Russia deploys hypersonic ‘Oreshnik’ ballistic missile

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Source for both claims? I have heard that maybe the THAAD system is capable of intercepting a warhead or two, but A) the US only has something like 8 of these systems, four of which are in the Continental USA and B) it is impossible that they could intercept all the multiple warheads AND decoys for a given missile, let alone multiple missiles. I also think it is unlikely that Russia would allow one of these systems to be placed anywhere near Ukraine.
It's also not possible for the new Russian missiles to get anywhere near the US.
 
Furthermore:

"Essentially, all ballistic missiles are hypersonic – which means they travel at least five times the speed of sound. Almost any warhead released from a rocket miles in the atmosphere will reach this speed heading to its target. It is not a new technology.

What military powers – including Russia, China, the United States and North Korea – are working on now is a hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV). An HGV is a highly maneuverable payload that can theoretically fly at hypersonic speed while adjusting course and altitude to fly under radar detection and around missile defenses.

An HGV is the weapon that’s almost impossible to stop. And Russia is thought to have an HGV in its arsenal, the Avangard system, which Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2018 called “practically invulnerable” to Western air defenses."

But the Kinzhal, as a variant of the Iskander SRBM, is not an HGV. While it does have limited maneuverability like the Iskander, its main advantage is that it can be launched from MiG-31 fighter jets, giving it a longer range and the ability to attack from multiple directions, according to a report last year from the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

“The MiG-31K can strike from unpredictable directions and could avoid interception attempts altogether. The flying carrier vehicle might also be more survivable than the road-mobile Iskander system,” the report said.

The same report also noted that the ground-launched Iskander proved vulnerable to missile defense systems during the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war, during which Azeri forces intercepted an Armenian Iskander.

“This suggests that claims of the Kinzhal’s invulnerability to missile defense systems may also be somewhat exaggerated,” the report said.
 
:rolleyes:
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releas...-completes-flight-test-of-hypersonic-missile/

https://apnews.com/article/navy-hyp...china-russia-ec3272a36042796518aec665a4e65df3


The U.S. has had several types of hypersonic weapons in development for the past two decades, but recent tests by both Russia and China have added pressure to the U.S. military to hasten their production.
The US doesn't have a hypersonic. When they complete development of this missile or can demonstrate it works in an ongoing conflict then we can stay they US has a hypersonic.
 
It's also not possible for the new Russian missiles to get anywhere near the US.
I'm not sure that's true. The Orishnek has a big brother and far East Russia might put the West Coast in range.
 
The US doesn't have a hypersonic. When they complete development of this missile or can demonstrate it works in an ongoing conflict then we can stay they US has a hypersonic.
So unless we fire it at an enemy it doesn't exist ? 🤣🤣🤣


Again, dude, ALL ballistic missiles are hypersonic, the thing that has changed is the delivery system. Which we absolutely have tested and are deploying.
 
So unless we fire it at an enemy it doesn't exist ? 🤣🤣🤣


Again, dude, ALL ballistic missiles are hypersonic, the thing that has changed is the delivery system. Which we absolutely have tested and are deploying.
I said unless development is complete or it's proven itself in a combat setting, like the Orishnek, then you can't really claim to have a hypersonic. Maybe the US missile is close or at completion but I didn't get that from your articles. And btw I didn't see anything in your links about US defense capabilities regarding hypersonics. Did I miss it?

Yes, all ballistics are hypersonic but we are discussing those that can maneuver at hypersonic speeds. For what it's worth, I understand that it is very difficult to intercept ANY ballistic missile achieving hypersonic speeds in the terminal phase.
 
The reason that the oreshnik is such a game changer is because it is a highly destructive and unstoppable, yet non-nuclear weapon that cover all of Europe. That means Kiev's (Or NATO, London, etc.) command centers and bases are potentially at risk.
 
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Sinister shit... all of this.

Look what we've become... or have always been. :no:
 
You guys are putting a lot of weight on claims by a nation that is having to revitalize hundreds of tanks that were mothballed in the 1950s.
Russia is BROKE. They have no money to develop HGVs or air breathing hypersonics.

Here's your stealth fighter bro.
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The US is broke 🤷‍♂️
True, but the US has spend close to a trillion dollars (adjusted) every year on defense for the past 40 years. Last year it spent more than China, Russia, India, Saudi Arabia, the UK, Germany, Ukraine, France and Japan combined. No one is in the same universe as the US military.
Every time someone from the defense dept whines about some country having a greater capability is just to get more tax money. They do shit like arrange high PR fighter competitions and purposefully lose in order to get more money.
China is the only one remotely close and has only been that way for about 5 years. They were spending less than 90 billion (adjusted) per year in 2010.

Russia constantly lies/overstates their capabilities, always has. The US always understates. China is a lot smarter than Russia in that they don't say much about what they are working on or have.
 
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