used for leads and some of the rhythm tracks doubled with the Fender
Lynch, Def Lep, U2, Vivian Campbell are some who used the RG for a time
A workhorse of an amp, great tones, cheap, dependable, and you even see them in the stables of many pros. Hard to argue.
They were the amp to have back in the 80's, with tube Marshall like tone at reasonable volume to blistering volume and without having to hassle with tubes and such. It was state of the art back then. I remember seeing a rack from Steve of Def Leppard. he used like 2 or 3 RG100HT rack heads during the hysteria tour. The Edge used a rg80 combo and used the clean channel which was also quite nice on those amps (as long as you got one that didn't have bleed thru issues).
I know what you're talking about, but the "sweet spot" doesn't exist for me at the 750hz slider. That's one of the reasons why I stopped using boogies?
Just not the amps for you i guess?? Why did you go thru so many to come to this conclusion?? you should have figured out that the Mark series and Boogies in general aren't for you after the first two amps.
You're right, they aren't.
Amir Derakh too in Rough Cutt.
DC10 is a nice amp; I agree with some of what you said about the Mesas you’ve tried but one thing I’ve learned after NOT liking Mk IIIs, most Rectos is this: they are hugely model/revision dependent. Hated the bloat of Rev G duals; sterility of Mk IIIs and tubby 3 channel Rectos. But, 2C+ or earlier (with eq) Marks, Mk IVs and Rev F or earlier Rectos (including G triples) are fantastic amps that deliver and sound organic/rich
I would choose that even over many very expensive amps made today. The green channel with a good boost like my Klon sounded very good and very big sounding
Really, it's suprising that they would choose a Bassman over a Bogner modifier Marshall for rhythm tones, but it sounds good. I knew they used Greenbacks, it sure sounds like it. I thought I read an interview with Cantrell where he stated that Facelift was just the modified Marshall, but I guess i'm wrong??
Me too. I like the red channel boosted with a Boss sd-1 or od808, sounds killer for high gain. Never used the built in treble knob pull boost, it compresses the tone too much. A ESP Viper thru a Randall rg100es into a recto cab was my rig for a long time, and I always got complimented on my tone. I took the logo off, and people were always so surprised when I told them what I was using to get my tone. They thought for sure it was a tube amp cause of how big it sounded and how well it cut thru the mix.
My opinion is that most people who find the Marks unappealing are running the 240hz too high. I've always been surprised by the classic "V" as it sounds too bloated to me.