Optimal way to write an ad looking for band members?

[skullfxr]

No. Bringing this up in this thread which is completely irrelevant to the topic was a cheap shot on his part. Him and I argued in a off-topic thread. I was right to tell him to get lost.

Fair enough. Not my deal.

 

[CornNutz]

Also perhaps try to find people with different ethnicity than your own. This could help you break through those personal issues we talked about in a different thread.

You haven’t the first clue what my foundational views are, or how I arrived at them, nor do you even come close to understanding them. It is YOU who has the incorrect and unethical views on the aforementioned topic. Not me. You don’t even understand the terms you use.

Please, don’t drag this thread down with this topic. I asked specifically about constructing ads. This was a cheap shot by you. DON’T reply to this. Just stay out of this thread man. That is the most polite way I know to put it. Just leave it be.

Just that shows the traits that don't work in a band.

No. Bringing this up in this thread which is completely irrelevant to the topic was a cheap shot on his part. Him and I argued in a off-topic thread. I was right to tell him to get lost.

Alright, I agreed to stay out of your thread, because you kind of asked nicely. Now that you think you told me to get lost, and that I complied, well you're just stroking your pussy little ego on that one.

With your attitude NO self respecting artist is going to work with you. You have done nothing worthy to get the special dictator treatment you think you're entitled to. People will not respect you, and you'll be a big fucking joke to them.

You remind me of a kid I did some session work for 20+ years ago. We'll really it was his daddy that paid us to play with him, and he paid a "producer" a guy that was a DJ at a local radio station. We did not respect him at all, including the producer. Because he pretty much acted exactly like you're acting right now. Thought he was the shit, but he was a nobody with an ego problem, bought and paid for by his rich dad.

I'm not sure where your ego comes from, but it's not going to work out for you. Unless you are an exceptional artist on your own right that packs out shows, then people might be willing to deal with you to jump on the coat tails.

Keep your shit talk to yourself, and I'll honor my word.

 

[BigGuitars]

@CNutz
Please. I’m asking you. Quit trying to bring down my thread by starting an argument. It started as a simple question, and you couldn’t help but put your little jab in there to try to start an argument. I knew the second you posted that snarky little comment about “hiring people of different ethnicities” that you were just trying to cause an argument and sabotage my thread. I don’t want to argue here.

I also find it funny how people (and I’m speaking to others here besides just you) will read a few sentences you posted on a forum, and suddenly they know everything about your character, and start making all these value judgments about you as a person. “You have the wrong attitude to be in a band”, “you have a big ego”, “nobody’s gonna want to work with you”. Yatta yatta yatta...

What do you know? Have you ever met me? Where do you get off telling me what kind of person I am?

 

[BigGuitars]

Either way. I think I got my answer which is satisfactory for me. “Write write write songs”. I think that’s key. That’s the advice I will take. I’m out of this thread. If you guys want to continue, go right ahead.

 

[guitarbilly74]

I also find it funny how people (and I’m speaking to others here besides just you) will read a few sentences you posted on a forum, and suddenly they know everything about your character, and start making all these value judgments about you as a person. “You have the wrong attitude to be in a band”, “you have a big ego”, “nobody’s gonna want to work with you”. Yatta yatta yatta...

What do you know? Have you ever met me? Where do you get off telling me what kind of person I am?

Well to be fair, you asked for advice on writing (an ad).

People said (based on your writing style) that you sound like an egomaniac.

How's that not answering your question?

If you need the advice you got here broken down to you: don't write the ad the way you wrote these posts. Be more self-aware about how you come across online and work on your written communication skills to come across more friendly and less of a diva (if you're not in fact one).

That would be the "optimal way to write an ad looking for band members".

 

[mooncobra]

do you have any songs we could check out?

 

[CornNutz]

@CNutz
Please. I’m asking you. Quit trying to bring down my thread by starting an argument. It started as a simple question, and you couldn’t help but put your little jab in there to try to start an argument. I knew the second you posted that snarky little comment about “hiring people of different ethnicities” that you were just trying to cause an argument and sabotage my thread. I don’t want to argue here.

I also find it funny how people (and I’m speaking to others here besides just you) will read a few sentences you posted on a forum, and suddenly they know everything about your character, and start making all these value judgments about you as a person. “You have the wrong attitude to be in a band”, “you have a big ego”, “nobody’s gonna want to work with you”. Yatta yatta yatta...

What do you know? Have you ever met me? Where do you get off telling me what kind of person I am?

I think you are a young guy with a lot of potential, but IMO you have some character/ego/diva issue. This is what I get, and others are picking up on it too.
I didn't agree with you in another thread, and it bruised your ego. Maybe I did kind of take a cheep shot at you, but man up, you'll need to take those in life.

Nothing wrong with you being a leader, that is great, we always need leaders. But you come across very authoritarian dictator like. A good leader promotes good work ethic, promotes the best interest of everyone involved, makes people feel part of the bigger picture, be humble, your band mates are not your servants. Find leadership inspiration in guy's like Dave Grohl.

 

[BigGuitars]

People said (based on your writing style) that you sound like an egomaniac.

Okay, well I’m a good person. I’m not an egomaniac.

 

[BigGuitars]

@CNutz
Please. I’m asking you. Quit trying to bring down my thread by starting an argument. It started as a simple question, and you couldn’t help but put your little jab in there to try to start an argument. I knew the second you posted that snarky little comment about “hiring people of different ethnicities” that you were just trying to cause an argument and sabotage my thread. I don’t want to argue here.

I also find it funny how people (and I’m speaking to others here besides just you) will read a few sentences you posted on a forum, and suddenly they know everything about your character, and start making all these value judgments about you as a person. “You have the wrong attitude to be in a band”, “you have a big ego”, “nobody’s gonna want to work with you”. Yatta yatta yatta...

What do you know? Have you ever met me? Where do you get off telling me what kind of person I am?

I think you are a young guy with a lot of potential, but IMO you have some character/ego/diva issue. This is what I get, and others are picking up on it too.
I didn't agree with you in another thread, and it bruised your ego. Maybe I did kind of take a cheep shot at you, but man up, you'll need to take those in life.

Nothing wrong with you being a leader, that is great, we always need leaders. But you come across very authoritarian dictator like. A good leader promotes good work ethic, promotes the best interest of everyone involved, makes people feel part of the bigger picture, be humble, your band mates are not your servants. Find leadership inspiration in guy's like Dave Grohl.

Thank you

 

[CornNutz]

 

[crankyrayhanky]

People said (based on your writing style) that you sound like an egomaniac.

Okay, well I’m a good person. I’m not an egomaniac.

You may want to revisit your writing style then so it reflects this

Also, if you get frustrated here you may throw your cpu against the wall dealing with the flood of craigslist jokers. They will test you to the core

 

[Metlupass2]

Post nudes of yourself. That's what I do with all my Craigslist ads

 

[skullfxr]

People said (based on your writing style) that you sound like an egomaniac.

Okay, well I’m a good person. I’m not an egomaniac.

Okay, well I'm a shitty person. I'm not an egomaniac. Two different things.

I think you need to reevaluate your writing style. You DEFINITELY do sound like an egomaniac. Also you don't seem to handle even basic conflict well. And this thread barely would qualify for conflict.

 

[UltraGary]

Don't spend too much time on all of this 'pre-thinking' stuff.

To put it simply:
*Just play with people until you find the right people.
*Regardless of how much $ you're putting into it, it'll only be "your band" if you pay people to do what you want, including rehearsals (& the gas to get to them) Anything short of that...be ready to allow others to have a sense of ownership too. The world is full of engines who think that the tires need them to roll.

 

[IHateRap]

Get used to people quitting. Good luck.

 

[BigGuitars]

I’ll be honest. All I really want is to make my own music that I’m feeling, recording it, and releasing it. I don’t care about being a big time rockstar or making tons of money. I just want to establish myself in some form or fashion. Make an impact and develop a fanbase, no matter how tiny. That would be a success for me.

 

[Monomyth]

The first reply from Cnut was correct for building a house, the foundation is there, music is art. What you're wanting is to hire prostitutes when you could be making love.......and friendship

 

[UltraGary]

The first reply from Cnut was correct for building a house, the foundation is there, music is art. What you're wanting is to hire prostitutes when you could be making love.......and friendship

^^well said!^^

 

[splatter]

regardless of the add you write your gonna attract some loses. Some you will spot and some you won't till after they have been in the band for a month or 2 and walk off.
Yes all bands need a leader but there needs to be some democracy in there as well .If its gonna be "your band " and your gonna have the "final say " in everything then you better have more than enough skill to back it up . This means you need to be the front man and a damn good one. Other wise the front man (where ego's abound) will not stick around when things don't go his way. Or if you are a mediocre front man the rest of the band won't stay either.
Also your arpggios sound good but it takes alot more than that .

 

[skullfxr]

If you want 'your' band. Write an album,have session players record it with you then hire everyone else. You will have to pay for rehearsal time, gigs, provide a practice spot, and possibly a back line...

OR

Surrender your authoritarian ways and play in a band and go through all of the ups and downs like most have. That would require you give into others input.

I don't think it would be successful with the first option unless you want to dump money and you will still probably have a rotating lineup because people realize that people won't want to deal with you, or are just there for a paycheck.

If you are capable of writing an album, do it and go from there.

Me personally? I would rather have a good time and not waste money on a hired band. My personal choice is to play open mics once in a while, and get my two free draught beers and have a fun night. If I don't feel like doing it, I won't. There ARE a lot of jackasses at some but you will always find some cool guys to play with.

I (personally) would rather have a good time playing music than being a authoritarian dictatator (generally stunting creativity of a group) just so I can call it 'mine' and make every decision myself for four other people.

I have a feeling more successful bands have started naturally and WILL continue to start naturally than under a hired band with a control freak writing checks and having it their and ONLY their way.