
shar-vell Dan
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1982 G12-80 444 cones Rola cab w/a stock 78 JMP 2203 w/ 6550's years ago.
The G12-80 I have (1777) does not sound like a Classic Lead 80. 2 different flavorsNo, those are the 85's.
These are Classic Lead 80's, pretty much.
Neither do old T-75's compared to new T-75's. The biggest difference I can see is these have a vent, but so do old 75's.The G12-80 I have (1777) does not sound like a Classic Lead 80. 2 different flavors
The CL 80 sounds like a modern bland lifeless version of the Rola 1777 g12-80 to me. Both are 1777. I think I even prefer the Mesa MC 90 (again based on the rola 1777 g12-80) over the CL 80. It’s similarly bland sounding but fatter and warmer with more balls.The G12-80 I have (1777) does not sound like a Classic Lead 80. 2 different flavors
1982 G12-80 444 cones Rola cab w/a stock 78 JMP 2203 w/ 6550's years ago.
Yeah the vented ‘80’s T-75’s I had sounded like a higher wattage Greenback to me. The ‘80’s non-vented version that came after sounded more like a better version of the recent made ones with that more scooped soundNeither do old T-75's compared to new T-75's. The biggest difference I can see is these have a vent, but so do old 75's.
Zactly >The CL 80 sounds like a modern bland lifeless version of the Rola 1777 g12-80 to me. Both are 1777. I think I even prefer the Mesa MC 90 (again based on the rola 1777 g12-80) over the CL 80. It’s similarly bland sounding but fatter and warmer with more balls.
That’s the tone. Do you still have the clip with those speakers where you played a Rush riff?
Congrats. Thats how a guitar forum is suppose to work >I made an offer that was accepted on a quad of matched 1979 G12-80’s / 16ohm / 444 cones on the recommendation of a Rig-Talk senior member here.
Dan’s tone in the video sounds great too.
Should have them in a week or so?
happy the thread spawned a purchase haha, hope you enjoy the speakers dudeI made an offer that was accepted on a quad of matched 1979 G12-80’s / 16ohm / 444 cones on the recommendation of a Rig-Talk senior member here.
Dan’s tone in the video sounds great too.
Should have them in a week or so?
happy the thread spawned a purchase haha, hope you enjoy the speakers dude
Yep, very different. CL80s can sound good; I've heard some nice clips of them by others. I had a 4104 combo with them and didn't care for them much. CL80s have more mids than the G12 80s from what I remember.The G12-80 I have (1777) does not sound like a Classic Lead 80. 2 different flavors
I have a cab from 88 with the non vented next versions....they actually have good mids. A little darker than the vented versions but surprisingly not that far off.Yeah the vented ‘80’s T-75’s I had sounded like a higher wattage Greenback to me. The ‘80’s non-vented version that came after sounded more like a better version of the recent made ones with that more scooped sound
I’ve directly compared the ‘80’s vented and non-vented that came after both as full quads in my Kerry Wright and compared isolated outside of a cab and found the non-vented ones a lot more scooped and with more lows and highs. I liked them overall about equally, just different. The vented one was GB-ish, the non-vented closer to the T75's that came after. In either case, I find neither are really needed vs the top tier vintage speakers, but very good for the priceI have a cab from 88 with the non vented next versions....they actually have good mids. A little darker than the vented versions but surprisingly not that far off.
I remember the CL80's being quite a bit more scooped (long time ago now), but they weren't my favorites either. Rex Rocker may be on to something with his post about both the vented T75's and vented G12-80's being more midrange-y than their non-vented counterparts (CL80 being non-vented) being more scoopedYep, very different. CL80s can sound good; I've heard some nice clips of them by others. I had a 4104 combo with them and didn't care for them much. CL80s have more mids than the G12 80s from what I remember.
Keep in mind they’re not particularly mix friendly speakers.I also have on the way now a pair of 444 cone G12-80's. It'll be up against some very steep competition against some of my other vintage speakers, but will be curious to see how they fare