Tariff Day 4/2/25

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The~Kid said:
Right on and agree with you on a lot of points but all I'm saying is facts are facts.


I just don't see outside of Woke circles people arguing basic facts or basic terminology over things that aren't that complicated. Did basic math change in the past 5-10 years or something and it's not so hard to understand a trade deficit or add and subtract basic numbers.


Regardless and nevermind that maybe one can argue this and that right and that is another story but the facts are the US is in a trade deficit with Canada and that is all I'm really trying to say and those are facts.
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A trade deficit in itself isn't necessarily bad if it's costing us less overall than the deficit to utilize technologies, services, and goods from our partners. But it's not with most and never has been a good long term solution to anything. There can be a dynamic healthy trade deficit, but there isn't one. It's literally the same crap instead of filling voids where needed from year to year.

Americans would literally be thousands of dollars wealthier per capita every year if we stopped importing goods from the big offenders. That doesn't even begin to take into consideration internal economic growth over the long term. We've turned ourselves into a service economy and we manufacture intellectual property, that's about it. The latter won't last forever and really does no good for the common person.

I don't care about the Orange Man, and people claiming that's where I'm getting my information from is ridiculous and stupidly partisan. This has been a problem long before him, and we kept kicking it down the road. The real problem is that we as a nation are 100% set to go bankrupt in less than a decade. I don't care about inflation because I won't notice the effects. What I care about is long term stability in a world that is getting smaller by the day.

Orange Man got stuck with this problem and will be blamed for any and everything, but it's a guarantee that the globalist puppet Democrats would have continued to line their pockets until the end pretending to care while everyone else is left holding the bag. To me it's not personal against anyone. This has to be done or we won't be able to help ourselves in the future let alone anyone else. Most people who have a problem with what is happening are those who are losing the ability to bleed us dry. A lot of those people are Americans and they can fuck off as well. The others are just misguided and/or entitled.
 
The problem is, nothing is going to add millions of new good paying jobs. Technology, robots and AI will build these items on American soil. The winner will be the corporate overlords, just as it has been for the past fifty years.
 
Beta male soy boy cuck 67mike with the gay snake with dicks avatar is super unhinged due to Liberation Day! :ROFLMAO:
 
what ignorant people like CNN and MSDNC watchers don't realize that is all about leverage.
Trump is very good at leverage.
we're holding the cards., They will cave in to our demands and the tariffs will be lifted just as fast.

I cant see this lasting but about 2-3 weeks
 
70 Mach 1 said:
what ignorant people like CNN and MSDNC watchers don't realize that is all about leverage.
Trump is very good at leverage.
we're holding the cards., They will cave in to our demands and the tariffs will be lifted just as fast.

I cant see this lasting but about 2-3 weeks
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You can’t run a government the way you run a construction site. They may work something out in the short term, but long term these countries will look to other markets. At the very least, they will explore their options going forward.

A much wiser option would have been to get debt forgiven for past missed NATO contributions. Reduce the debt, make no enemies.
 
BUT TARIFFS!!!!!

These are a couple orders from Mouser & Digikey I placed earlier today. I got hit with a whopping $3.99 in extra costs because of these tariffs. What ever will I do! This is going to break me! I think I'm going to burn a Tesla!

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Granted this is only 1 example, but if this will be roughly the norm I doubt the average consumer would even feel the extra costs. When you compare it to the sky high inflation over the past 4 years then take into account current inflation is 2.8%, it's even more of just a drop in the bucket. Of course people are going to bitch and moan about it when it's pointed out. But an extra couple of cents built into the price; I doubt even the people bitching would even notice. Shit, regular sales tax and shipping is more than the tariff.

I've said it before, I'll put up with this kind of minor inconvenience if it means bringing production back to the US thus creating more jobs, reducing overall taxes, and a general growth in US economy. That all adds up to more money kept in my pocket.
 
njshred said:
You can’t run a government the way you run a construction site. They may work something out in the short term, but long term these countries will look to other markets. At the very least, they will explore their options going forward.

A much wiser option would have been to get debt forgiven for past missed NATO contributions. Reduce the debt, make no enemies.
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you must be a canadian or a sweed.
 
67mike said:
Giver buddy. Believe me....I would save a ton of money if there was free trade on dairy products....much much much cheaper in US.

We are going to tarrif the oil, natural gas, electricity, etc... that you buy. Works both ways. No one wins.

The US is hated in many countries around the world , wonder why???
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Please tell “ many countries around the world” that we don’t care, and that I said to fuck off.
 
njshred said:
You can’t run a government the way you run a construction site. They may work something out in the short term, but long term these countries will look to other markets. At the very least, they will explore their options going forward.
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Lol what are you talking about brother this country has been run like a construction site until now with inefficiency, employee theft, and corruption on the part of the contractors.
 
psychodave said:
Look at the Tariffs imposed on the USA.
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Honestly yeah it's BS and it's been BS for the longest time. In Econ for example we were taught Tariffs were bad and they were bad for the economy because we are a service driven economy and that's just the way it was due to Globalization, even the most right and Republican teacher would tell you so and it was just conventional wisdom. It never made sense to me because even in school your taught other countries tariff us and we don't tariff them and it's normal. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to compete with the United States and that is why they do it and why the United States allowed it out of good will in a sense to promote global free trade........ or that's the basic idea.


I kind of got chewed out even though I was one of the better students in the class and the Professor would always give me props for my questions and answers but he didn't like my question regarding tariffs and I always insisted it didn't make sense.


While tariffs boost domestic production and domestic purchases of goods made in the States the Professor said it overall just was bad for the economy and would drive demand down as it's a service driven economy and the prices would rise on foreign made goods bringing GDP down vs up overall......... I couldn't really explain it but something told me that was BS and it was a subject and one of the only subject we disagreed on so I let it go.


I figure that yes cost of stuff would go up but also standards of living would as well as more jobs would come back and people would have access to more decent jobs vs just service driven jobs........ and well that's the plan and it's working with companies already pouring millions and billions into America to manufacture here and bring good jobs back to the average person.



Normally what the Professor said is right as I've pointed out before in a historically normal 2% inflation economy but this economy isn't normal and inflation isn't at a normal 2%. Since it's higher than normal while Trumps Tarrifs would push demand down in a normal economy and kill it, in an inflated economy the tariffs work like the Feds higher interest rates to bring down demand down and therefore inflation down.


So normally if you did this the transition would be tough and IMO still necessary but in this inflated economy the President is allowed to implement tariffs without it being bad for the economy or bringing demand down to unsustainable levels. It's actually good because it brings jobs back and manufacturing back to the States and helps bring down inflation too. Two birds with one stone.



Economically speaking it's like a "Madman Theory" or approach to Economics without actually being a "Madman".
 
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And probably no other President has been in a unique position with inflation as we have now to do something like this without the traditional issues that come with Tariffs......

Given inflation the Tariffs are not as bad as most think they will be as it will bring demand and inflation down which is needed in the economy right now and they bring actual decent jobs back to your average American and people here in the States.


And I mean nvm the whole world tariffs the US because if they didn't they wouldn't be able to compete with America in their own domestic markets. America has let them compete here in the States without Tariffs for decades upon decades exporting the good jobs to them and importing the crappy jobs to us......



The BS stops now and its over.
 
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