Running out of rabbit holes

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BeZo said:
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TheGreatGreen said:
Running out of rabbit holes? Have you tried, I dunno… writing some good music?

**gets run the hell out of any forum where he suggests this**
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Sometimes i'm convinced i'm the only person on guitar forums that actually writes music, and we actually have different hobbies

Where everyone else obsesses over copying other peoples tones and music

And they're barely overlapping venn diagrams that are bunched together linguistically but not in reality

In fact, every time there's a VH/Brown sound thread, i'm more and more convinced of it - that there's actually two different activities happening here
 
DanTravis62 said:
Sometimes i'm convinced i'm the only person on guitar forums that actually writes music, and we actually have different hobbies

Where everyone else obsesses over copying other peoples tones and music

And they're barely overlapping venn diagrams that are bunched together linguistically but not in reality

In fact, every time there's a VH/Brown sound thread, i'm more and more convinced of it - that there's actually two different activities happening here
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Yeah dude I hear you. That's part of the reason I love guitar though. There's so many different aspects of it that there's always something new to dive into.

-work on technique
-obsess over figuring out someone else's sound
-work on writing your own stuff
-obsess over finding your own sound (imo this is the deepest rabbit hole because how are you going to find your own sound if you don't know about everything so you can pick what works for you?)

I like to think the gear obsession feeds the music obsession and vice versa. How are you going to experience all that sweet gear for yourself if you can't play everything you want through it, and how are you going to have good tone when you play all that stuff if you don't have the perfect signal chain, etc.?

I go back and fourth with it. For a while I'll try to write cool riffs, melodies, solos, and only think about that. Then I'll hop back on the gear train and, well, fuck writing anything, I'm busy working on producing the perfect power chord and palm mute tone, etc.

Gotta say it's a pretty fun merry go round though.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Yeah dude I hear you. That's part of the reason I love guitar though. There's so many different aspects of it that there's always something new to dive into.

-work on technique
-obsess over figuring out someone else's sound
-work on writing your own stuff
-obsess over finding your own sound (imo this is the deepest rabbit hole because how are you going to find your own sound if you don't know about everything so you can pick what works for you?)

I like to think the gear obsession feeds the music obsession and vice versa. How are you going to experience all that sweet gear for yourself if you can't play everything you want through it, and how are you going to have good tone when you play all that stuff if you don't have the perfect signal chain, etc.?

I go back and fourth with it. For a while I'll try to write cool riffs, melodies, solos, and only think about that. Then I'll hop back on the gear train and, well, fuck writing anything, I'm busy working on producing the perfect power chord and palm mute tone, etc.

Gotta say it's a pretty fun merry go round though.
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I guess it's my fault for assuming people are actually musicians out there on the interwebs, when it's mostly not :dunno:

I don't even think it's gear obsession or tone obsession, it's popular thing obsession

Hence the endless brown sound threads, endless "what were EVH's bowel movements like in 78?" threads, and very few "how can I come up with an original tone for my original vision?" threads
 
DanTravis62 said:
I guess it's my fault for assuming people are actually musicians out there on the interwebs, when it's mostly not :dunno:

I don't even think it's gear obsession or tone obsession, it's popular thing obsession

Hence the endless brown sound threads, endless "what were EVH's bowel movements like in 78?" threads, and very few "how can I come up with an original tone for my original vision?" threads
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Yeah, most folks probably aren't musicians in that sense but there are some around. It's still a community though and I like to think there's something to learn from everybody, and that most people in it root for each other no matter what their particular brand of obsession. As for me personally, I can't remember the last time I wrote a full song, with or without lyrics, but I write and riffs and melodies all the time. Maybe one day I'll move to stringing them together and calling them songs, lol. :D But for now I'm having fun.

The "popular thing" obsession is an interesting idea though, I guess it does explain all the flavor of the month gear that comes and goes. Part of it must be that some people just chase what's popular, but another part of it must be the feeling of "ok THIS new thing here will surely be the one missing link I've needed all this time, that will finally tie everything together." Also there's enough gear out there that it's easy to forget about it and get excited about it all over again when you're reminded of stuff you haven't thought about for a while, so the cycle kinda seems endless.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Yeah, most folks probably aren't musicians in that sense but there are some around. It's still a community though and I like to think there's something to learn from everybody, and that most people in it root for each other no matter what their particular brand of obsession.

The "popular thing" obsession is an interesting idea though, I guess it does explain all the flavor of the month gear that comes and goes. Part of it must be that some people just chase what's popular, but another part of it must be the feeling of "ok THIS new thing here will surely be the one missing link I've needed all this time, that will finally tie everything together." Also there's enough gear out there that it's easy to forget about it and get excited about it all over again when you're reminded of stuff you haven't thought about for a while, so the cycle kinda seems endless.
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What's interesting is the marketing hype and language makes EVERYONE think the new piece of gear that comes out every month will be the "missing link" when everyone is doing different things and trying to achieve different things
 
I am still on the speaker rabbit hole (Just a little bit), and the cable rabbit hole(s). What do I mean? I can hear the difference between silver and gold conductors apparently, and so can the others I have tested with live in the room. I will not be ordering anything with gold connectors, etc any longer. Plenty trails to get lost down if you are crazy like me.
 
DanTravis62 said:
What's interesting is the marketing hype and language makes EVERYONE think the new piece of gear that comes out every month will be the "missing link" when everyone is doing different things and trying to achieve different things
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Yup. Marketers are real good and promising the world and crafting language just enough that they're not technically lying. The funny thing is that people always seem to fall for it because they want to believe it's true, that this One Weird New Piece of Gear the Pros Don't Want You To Know About will finally be the last thing they'll need that makes them truly happy. At least until the next new thing comes out next week.

While like you said, everybody wants their own thing, and music is subjective.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Yup. Marketers are real good and promising the world and crafting language just enough that they're not technically lying. The funny thing is that people always seem to fall for it because they want to believe it's true, that this One Weird New Piece of Gear the Pros Don't Want You To Know About will finally be the last thing they'll need that makes them truly happy. At least until the next new thing comes out next week.

While like you said, everybody wants their own thing, and music is subjective.
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Weirdly, the only weird new pieces of (hardware) gear that have come out that are really amazing IMO are the power station and the bluguitar amp1, as far as stuff that changes the game

There have been a ton of really amazing software solutions for recording stuff, but noone here cares about stuff that actually makes them sound good on recording apparently lol

Well, except for that one guy whiteguitar or whatever who was convinced everyone was hiding the secret to good sounding recordings
 
DanTravis62 said:
Weirdly, the only weird new pieces of (hardware) gear that have come out that are really amazing IMO are the power station and the bluguitar amp1, as far as stuff that changes the game

There have been a ton of really amazing software solutions for recording stuff, but noone here cares about stuff that actually makes them sound good on recording apparently lol

Well, except for that one guy whiteguitar or whatever who was convinced everyone was hiding the secret to good sounding recordings
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You know, that seems like a pretty good answer to the question presented by the thread. What happens when you run out of guitar rabbit holes? Start looking into guitar-adjacent rabbit holes, like recording.

I mean microphones alone could take a person years to work through.
 
DanTravis62 said:
Sometimes i'm convinced i'm the only person on guitar forums that actually writes music, and we actually have different hobbies

Where everyone else obsesses over copying other peoples tones and music

And they're barely overlapping venn diagrams that are bunched together linguistically but not in reality

In fact, every time there's a VH/Brown sound thread, i'm more and more convinced of it - that there's actually two different activities happening here
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Oh absolutely. Go over to TGP for another activity—buying gear so you can take artsy pics of it posed around your couch.

At least RT’ers actually play the guitar
 
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