natas or hagen???

[killertone]

In all seriousness, if the Hagen is even remotely like a Herbert then I would have to say Natas by a landslide. I owned a Herbert and the Natas that Mike loaned me destroyed it in every way.

I know a good psyche if you care dig deep.

BTW - Herbert has some knobs you might want to become familiar with.

Not everyting is BIG in Texas.

I yield my time...

I have no idea what this means.

 

[King Crimson]

I have no idea what this means.

Lemme break it down for ya...

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And to boot we're having a barbeque afterward - come on by for some killer baby backs and tasty sides.

 

[killertone]

I REALLY like what I heard with the Natas, but I just knew what I would be getting with the Diezel. It was easier to pick since I have owned a vh4 for 2 years now. I have played a Herbert and I think there are some awesome sounds in it, but I really think the Hagen is better described as a VH4 on steroids with a little bit of that Herbert gainy saturation. The VH4 was REALLY dry and tight, the Hagen can do that, but it has this MORE to it...more gain, a convincing difference in the gain structure, some REALLY chewy mids, some would say its looser, but its still really tight. It just breathes differently, has a little bit of that Herbert WHOMP factor but the low end stays really defined. I played ALOT of amps this last year...and I have heard ALOT of clips...as much as the Natas sounds like an ultimate metal monster, the Hagen is right there.... its like racing a ferrari and a lamborghini. To me the Hagen is the ferrari. If you know anything about those cars then the analogy is complete.

I don't know anything about ferraris or lambos so I don't get that.

I do however really want to play a Hagen based on what you just said. I know Diezel makes a killer amp, no doubt, I have been waiting for them to build one that really jives with my playing style.

Anytime your in LA, let me know man. You can try out the Hagen.

I'll be in LA on Monday...