New Warmoth VIP Guitar Day :)

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jlbaxe":2u5zv8vh said:
how r their necks? smooth fenderish?
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Well...you can get whatever neck you want. I have 10 electrics. 5 of them have warmoth necks if that tells you anything...the other 4 were fully hand made necks..and the last one was made by Suhr ;).

I have 3 that have a Wizard profile...which I LOVE! and 2 that have the standard thin (which the VIP guitar has). Definitely love Warmoth's necks, after a fret leveling job has been done. My luthier does a standup job on the necks. Does as good as a job as my Suhr, minus it not being stainless steel frets.

Eric
 
Is the wizard profile like Ibanez Wizard or is it warmoths own profile?
 
MkIV":1c9hki53 said:
Is the wizard profile like Ibanez Wizard or is it warmoths own profile?
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It's similar to the Ibanez wizard, but not an exact copy, as Warmoth does a lot of compound radius 10"-16" necks, which I have to tell you is BRILLIANT! :)
 
That's nice man. Did Warmoth do the finish, or did you? What bridge is that?
 
Resonant Alien":3gtjay6o said:
That's nice man. Did Warmoth do the finish, or did you? What bridge is that?
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Warmoth did. It was a showcase body that I bought as is.

It's the Gotoh 510 bridge. Great bridge I really am digging it :).

Eric
 
Yo,Did I say that that is a fucking great looking guitar man???????Eric that is smoking dude!!!!!
 
I'm wanting to build a 12 string electric from Warmoth parts - just can't decide which body style to go with.....
 
Resonant Alien":261yzxx4 said:
I'm wanting to build a 12 string electric from Warmoth parts - just can't decide which body style to go with.....
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For a 12 string...I'd go w/ a VIP body myself, or a SG style body.

Eric
 
I think I've narrowed it down to an SG or LP Special shape (double-cut, flat top). I'm actually kind of leaning more toward the LPS shape because it is more "generic", if that makes sense - I dunno, I think it would feel odd building a guitar with a shape as distinctive as an SG, but without it actually being an SG (meaning, all the necks are 25-1/2 in scale, bolt-on - which makes it really not an SG, ya know?) I just think if I were to build something that looks like an SG, it should be a 24-3/4 in scale, set neck....but maybe I'm overthinking it too much, or being a little to OCD! Same reason I am not really looking at the LP shape. Now, I know a "real" LP Special is 24-3/4 in scale, set neck also, but I think that double-cut flat top shape is not quite as "proprietary" as the LP or SG shapes, so I feel like it being a 25-1/2 scale bolt neck would be "acceptable". (I think I'm not making any sense... :doh: )

I'm also not sure about the wood type - kind of thinking alder or mahogany, but then the Ric 12 strings are made out of maple.....I just think maple would be too bright.

Then the pickups - P90s or Gretsch-style TV Jones filtertrons? Or just plain old vintage 'buckers (I don't think you would want anything too hot on a 12 string!)

Decisions, decisions.....
 
Resonant Alien":2yhs4bzd said:
I think I've narrowed it down to an SG or LP Special shape (double-cut, flat top). I'm actually kind of leaning more toward the LPS shape because it is more "generic", if that makes sense - I dunno, I think it would feel odd building a guitar with a shape as distinctive as an SG, but without it actually being an SG (meaning, all the necks are 25-1/2 in scale, bolt-on - which makes it really not an SG, ya know?) I just think if I were to build something that looks like an SG, it should be a 24-3/4 in scale, set neck....but maybe I'm overthinking it too much, or being a little to OCD! Same reason I am not really looking at the LP shape. Now, I know a "real" LP Special is 24-3/4 in scale, set neck also, but I think that double-cut flat top shape is not quite as "proprietary" as the LP or SG shapes, so I feel like it being a 25-1/2 scale bolt neck would be "acceptable". (I think I'm not making any sense... :doh: )

I'm also not sure about the wood type - kind of thinking alder or mahogany, but then the Ric 12 strings are made out of maple.....I just think maple would be too bright.

Then the pickups - P90s or Gretsch-style TV Jones filtertrons? Or just plain old vintage 'buckers (I don't think you would want anything too hot on a 12 string!)

Decisions, decisions.....
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Having owned a lot of guitars, and built a LOT of warmoths...I have to say...that the scale length doesn't really "make or break a guitar" nor does being a set neck. Being a set neck does help w/ sustain some, but having all guitars w/ bolt-on necks...and having some guitars in the past w/ set necks...I don't really feel I'm losing much at all w/ bolt on necks.

As far as building your guitar...build what YOU like, not what Gibson makes...or what Fender makes..

That's why I started building Warmoths. I loved certain Gibsons, PRS's, or fenders, but I was always wanting one, two, or three, etc. things changed. For example...I love my PRS CE-24 w/ the wide thin neck...but hated 24 frets and the shorter scale. Hence why I built this guitar w/ a 25.5" scale, and w/ the nut width (1 11/16") I wanted. Build your dream guitar...not the guitar that's the status quo from Gibson / Fender / PRS. That's why Warmoth has been so successful. They help you build your guitar that meets EVERY ONE of your specifciations. You won't care that it's a bolt on...you won't care that it has 25.5" scale if that's what you are used to and like the best....or do vice versa.

Build what's most comfortable for you.

Eric
 
Very well said Eric.

I can certainly identify with how the Alien feels at the thought of a 25.5 bolt on SG though, cause I've looked at that body on the Warmoth site and I felt exactly the same way. It's just a mental obstacle that needs to be torn down. Think of it this way... what if you put a neck onto that SG that was unfinished wood (like a one-piece brazilian RW neck :inlove: , something that Gibson would never put on) and imagine how good that neck would feel to play. Now instead of concentrating on how wrong the bolt-on feels, you are thinking of how much you would like to play that new neck. In other words, remove the mental obstacle by replacing it with a positive benefit that makes the fact that it is a bolt-on much less relevant.

Just my pscho-analytical .02 cents.

FWIW I think that Nick and Eric both have the art of Warmoth building down to a fine science.
 
I forgot to say... I used to buy set-neck/neck-through guitars only because of the increased sustain etc.. Recently I bought a few top-notch bolt-ons, which is a first for me in 25 years of playing guitar. My neck-throughs and a few of myset-necks do have more sustain than the bolt-ons, but not enough to matter. For me now the important thing is how resonant, big and open the guitar sounds, and finding the right pickup for the guitar to turn it into a tonal panacea.

I love my new bolt-ons! I wouldn't hesitate to build a bolt-on SG, as long as I can be reasonably sure that Warmoth isn't going to send me a body that is tonally dead.
 
MichaelG":3s0jjkpu said:
Very well said Eric.

I can certainly identify with how the Alien feels at the thought of a 25.5 bolt on SG though, cause I've looked at that body on the Warmoth site and I felt exactly the same way. It's just a mental obstacle that needs to be torn down. Think of it this way... what if you put a neck onto that SG that was unfinished wood (like a one-piece brazilian RW neck :inlove: , something that Gibson would never put on) and imagine how good that neck would feel to play. Now instead of concentrating on how wrong the bolt-on feels, you are thinking of how much you would like to play that new neck. In other words, remove the mental obstacle by replacing it with a positive benefit that makes the fact that it is a bolt-on much less relevant.

Just my pscho-analytical .02 cents.

FWIW I think that Nick and Eric both have the art of Warmoth building down to a fine science.
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Well said yourself :) Look at this guitar I built...Goncalo Alves back of the neck / Pau Ferro on the fingerboard. Both woods don't need to be finished...something Gibson / PRS would never do like you said...and damn if this guitar isn't a player with UBER tone. I hate to say it...but I think the tone of this VIP smokes any PRS I've had (that's about 5-6 really nice PRS's too!).

If you research things..and know the tone woods you want...you can get great results w/ Warmoth. Nick does a great job..and I'm very pleased with what I've done so far. There's a reason why only one of my guitars has a name brand on it...which is a Suhr. 4 of them say warmoth...4 are handmade by a local luthier....and 1 Suhr... :)

Eric
 
MichaelG":3tuxxzn0 said:
I forgot to say... I used to buy set-neck/neck-through guitars only because of the increased sustain etc.. Recently I bought a few top-notch bolt-ons, which is a first for me in 25 years of playing guitar. My neck-throughs and a few of myset-necks do have more sustain than the bolt-ons, but not enough to matter. For me now the important thing is how resonant, big and open the guitar sounds, and finding the right pickup for the guitar to turn it into a tonal panacea.

I love my new bolt-ons! I wouldn't hesitate to build a bolt-on SG, as long as I can be reasonably sure that Warmoth isn't going to send me a body that is tonally dead.
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I've built probably 25 Warmoth guitars...with one I can remember I just didn't bond with at all. As finicky as wood is...that's not a bad deal. Thankfully I only had $500 in the neck / body, so I really didn't care! It was meant to be a beater anyway.

On the other hand...the higher end stuff from warmoth has been 100% spot on. Their necks feel as good as my Suhrs...but I'll have to say...the build quality of the Suhrs...well is just like non other. There is a difference in fret jobs between my Warmoths / Suhrs...but that's to be expected. The guys at Suhr know how to use their plek machine REALLY well. :)

Eric
 
broknstuff":1za3o2wk said:
very nice eric!
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yeah he has me wanting to build a Tele (I like the red clear and Blue) and Jerry Garcia guitar :bash:
 
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