OMG!!!! "THE MODUAL" SL2XX

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aeroic":3g5f4bmw said:
richedie":3g5f4bmw said:
But I thought the whole idea of the SL2 was to have Egnater's take on a Marshall, smoother, less cut your head of high end and upper mids, just a more pleasing tone to the ear. :)
It is like that with a lot of his mods like the Erect - which is why I like that one. But the desire is there to have a more real Recto...so I understand form that standpoint for sure.

If I only had SL2, I might want IT and the SL2X, but since I have the EG3/4, it might make sense to look at the SL2X.

Sorry, I am playing devil's advocate.

That's exactly the point rich...Most of us like Marshalls that have more growl, bite in the upper mids. That's what makes Marshall well..a Marshall. I'm a Marshall guy...and never quite fell in love w/ the stock SL2 because of all of those reasons. The SL2X doesn't have "cut your head off high end" or too much mids at all. It has the right amount of upper mids...which the changes really give it a lot more clarity and presence to it. I personally think the SL2X is MUCH more pleasing to the ear, and fits better in a mix vs the SL2.

If you want smoother...go the EG3/4...and keep it stock. That's the dark / smooth Marshall tone you'd want. If you want more of a true Marshall tone...then the SL2X is key.

Play devil's advocate all you want...but there's a reason why so many of us are modding the SL2 to the SL2X specs...it's just THAT good!!! Just go get it done...and quit the speculation!!!! :)

Eric

Agree 1000% Eric. The SL2X is THE Marshall tone I was looking for in this Egnater lineup. I always had a love/hate relationship with the SL2. It never stayed in a slot for very long. The SL2X on the other hand hasn't moved out of the M4 since I got it, and it won't be.

Rich, Think of this tone in your head.....EG3/4 running parallel with the EG5 and mixed into one cabinet. That is what the SL2X sounds like to me. It has all the necessary Marshall frequencies and bite, but not in any way harsh or overly bright. Can be smoothed out to via the EQ on the module or in your face aggressive. In my opinion, it's the perfect compliment to the EG3/4 for covering all the Marshall vibes I want.

I really like the way it feels different depending on which side of the RT2/50 I run it through. On the EL34 side, a nice sag in the mids and round top end. On 5881 side--tight, aggressive and in your face. I probably couldn't be happier with this set up.

Just do it Rich. You won't regret it.

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it..... :rock:
 
muudrock":1ws9esqu said:
aeroic":1ws9esqu said:
richedie":1ws9esqu said:
But I thought the whole idea of the SL2 was to have Egnater's take on a Marshall, smoother, less cut your head of high end and upper mids, just a more pleasing tone to the ear. :)
It is like that with a lot of his mods like the Erect - which is why I like that one. But the desire is there to have a more real Recto...so I understand form that standpoint for sure.

If I only had SL2, I might want IT and the SL2X, but since I have the EG3/4, it might make sense to look at the SL2X.

Sorry, I am playing devil's advocate.

That's exactly the point rich...Most of us like Marshalls that have more growl, bite in the upper mids. That's what makes Marshall well..a Marshall. I'm a Marshall guy...and never quite fell in love w/ the stock SL2 because of all of those reasons. The SL2X doesn't have "cut your head off high end" or too much mids at all. It has the right amount of upper mids...which the changes really give it a lot more clarity and presence to it. I personally think the SL2X is MUCH more pleasing to the ear, and fits better in a mix vs the SL2.

If you want smoother...go the EG3/4...and keep it stock. That's the dark / smooth Marshall tone you'd want. If you want more of a true Marshall tone...then the SL2X is key.

Play devil's advocate all you want...but there's a reason why so many of us are modding the SL2 to the SL2X specs...it's just THAT good!!! Just go get it done...and quit the speculation!!!! :)

Eric

Agree 1000% Eric. The SL2X is THE Marshall tone I was looking for in this Egnater lineup. I always had a love/hate relationship with the SL2. It never stayed in a slot for very long. The SL2X on the other hand hasn't moved out of the M4 since I got it, and it won't be.

Rich, Think of this tone in your head.....EG3/4 running parallel with the EG5 and mixed into one cabinet. That is what the SL2X sounds like to me. It has all the necessary Marshall frequencies and bite, but not in any way harsh or overly bright. Can be smoothed out to via the EQ on the module or in your face aggressive. In my opinion, it's the perfect compliment to the EG3/4 for covering all the Marshall vibes I want.

I really like the way it feels different depending on which side of the RT2/50 I run it through. On the EL34 side, a nice sag in the mids and round top end. On 5881 side--tight, aggressive and in your face. I probably couldn't be happier with this set up.

Just do it Rich. You won't regret it.

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it..... :rock:

+1000000000000000000000000000000 here too!!!

As the old saying goes...Rich...either shit or get off the pot! :) hahahaha
 
I'm just now getting my rig tweeked out and last night when I was dialing in the SL2X I was very happy with what I was hearing. I like it quite a bit more than the stock SL2.

Now my de-lima, when Jeff modded mine he didn't write anything on it at all. No where does it say GnR (this was before the SL2X name was chosen). So do I add a X to the front label or go stealth?
 
jakeddy":duj9n82e said:
I'm just now getting my rig tweeked out and last night when I was dialing in the SL2X I was very happy with what I was hearing. I like it quite a bit more than the stock SL2.

Now my de-lima, when Jeff modded mine he didn't write anything on it at all. No where does it say GnR (this was before the SL2X name was chosen). So do I add a X to the front label or go stealth?

Gotta put the X on there...

/* cues up....Kiss - Lets put the X in Sex!!! */
 
aeroic":2uec4tjl said:
muudrock":2uec4tjl said:
aeroic":2uec4tjl said:
richedie":2uec4tjl said:
But I thought the whole idea of the SL2 was to have Egnater's take on a Marshall, smoother, less cut your head of high end and upper mids, just a more pleasing tone to the ear. :)
It is like that with a lot of his mods like the Erect - which is why I like that one. But the desire is there to have a more real Recto...so I understand form that standpoint for sure.

If I only had SL2, I might want IT and the SL2X, but since I have the EG3/4, it might make sense to look at the SL2X.

Sorry, I am playing devil's advocate.

That's exactly the point rich...Most of us like Marshalls that have more growl, bite in the upper mids. That's what makes Marshall well..a Marshall. I'm a Marshall guy...and never quite fell in love w/ the stock SL2 because of all of those reasons. The SL2X doesn't have "cut your head off high end" or too much mids at all. It has the right amount of upper mids...which the changes really give it a lot more clarity and presence to it. I personally think the SL2X is MUCH more pleasing to the ear, and fits better in a mix vs the SL2.

If you want smoother...go the EG3/4...and keep it stock. That's the dark / smooth Marshall tone you'd want. If you want more of a true Marshall tone...then the SL2X is key.

Play devil's advocate all you want...but there's a reason why so many of us are modding the SL2 to the SL2X specs...it's just THAT good!!! Just go get it done...and quit the speculation!!!! :)

Eric

Agree 1000% Eric. The SL2X is THE Marshall tone I was looking for in this Egnater lineup. I always had a love/hate relationship with the SL2. It never stayed in a slot for very long. The SL2X on the other hand hasn't moved out of the M4 since I got it, and it won't be.

Rich, Think of this tone in your head.....EG3/4 running parallel with the EG5 and mixed into one cabinet. That is what the SL2X sounds like to me. It has all the necessary Marshall frequencies and bite, but not in any way harsh or overly bright. Can be smoothed out to via the EQ on the module or in your face aggressive. In my opinion, it's the perfect compliment to the EG3/4 for covering all the Marshall vibes I want.

I really like the way it feels different depending on which side of the RT2/50 I run it through. On the EL34 side, a nice sag in the mids and round top end. On 5881 side--tight, aggressive and in your face. I probably couldn't be happier with this set up.

Just do it Rich. You won't regret it.

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it..... :rock:

+1000000000000000000000000000000 here too!!!

As the old saying goes...Rich...either shit or get off the pot! :) hahahaha

Ah,HAHAHA! Seriously though, you can get the stock SL2 tone out of it with ease by dialing in a bit smoother and the Desity helps a bit also- They should seize production on the SL, and SL2 ang just make this one, it covers all of them, with plenty left for the metal heads.....I just got some EI tubes today, so I'll be voicing it today...
 
MotorCityPickUps":29hh30sf said:
aeroic":29hh30sf said:
muudrock":29hh30sf said:
aeroic":29hh30sf said:
richedie":29hh30sf said:
But I thought the whole idea of the SL2 was to have Egnater's take on a Marshall, smoother, less cut your head of high end and upper mids, just a more pleasing tone to the ear. :)
It is like that with a lot of his mods like the Erect - which is why I like that one. But the desire is there to have a more real Recto...so I understand form that standpoint for sure.

If I only had SL2, I might want IT and the SL2X, but since I have the EG3/4, it might make sense to look at the SL2X.

Sorry, I am playing devil's advocate.

That's exactly the point rich...Most of us like Marshalls that have more growl, bite in the upper mids. That's what makes Marshall well..a Marshall. I'm a Marshall guy...and never quite fell in love w/ the stock SL2 because of all of those reasons. The SL2X doesn't have "cut your head off high end" or too much mids at all. It has the right amount of upper mids...which the changes really give it a lot more clarity and presence to it. I personally think the SL2X is MUCH more pleasing to the ear, and fits better in a mix vs the SL2.

If you want smoother...go the EG3/4...and keep it stock. That's the dark / smooth Marshall tone you'd want. If you want more of a true Marshall tone...then the SL2X is key.

Play devil's advocate all you want...but there's a reason why so many of us are modding the SL2 to the SL2X specs...it's just THAT good!!! Just go get it done...and quit the speculation!!!! :)

Eric

Agree 1000% Eric. The SL2X is THE Marshall tone I was looking for in this Egnater lineup. I always had a love/hate relationship with the SL2. It never stayed in a slot for very long. The SL2X on the other hand hasn't moved out of the M4 since I got it, and it won't be.

Rich, Think of this tone in your head.....EG3/4 running parallel with the EG5 and mixed into one cabinet. That is what the SL2X sounds like to me. It has all the necessary Marshall frequencies and bite, but not in any way harsh or overly bright. Can be smoothed out to via the EQ on the module or in your face aggressive. In my opinion, it's the perfect compliment to the EG3/4 for covering all the Marshall vibes I want.

I really like the way it feels different depending on which side of the RT2/50 I run it through. On the EL34 side, a nice sag in the mids and round top end. On 5881 side--tight, aggressive and in your face. I probably couldn't be happier with this set up.

Just do it Rich. You won't regret it.

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it..... :rock:

+1000000000000000000000000000000 here too!!!

As the old saying goes...Rich...either shit or get off the pot! :) hahahaha

Ah,HAHAHA! Seriously though, you can get the stock SL2 tone out of it with ease by dialing in a bit smoother and the Desity helps a bit also- They should seize production on the SL, and SL2 ang just make this one, it covers all of them, with plenty left for the metal heads.....I just got some EI tubes today, so I'll be voicing it today...
:lol: :LOL: Your a madman Wade!!!!! :thumbsup:
 
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.
 
richedie":1vh8fg5q said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.
We knew this :D
 
jmgman69":19o47l22 said:
richedie":19o47l22 said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.
We knew this :D
:lol: :LOL: :D
 
richedie":1pyx1ead said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.

problem is presence is post circuit and it's like putting frosting on the cake. The mod is in the batter where it acts like it's part of the receipe!
 
richedie":3rs7zh6j said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.

Your ears must definitely like smoother tones than mine because I can't think of one situation where I'd rather have the stock SL2 over the SL2X. But hey...that's why we have all these choices. :thumbsup:
 
bstaley":3fx23xyu said:
richedie":3fx23xyu said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.

Your ears must definitely like smoother tones than mine because I can't think of one situation where I'd rather have the stock SL2 over the SL2X. But hey...that's why we have all these choices. :thumbsup:

You must have bad tubes man...if it's noisey... I played 2 GNRs this weekend at Jason's...and they aren't noisey man.

It's all up to you and your ears. You're the only one on the board here I know that likes the SL2 more than the SL2X. To each his own!
 
aeroic":1crejvkk said:
bstaley":1crejvkk said:
richedie":1crejvkk said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.

Your ears must definitely like smoother tones than mine because I can't think of one situation where I'd rather have the stock SL2 over the SL2X. But hey...that's why we have all these choices. :thumbsup:

You must have bad tubes man...if it's noisey... I played 2 GNRs this weekend at Jason's...and they aren't noisey man.

It's all up to you and your ears. You're the only one on the board here I know that likes the SL2 more than the SL2X. To each his own!
Eric dialed some nice EG3/4 tones and even some bitch'n EJ type tones on lower gain setting,really an AWESOME module!!!!
 
jmgman69":uz1nbqhb said:
aeroic":uz1nbqhb said:
bstaley":uz1nbqhb said:
richedie":uz1nbqhb said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.

Your ears must definitely like smoother tones than mine because I can't think of one situation where I'd rather have the stock SL2 over the SL2X. But hey...that's why we have all these choices. :thumbsup:

You must have bad tubes man...if it's noisey... I played 2 GNRs this weekend at Jason's...and they aren't noisey man.

It's all up to you and your ears. You're the only one on the board here I know that likes the SL2 more than the SL2X. To each his own!
Eric dialed some nice EG3/4 tones and even some bitch'n EJ type tones on lower gain setting,really an AWESOME module!!!!

Tried "muudrocks" COD setup on the SL2X...and it was killer too! Bass at noon...mids all the way up...treble all the way off to 9 oclock...and bass / bright switches off..and it was KILLER! :)
 
aeroic":293ijyd4 said:
jmgman69":293ijyd4 said:
aeroic":293ijyd4 said:
bstaley":293ijyd4 said:
richedie":293ijyd4 said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.

Your ears must definitely like smoother tones than mine because I can't think of one situation where I'd rather have the stock SL2 over the SL2X. But hey...that's why we have all these choices. :thumbsup:

You must have bad tubes man...if it's noisey... I played 2 GNRs this weekend at Jason's...and they aren't noisey man.

It's all up to you and your ears. You're the only one on the board here I know that likes the SL2 more than the SL2X. To each his own!
Eric dialed some nice EG3/4 tones and even some bitch'n EJ type tones on lower gain setting,really an AWESOME module!!!!

Tried "muudrocks" COD setup on the SL2X...and it was killer too! Bass at noon...mids all the way up...treble all the way off to 9 oclock...and bass / bright switches off..and it was KILLER! :)
:rock:
 
muudrock":2uxbxcaa said:
aeroic":2uxbxcaa said:
jmgman69":2uxbxcaa said:
aeroic":2uxbxcaa said:
bstaley":2uxbxcaa said:
richedie":2uxbxcaa said:
Finally tried the GnR mod.

I don't notice a huge difference with the 680pF, a little tighter but nothing drastic.

I left the EG3/4 stock. I tried the mods and I think the magic of the EG3/4 is stock! You forgot to include the 680pF for the EG3/4 but not big deal, I like her stock. Plus, beggers can't be choosers.

On the upper mid bite, I thought it made channel B of the Sl2 too harsh and noisey. Really noisey. I couldn't take it, so i removed it! If I need extra bite and crunch I just turn up the Presence. Presence is essentially upper mids anyway.

Overall I think I'd leave SL2 stock.

Your ears must definitely like smoother tones than mine because I can't think of one situation where I'd rather have the stock SL2 over the SL2X. But hey...that's why we have all these choices. :thumbsup:

You must have bad tubes man...if it's noisey... I played 2 GNRs this weekend at Jason's...and they aren't noisey man.

It's all up to you and your ears. You're the only one on the board here I know that likes the SL2 more than the SL2X. To each his own!
Eric dialed some nice EG3/4 tones and even some bitch'n EJ type tones on lower gain setting,really an AWESOME module!!!!

Tried "muudrocks" COD setup on the SL2X...and it was killer too! Bass at noon...mids all the way up...treble all the way off to 9 oclock...and bass / bright switches off..and it was KILLER! :)
:rock:

It gets very "EG3/4" like...with a little bit of bite in the upper mids. Just wish I had muudrock's EJ type chops ;) I've got more "Chris Duarte" type chops ;)

I need more time to practice!! hahhaah

Eric
 
Another tip 'o the hat to Jeff - thanks for the awesome turnaround on the SL2 --> SL2X. Happy birthday to me...o.k. you missed by a few days, but what the hell that was fast. I only got to fire it up for about 10-15 minutes and most of my guitars are in storage (including the hot humbucker axe) but I could already tell that this was a vast improvement and it had great presence, bite and growl. I almost got a great warm brown sound out of my American Deluxe tele from channel B!!! Thanks again Jeff!!

-dan
 
aeroic":2nqzlc6c said:
It gets very "EG3/4" like...with a little bit of bite in the upper mids.

Which channels on SL2x and EG3/4, and how much gain?
 
Perttu":kzcxp4ki said:
aeroic":kzcxp4ki said:
It gets very "EG3/4" like...with a little bit of bite in the upper mids.

Which channels on SL2x and EG3/4, and how much gain?


COD module. Both channels. Bass@9:00, mids cranked, Treble off.
 
muudrock":31kvol3i said:
Perttu":31kvol3i said:
aeroic":31kvol3i said:
It gets very "EG3/4" like...with a little bit of bite in the upper mids.

Which channels on SL2x and EG3/4, and how much gain?


COD module. Both channels. Bass@9:00, mids cranked, Treble off.

The SL2X also gets very "EG3/4" like with the following settings:

Bass -> noon
Mids -> cranked
Treble -> off to 9 oclock
Bass / Bright switch -> off

Gain is wherever you are comfortable with. I was running ChA at noon...and ChB at noon to 2 oclock.
 
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