That didn't take long...Elon And WEF Vivek push for more H1B visa foreign engineering and tech workers......

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VonBonfire said:
It's a society of spoiled little brats who think they are entitled to everything now.
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No it's a society ran by billionaires who think they're entitled to every tax dollar you pay including your social security.
 
Bloodrock said:
So you'd rather your tax dollars go to tax breaks for the rich and subsidies for billionaires, rather than use it to educate kids?
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I agree, but that's a matter of priorities, not rights.
 
acceptance said:
I agree, but that's a matter of priorities, not rights.
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I'd still like one person to explain how giving government handouts to billionaires is OK, but helping out the middle class or poor even the slightest is abhorrent.
 
Bloodrock said:
No it's a society ran by billionaires who think they're entitled to every tax dollar you pay including your social security.
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You sound like you think you are entitled to the same type freebies. You'd make a good billionaire.
 
VonBonfire said:
You sound like you think you are entitled to the same type freebies. You'd make a good billionaire.
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Not talking about ME. You have to consider everyone in society, not just yourself. Which apparently is a foreign concept to you. All people think about is themselves these days, and it's pretty pathetic.
 
Bloodrock said:
Not talking about ME. You have to consider everyone in society, not just yourself. Which apparently is a foreign concept to you. All people think about is themselves these days, and it's pretty pathetic.
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Yes, all you think about is yourself and how those who have more OWE you free medical, dental, and whatever other bullshit you can think of. Communism doesn't work brougham.
 
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VonBonfire said:
Yes, all you think about is yourself and how those who have more OWE you free medical, dental, and whatever other bullshit you can think of. Communism doesn't work brougham.
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Universal Healthcare isn't free genius. It's funded by our tax dollars and would eliminate for profit insurance companies, making things better for everyone. You still don't get it.
 
Bloodrock said:
Universal Healthcare isn't free genius. It's funded by our tax dollars and would eliminate for profit insurance companies, making things better for everyone. You still don't get it.
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No it wouldn't. Ask any Canadian. At any given time there are 400 of them in Minnesota getting a medical procedure done.
 
Laputan Machine said:
Musk is now banning people on Twitter that are critical of this position. What an absolute bag of shit.
Democrats flood the country with people lowering wages of lower class workers, conservitard/lolbertarians flood the country with people lowering wages of middle class workers. Awesome.
They want something like 400k H1b jobs per year...so that's 400k native citizens that won't be getting well paying jobs. 400k citizens that spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in education here and are part of American culture, vs. a bunch of people that spent far less (over half of which cheat) at dubious universities so they can lean on them super hard at work (if you don't work our 80 hours a week, you'll lose your visa...) for 80k a year instead of 140k a year.

Neither seems to have any inkling of the effect this has on the majority of people paying the taxes that makes this country function, making them become more and more hopeless and just checking out of society. Good luck selling a 150k Tesla when no one can afford a 35k Ford.
Swami and Musk want bug people and bug society, they should go live in China or India.
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I guess now we see why Elon and WEF Vivek wormed their way into the Trump campaign....they had to make sure Trump really didn't enforce strict immigration laws otherwise American talent would cost them more money and benefits.

Why pay Americans market wages when you can just import indentured serf/servants/slaves.
 
Bloodrock said:
So you'd rather your tax dollars go to tax breaks for the rich and subsidies for billionaires, rather than use it to educate kids?
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If you haven't noticed those billionaires have bought off the politicians on both sides of the aisle....that's why America's healthcare system extracts all your wealth while you are dying and social security has no trust fund since all the politicians spent it all already and then had the Federal Reserve print what ever they wanted since 1971 and they continue to print money out of thin air almost like they are trying to bankrupt the nation beyond repair. Meanwhile your entire government is fully opted out of Obamacare and they are all investing geniuses that beat the market every year for ROI.

Did you see any Republicans trying to stop the Democrats from violating Federal immigration law already on the books????? NOPE you did not....because the billionaires need to collapse the current system to bring in their CBDC survielliance social credit system like they have in CHINA. Now if you needed to bankrupt all Western nations through the welfare system and screw over the actual citizens of those countries you would do exactly whats being done and it doesn't matter which team you are on... Red or Blue.

Did Barack Obama stop the middle east WAR on terror???? NO he did not because the NEO CON Uniparty likes WARS and destabilation of the arab nations driving migration that destabilizes Europe and the UK and it is the excuse of why the American citizens don't have a decent health system, pension like in France, Germany and the EU did for the last 50 years. The American people are being played and have been since at least 1913 regardless of party affiliation.


The United States Spends More on Defense than the Next 9 Countries Combined​

https://www.pgpf.org/article/the-un...n-defense-than-the-next-9-countries-combined/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/
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harddriver said:
If you haven't noticed those billionaires have bought off the politicians on both sides of the aisle....that's why America's healthcare system extracts all your wealth while you are dying and social security has no trust fund since all the politicians spent it all already and then had the Federal Reserve print what ever they wanted since 1971 and they continue to print money out of thin air almost like they are trying to bankrupt the nation beyond repair. Meanwhile your entire government is fully opted out of Obamacare and they are all investing geniuses that beat the market every year for ROI.

Did you see any Republicans trying to stop the Democrats from violating Federal immigration law already on the books????? NOPE you did not....because the billionaires need to collapse the current system to bring in their CBDC survielliance social credit system like they have in CHINA. No if you needed to bankrupt all Western nations through the welfare system and screw over the actual citizens of those countries you would do exactly whats being done and it doesn't matter which team you are one.. Red or Blue.

Did Barack Obama stop the middle east WAR on terror???? NO he did not because the NEO CON Uniparty likes WARS and destabilation of the arab nations driving migration that destabilizes Europe and the UK and it is the excuse of why the American citizens don't have a decent health system, pension like in France, Germany and the EU did for the last 50 years. The American people are being played and have been since at least 1913 regardless of party affiliation.


The United States Spends More on Defense than the Next 9 Countries Combined​

https://www.pgpf.org/article/the-un...n-defense-than-the-next-9-countries-combined/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/
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Outstanding post.
 
Bloodrock said:
Universal Healthcare isn't free genius. It's funded by our tax dollars and would eliminate for profit insurance companies, making things better for everyone. You still don't get it.
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I have relatives in the UK and the system worked for about 20-25 years after WWII then the austerity and the death panels kicked in as the system quietly went bankrupt as medicare is going bankrupt now. My UK relatives who are in their late 70's cannot even get in to see a doctor in person since 2020. And the SYSTEM keeps putting off procedures that need to be done making whatever excuses they can to avoid them, but if they want it done faster they can pay a private doctor out of their pocket since the system denies the care they need hoping they die before receiving what they need.

That is how the billionaires balance the budgets and keep $$$$$ in their pockets, look at Greece, Italy, the UK and soon Germany,France and the rest of the EU will follow suit. When you don't have the money to pay for the social contracts with the citizens what do the goverments do? I'll let you think about that one.

The Oligarchs have legislated a system that extracts the wealth of the common citizens, via tax, estate tax, property tax, death tax, nursing homes while they have tax attorney's and loopholes which benefit them and their estates and wealth are passed to their families untaxed by the very same estate laws. Essentially they privatize the profits and socialize the losses........if anyone remembers the 2008 financial crisis, name me one bank or bank employees that served jail time for defrauding the world with the derivatives market??????? I think Iceland was the only country that actually charged some bankers with crimes.
 
harddriver said:
The Oligarchs have legislated a system that extracts the wealth of the common citizens, via tax, estate tax, property tax, death tax, nursing homes while they have tax attorney's and loopholes which benefit them and their estates and wealth are passed to their families untaxed by the very same estate laws. Essentially they privatize the profits and socialize the losses........if anyone remembers the 2008 financial crisis, name me one bank or bank employees that served jail time for defrauding the world with the derivatives market??????? I think Iceland was the only country that actually charged some bankers with crimes.
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harddriver said:
I have relatives in the UK and the system worked for about 20-25 years after WWII then the austerity and the death panels kicked in as the system quietly went bankrupt as medicare is going bankrupt now. My UK relatives who are in their late 70's cannot even get in to see a doctor in person since 2020. And the SYSTEM keeps putting off procedures that need to be done making whatever excuses they can to avoid them, but if they want it done faster they can pay a private doctor out of their pocket since the system denies the care they need hoping they die before receiving what they need.

That is how the billionaires balance the budgets and keep $$$$$ in their pockets, look at Greece, Italy, the UK and soon Germany,France and the rest of the EU will follow suit. When you don't have the money to pay for the social contracts with the citizens what do the goverments do? I'll let you think about that one.

The Oligarchs have legislated a system that extracts the wealth of the common citizens, via tax, estate tax, property tax, death tax, nursing homes while they have tax attorney's and loopholes which benefit them and their estates and wealth are passed to their families untaxed by the very same estate laws. Essentially they privatize the profits and socialize the losses........if anyone remembers the 2008 financial crisis, name me one bank or bank employees that served jail time for defrauding the world with the derivatives market??????? I think Iceland was the only country that actually charged some bankers with crimes.
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My son and his family live overseas, and as messed up as their system is, it still works better than our for profit system. It costs nothing to give birth and prescriptions are 5% of what they cost here. As much as I like pissing off MAGA I'm sill very centrist. I hate the fact that our entire govt is beholden to billionaires and people just sit by while we become an oligarchy. They're dividing us for their benefit and it's disgusting, but you can't convince anyone on either side to even consider they might be wrong nowdays. You either choose a side or be an outcast. Common sense and critical thinking be damned!
 
Geo said:
Pouring more money into a failed education and health system is not common sense. It's the definition of insanity.
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The US education system is failing because they want to keep you stupid and indoctrinated to religion and fear. Good grief WHY would anyone be AGAINST educating people to create a better life for themselves?! Billionaires who want to rule you, that's who..
 
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