Seems Marshall new ownership starting the downward slide to make more money.

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Arch Stanton said:
I think they really mean it this time.
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I had a small Hammond PT for a build that was noisy as fuck until I adjusted the endbells and then it was just fine.
But in a full working amp, that shit made it past QC..

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The issue is people outside the EU consider Marshall a high-end / boutique brand because the distributors have marketed them that way and marked up the prices to a ridiculous extent. The 1959HW amps are $1800 or less in their home market (I've bought 2 new 1959HWs from Germany for that this year) and the 2203X are even cheaper.

I also don't think this had anything to do with the buyout. I got one of my 59s in March and it already had the new transformers. This had clearlly been in the works for a while. I'd guess Dagnall was shutting down and Marshall was already winding the transformers for other amps there and just moved everything in house.

It's going to make a great topic for youtube rants for a while and drive up used Marshall prices though. Congrats to Jason for snagging the traffic first lol
 
burger said:
Fine. Once I hit the PT with a hammer to get rid of the 1KHz ring.
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Friedman and Tramble both pointed out on your recent amp chat they've gotten transformers with that issue from Heyboer and Mercury before, so not like that is something that never happens in the industry lol
 
technomancer said:
The issue is people outside the EU consider Marshall a high-end / boutique brand because the distributors have marketed them that way and marked up the prices to a ridiculous extent. The 1959HW amps are $1800 or less in their home market (I've bought 2 new 1959HWs from Germany for that this year) and the 2203X are even cheaper.

I also don't think this had anything to do with the buyout. I got one of my 59s in March and it already had the new transformers. This had clearlly been in the works for a while. I'd guess Dagnall was shutting down and Marshall was already winding the transformers for other amps there and just moved everything in house.

It's going to make a great topic for youtube rants for a while and drive up used Marshall prices though. Congrats to Jason for snagging the traffic first lol
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I didn’t know dagnall was shutting down, where did you find that?
 
lespaul6 said:
I didn’t know dagnall was shutting down, where did you find that?
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I could be entirely wrong on that, I thought I saw they were no longer doing amp transformers.

Jason also said something about Dagnall being gone, but he may have just meant in Marshalls.
 
Thankfully there are a handful of quality amp builders making primo stuff with cool modified tones already on board.
IMO Marshall kinda went south when they started with the 800 pots being attached to the boards. A lot of the reissues sound close to the originals but end up shy.
I think Jason basically made a PSA. It’s good to know where your hard earned money is going.

Kinda akin to Gibson labeling Chinese made guitars Gibson USA. Since most people never look inside their amps.

If that transformer making noise now is it going to hold up over time.
 
ClintN667 said:
Marshall have shutdown all R&D for new amps and fired half of their R&D. Everyone was seeing this coming. It's going to be a lifestyle brand. They make more on earphones, refrigerators, etc than they do on actual guitar stuff.
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Probably a smart move business wise.
 
Tone Junkie said:
Kinda akin to Gibson labeling Chinese made guitars Gibson USA. Since most people never look inside their amps.
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When you think about it, it’s a perfect marriage. Both China and Gibson are the embodiment of shortcuts and facades. I’ve seen enough Gibsons with tofu-dreg construction.
 
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