Pole: Rule 15 of the Classifieds. Where to you stand?

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Rule 15 of the Classifieds. Where to you stand?

  • Keep it

    Votes: 13 31.7%
  • Trash it

    Votes: 12 29.3%
  • Doesn't matter to me

    Votes: 6 14.6%
  • WTH is Rule 15?

    Votes: 10 24.4%

  • Total voters
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War_in_D

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JBT floated the idea of a poll to see where the forum stands on Rule 15. Here it is. Vote and let your voice be heard*!!











*This in no way implies that your vote will count for anything. I just thought it might be fun to see what side of the fence you peeps fall on. 😎
 
It’s useful as a historical record for setting prices on items for sale. It might also be useful for wtb ads as people post what they have, same with trades. Only way I’d change it is a mandatory SOLD or NLL at the end or beginning of the title. I don’t really care unless the sold or no longer looking is at the bottom of a giant thread.
 
I'd say trash it and figure out a way to implement a feature for users to delete their own threads. Kind of annoying searching for something and seeing the results:

Sold
NO LONGER LOOKING
No longer for sale
TRADED
SOLD
Gonna keep it
Sold!

Or clicking on the add and it says randomly in the post "No longer for sale". I'd rather have my search return a few things or nothing than a couple pages of things that might go back to 2016. If it's that much of a hassle to enforce the rule, just get rid of it. Prices fluctuate so much that even stuff that sold last year let alone 2018 isn't relevant to todays prices.
 
I don't care one way or the other but my suggestion would be to bump that "Rules Thread" to the top and then hard sticky it so it doesn't get buried. TTT
 
Considering the fact that I've not received one single complaint since the "debate" was over 2 years ago, I'd say that conducting a poll now would be akin to looking for / creating a problem where there is none. The only correspondence I've received were apologies and feedback that the forum is easier-to-read / understand.

300 or so peeps have received notifications from me to fix their titles during this time. Again, none has complained. Some have apologised (as I mentioned - not necessary).

One member, who opposed the measure 2 years ago when it was being debated, decides to throw a hissy fit, disrespect a mod (receiving a temp ban) and all of a sudden we have a problem now?

I say no. Sorry, no. Tempted to close the thread 'cause I've been here before.

I conducted a poll due to "overwhelming demand" in June last year (price estimation for items up for trade - rule 6), acted upon the result even 'though I didn't agree with it (I promised I'd honour it regardless of the outcome) and whaddayaknow? I received all sorts of criticism for whatever the measure was thereafter. So yeah, I've learned this lesson.
 
Kind of annoying searching for something and seeing the results:

Sold
NO LONGER LOOKING
No longer for sale
TRADED
SOLD
Gonna keep it
Sold!

Or clicking on the add and it says randomly in the post "No longer for sale".
Of course, both the list you created there and the "random" status information in a post have been taken care of by the rule.

General (not aimed at you) getting-it-off-my-chest blowoff:

It's quite simply asking members to provide an item name and sale status. Wow. What an inconvenience, and in a for-sale ad no less. What'll they think of next?

I don't care one way or the other but my suggestion would be to bump that "Rules Thread" to the top and then hard sticky it so it doesn't get buried. TTT
I used to do that every day or as soon as it lost top spot. I'd then delete the bumping post.

Once compliance got to the point where I was only having to notify 1 person a week I figured the majority of advertisers "got it".

As for "and then hard sticky it", there's no way to do this; if one of the other stickies receives a response (usually the Canadian Classifieds one), the position is lost.
 
Not sure what rule 15 is, but recently for the first time I had listed a couple pedals here to sell.
Ended up selling elsewhere, no hits here.
Found I couldn't delete my ads?

Also, akin to TGP, ad's have a tendency to get buried quickly.
No good for selling like that, unless potential buyer is looking for something specific...

Anyways, looks like MM has been here already and this is how it is.
There are other avenues to sell gear.
Same opinion on TGP which is why I don't pay for their membership.

If you come across a pedal ad of mine or dcburn Mk.ii's, it is sold.
 
KISS ya'll...imo the approach to managing the Classifieds is KISS. No micromanaging. The way it is now is totally anti-thetical to Rig-Talk.
 
Same opinion on TGP which is why I don't pay for their membership.
I never do anything special to my ads there. I replace the price with SOLD! and change the FS marker to SOLD. Never an issue. Many things sell so much faster there that for me its worth the membership. I never hear about any "abide by rule 15" there...it might exist but there isn't a mod there that has chosen that hill to die on. Here it seems we do. This may be a first...Rig-Talk being more restrictive and Karen-ish than TGP.
 
Not really sure what the debate is about. Rule 15 doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
 
Of course, both the list you created there and the "random" status information in a post have been taken care of by the rule.

General (not aimed at you) getting-it-off-my-chest blowoff:

It's quite simply asking members to provide an item name and sale status. Wow. What an inconvenience, and in a for-sale ad no less. What'll they think of next?


You're missing the point I'm trying to make. I'd rather see no results than weed through 10 posts of something sold, no longer for sale or that someone decided to keep. I'm also not interested in seeing what a JCM800 sold for in 2017. Perhaps we could implement an archive forum like on TGP. Reach out to their team and ask what addon they use. Auto archive threads older than a few months in a subforum.
 
Everything was explained and debated 2 years ago here:

Rule #15 Offender - Retroactive

Considering the fact that I've not received one single complaint since the "debate" was over 2 years ago, I'd say that conducting a poll now would be akin to looking for / creating a problem where there is none. The only correspondence I've received were apologies and feedback that the forum is easier-to-read / understand.

300 or so peeps have received notifications from me to fix their titles during this time. Again, none has complained. Some have apologised (as I mentioned - not necessary).

One member, who opposed the measure 2 years ago when it was being debated, decides to throw a hissy fit, disrespect a mod (receiving a temp ban) and all of a sudden we have a problem now?

I say no. Sorry, no. Tempted to close the thread 'cause I've been here before.

Can't even remember what it was for, but I conducted a poll due to "overwhelming demand" a few years ago, acted upon the result even 'though I didn't agree with it (I promised I'd honour it regardless of the outcome) and whaddayaknow? I received all sorts of criticism for whatever the measure was thereafter. So yeah, I've learned this lesson.
You do realize this is a forum where every month there’s a School me on Recto’s thread….lol
 
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