Where's the mids?? I hear hardly any. The high end isn't really too bright, it's more the character of the high end I'm talking about, dry, harsh... it's not pleasant sounding. I don't know if it would sit in a mix that well with that boomy low end, but maybe. Certainly not a live mix though.
I’ve seen plenty of heavy bands live with tone similar to that cut through just fine, while hitting like a jackhammer, and thats the point of the scooped tone. Get the mids too high, you’ll lose much of that brutal percussion. It depends what sound/feel you’re going for. It’s another flavor that works if dialed in properly. You don’t want the bass to dominate, and you want the mids and highs balanced enough to still cut.
Ya, it works, but it's still got that fatiguing high end to it that i'm just not digging, plus the hollowness i'm hearing... just not my kinda tone at all. The playing is top notch though.
Ya, probably the settings and cab have more to do with it. Also, mic positioning could be the culprit??
Agreed... that’s not a word that gets thrown around much with a rectifier, “complex”, but I most certainly agree, there is a lot going on in the rectos gain and saturation, and that’s a great term for it. The Orange modern just absolutely crushes to me, just a flat out amazing tone. I think at the end of the day what ever demonstrated once again is how important the cab is in your overall tone. We beat that dead horse here and hopefully people see how much influence it has on your sound, which is why I have 5 4x12s haha! I’ve done several different reamps with different amps with this same mic and cab setup today and the results are all strikingly similar, they all fit in this sonic spectrum of tone, and that’s because of the cab I’m using. It’s so crucial, more crucial than the amp in my opinion.
Yes, you're right. A lot of recorded tones are very bright, but that is not all that works for metal. If you got a more midrange heavy tone you can get away with less high end than what you'd think. Also, most modern recordings are low passed too, not just high pass filtered. It's just to get rid of those annoying high frequencies that are in the upper spectrum, over 10k or so. A good tone should be balanced, but with less low end than you would think. You don't want to step on the bass guitar to much. You can still be brutal if that bass is doubling the guitars tightly to fill out the lows.
I think that sounds pretty vicious. Would cut like a knife in a mix. Also think that sounds very similar to a SLO.
Yes the cab is probably the most crucial element. A lot of high gain amps sound strikingly similar through the same cab.
Ya, i wouldn't call a rectifier a complex sounding amp, It's just a brutal sounding amp, kinda cold actually, which is why they worked so well for Meshuggah's earlier recordings, and I believe they used the rectififer model in the axe fx when they switched to modellers for a while. They really need a boost to sound their best too, but that's common knowledge by now.
Completely disagree. The red channel can be cold and not complex, but on my rev f/c triple the Orange channel is very warm, growly, thick and complex. I’ve been through pretty much all the high gain amps out there except a Larry and the rev f/c triple I have is one of the most complex and warm sounding high gain amps I’ve played on the Orange mode. The only ones I’ve played that are maybe more complex are my iic+, ‘89 SLO, Purpleface Protoype and my Naylor. If we’re talking about 3 channel Recto’s then it’s another story
Now there's a great recto tone, lots of low mids in that. You hear how much that bass is adding to the heaviness?? It's a great bass tone too.
Ya, i edited my post. I've heard a few examples of a complex recto tone, but they are really good at the cold, clinical sound.
The old revision Recto’s are every bit as good for rock as they are for metal, if not even better in some ways. I’ve been working with my friend on a Re-amping this whole week, his style is more punk and alt rock and my rev f/c triple recto has been sounding amazing for his stuff so far. You don’t hear guys talk about it much, but the green mode on channel 1 with the gain up high can sound killer for a super ballsy, aggressive rock tone (not metal) and that’s one of the sounds we’ve been using. Gonna try it again today but boosting it with my Klon. Although it’s a rock sound (not metal), it’s one of the more aggressive and bigger/heavier sounds I’ve had in its own way