The more things change...

[jcj]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

This is a free speech type of place, so please, tell your story..... I'll even start....here's what I know....Mark either took deposits or payment in full on 14 CCVs that were never delivered, and there are 4 amp mod's he's had for years, that haven't beem delivered.

That's the truth as I know it; what's your story?

If you have something to add, toss it out....no need to be cryptic, let's keep the info public, and accurate. Mark has enough issues to fill a magazine rack, but being a drug addict isn't one of them, so please don't throw out speculation as truth.

Until you tell your story, you haven't "motherfucking told" us anything.....I'm surprised you're unwilling to share your situation publicly....Nick, Jay, Steve, and EVH fan are all very upfront with their issues, and all very credible....I certainly don't see any negative to getting your story out....I'm personally very curious.....

 

[King Guitar]

I want to throw out that Mark is a very pleasant guy when your with him and he would need to be to keep rolling along. I understand there is allot of hard feelings from guys and they are justified. Nick I hope you get made whole as I do the rest of the guys here who bought in before I came along. That said anyone who bought one of the Cameron amps on my watch is good to go and yes they are that good. Maybe we should add a Logo delete option or a POW/MIA logo to the back plates. Josh you are a good guy and have always been helpful to all involved and I appreciate that a ton. I don't dislike Mark I am rather disappointed in him but not so much any more as my expectations are in check. We hope he will choose to design more products so we can get them out in the world but who knows at this point. Time will tell, that said the CCV, Atomica, Old Bitch and couple other designs are under way and you can get your legit Cameron fix with out the drama which is what everyone wanted in the first place.

 

[rlord1974]

Hey Brad:

You know I'm one of your customers, have received my CCV, and having nothing but good things to say about the quality of the products you're putting out and the trustworthiness of the business you, Rob and Dave are now running.

All that being said, I feel for you guys and all of the negative attacks and Internet "bad press" you have to triage on what seems to be a daily basis. Launching a business is challenging enough without having to deal with these issues.

I don't pretend to know the exact nature of your contract with Mark Cameron, nor do I or anyone else on this board or anywhere else have a right to these details. However, if there IS the latitude in your arrangement with Mark to issue these designs under a name other than "Cameron", I believe it is an option you and your partners should consider.

I could care less whether my CCV had "Cameron" on the front panel or any other brand name. Knowing it was Mark's design - and hearing how good it sounds with my ears - is all that really matters. Issuing these designs under a new brand name would allow you to distance yourselves from this legacy nonsense once and for all, and hopefully give you guys a better chance of accomplishing what it is you set out to do.

I truly wish you, Rob and Dave nothing but success in 2012 and beyond.

Happy holidays.

 

[Odin]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

Dude......you are free to talk about Cameron, the person or the amps all you want to. But, cool it with the "fanbois and cheerleader" shit, why don't you? I happen to like Mark's amps and work, all of which were purchased second hand, by the way. So, if you are taking a direct shot toward me and a few others and that won't last very much longer.

Steve

Not at all. I am also a fan of Cameron's amps. I'd live to own a CCV, and may own one yet. The fanbois and cheerleaders I refer to are the supporters of Mark Cameron, not Cameron amps. The guys who told me repeatedly that Mark is a stand up guy who is just a little eccentric, that everyone who paid would get their amp if they would just be patient, etc...that I didn't know what I was talking about when I said that Cameron was never going to ship everyone that paid an amp. Those are the people I consider Mark Cameron fanbois, and those are the people that made it possible for Mark to scam 14 or more people with amp orders instead of just a couple of people.

 

[johnpace2]

I don't have much to add except that it's a new low for Mark when Nick has finally decided that he's had enough.

Once again, thanks to Brad and crew for trying to clean up this mess. I know it sounds self serving, but the sooner the lost amps are provided, the sooner most of the drama will go away.

 

[rlord1974]

It's not the drama around the "lost amps" that's the issue; it's the Internet history around the whole past that's problematic for Brad and Co. trying to launch this brand. 90% of the potential customers out there do not spend their time on Internet forums and understand the history vs. the future of the brand. I would hate to think how many potentially interested consumers simply Google "Cameron Amps" or "CCV" and get directed to the hundreds of negative threads on the Internet about Mark and the past. I believe there would be real value in distancing the new business from the old nonsense....

King Amplifications' CCV?
Tone King's CCV?
King Tone's CCV?

Make the break, lads.....

 

[King Guitar]

Hey Brad:

You know I'm one of your customers, have received my CCV, and having nothing but good things to say about the quality of the products you're putting out and the trustworthiness of the business you, Rob and Dave are now running.

All that being said, I feel for you guys and all of the negative attacks and Internet "bad press" you have to triage on what seems to be a daily basis. Launching a business is challenging enough without having to deal with these issues.

I don't pretend to know the exact nature of your contract with Mark Cameron, nor do I or anyone else on this board or anywhere else have a right to these details. However, if there IS the latitude in your arrangement with Mark to issue these designs under a name other than "Cameron", I believe it is an option you and your partners should consider.

I could care less whether my CCV had "Cameron" on the front panel or any other brand name. Knowing it was Mark's design - and hearing how good it sounds with my ears - is all that really matters. Issuing these designs under a new brand name would allow you to distance yourselves from this legacy nonsense once and for all, and hopefully give you guys a better chance of accomplishing what it is you set out to do.

I truly wish you, Rob and Dave nothing but success in 2012 and beyond.

Happy holidays.

muchas gracias

 

[Anonymous]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

This is a free speech type of place, so please, tell your story..... I'll even start....here's what I know....Mark either took deposits or payment in full on 14 CCVs that were never delivered, and there are 4 amp mod's he's had for years, that haven't beem delivered.

That's the truth as I know it; what's your story?

If you have something to add, toss it out....no need to be cryptic, let's keep the info public, and accurate. Mark has enough issues to fill a magazine rack, but being a drug addict isn't one of them, so please don't throw out speculation as truth.

Until you tell your story, you haven't "motherfucking told" us anything.....I'm surprised you're unwilling to share your situation publicly....Nick, Jay, Steve, and EVH fan are all very upfront with their issues, and all very credible....I certainly don't see any negative to getting your story out....I'm personally very curious.....

I got a few story's!!

 

[King Guitar]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

This is a free speech type of place, so please, tell your story..... I'll even start....here's what I know....Mark either took deposits or payment in full on 14 CCVs that were never delivered, and there are 4 amp mod's he's had for years, that haven't beem delivered.

That's the truth as I know it; what's your story?

If you have something to add, toss it out....no need to be cryptic, let's keep the info public, and accurate. Mark has enough issues to fill a magazine rack, but being a drug addict isn't one of them, so please don't throw out speculation as truth.

Until you tell your story, you haven't "motherfucking told" us anything.....I'm surprised you're unwilling to share your situation publicly....Nick, Jay, Steve, and EVH fan are all very upfront with their issues, and all very credible....I certainly don't see any negative to getting your story out....I'm personally very curious.....

I got a few story's!!

Kurts another good guy who was kicked in the nuts.

 

[steve_k]

It's not the drama around the "lost amps" that's the issue; it's the Internet history around the whole past that's problematic for Brad and Co. trying to launch this brand. 90% of the potential customers out there do not spend their time on Internet forums and understand the history vs. the future of the brand. I would hate to think how many potentially interested consumers simply Google "Cameron Amps" or "CCV" and get directed to the hundreds of negative threads on the Internet about Mark and the past. I believe there would be real value in distancing the new business from the old nonsense....

King Amplifications' CCV?
Tone King's CCV?
King Tone's CCV?

Make the break, lads.....

I can dig it.....my name on an amp

 

[Anonymous]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

This is a free speech type of place, so please, tell your story..... I'll even start....here's what I know....Mark either took deposits or payment in full on 14 CCVs that were never delivered, and there are 4 amp mod's he's had for years, that haven't beem delivered.

That's the truth as I know it; what's your story?

If you have something to add, toss it out....no need to be cryptic, let's keep the info public, and accurate. Mark has enough issues to fill a magazine rack, but being a drug addict isn't one of them, so please don't throw out speculation as truth.

Until you tell your story, you haven't "motherfucking told" us anything.....I'm surprised you're unwilling to share your situation publicly....Nick, Jay, Steve, and EVH fan are all very upfront with their issues, and all very credible....I certainly don't see any negative to getting your story out....I'm personally very curious.....

I got a few story's!!

Kurts another good guy who was kicked in the nuts.

Yup.....evey now and then...still walk kinda funny..lol!!

 

[Anonymous]

It's not the drama around the "lost amps" that's the issue; it's the Internet history around the whole past that's problematic for Brad and Co. trying to launch this brand. 90% of the potential customers out there do not spend their time on Internet forums and understand the history vs. the future of the brand. I would hate to think how many potentially interested consumers simply Google "Cameron Amps" or "CCV" and get directed to the hundreds of negative threads on the Internet about Mark and the past. I believe there would be real value in distancing the new business from the old nonsense....

King Amplifications' CCV?
Tone King's CCV?
King Tone's CCV?

Make the break, lads.....

I can dig it.....my name on an amp

But,But..."King tone" sounds so...umm...not now.....lol!!!

 

[Mailman1971]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

This is a free speech type of place, so please, tell your story..... I'll even start....here's what I know....Mark either took deposits or payment in full on 14 CCVs that were never delivered, and there are 4 amp mod's he's had for years, that haven't beem delivered.

That's the truth as I know it; what's your story?

If you have something to add, toss it out....no need to be cryptic, let's keep the info public, and accurate. Mark has enough issues to fill a magazine rack, but being a drug addict isn't one of them, so please don't throw out speculation as truth.

Until you tell your story, you haven't "motherfucking told" us anything.....I'm surprised you're unwilling to share your situation publicly....Nick, Jay, Steve, and EVH fan are all very upfront with their issues, and all very credible....I certainly don't see any negative to getting your story out....I'm personally very curious.....

I got a few story's!!

Kurts another good guy who was kicked in the nuts.

Yup.....evey now and then...still walk kinda funny..lol!!

Were you kicked with the Duct taped sandles?

 

[Anonymous]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

This is a free speech type of place, so please, tell your story..... I'll even start....here's what I know....Mark either took deposits or payment in full on 14 CCVs that were never delivered, and there are 4 amp mod's he's had for years, that haven't beem delivered.

That's the truth as I know it; what's your story?

If you have something to add, toss it out....no need to be cryptic, let's keep the info public, and accurate. Mark has enough issues to fill a magazine rack, but being a drug addict isn't one of them, so please don't throw out speculation as truth.

Until you tell your story, you haven't "motherfucking told" us anything.....I'm surprised you're unwilling to share your situation publicly....Nick, Jay, Steve, and EVH fan are all very upfront with their issues, and all very credible....I certainly don't see any negative to getting your story out....I'm personally very curious.....

I got a few story's!!

Kurts another good guy who was kicked in the nuts.

Yup.....evey now and then...still walk kinda funny..lol!!

Were you kicked with the Duct taped sandles?

lol!! I did give him money for shoes however..the folowing week when at his house...no new shoes but...smoke to smoke and pizza boxes

Now that I'm thinking about it...thats when the sandles went from being duct taped together to hot glued together...

 

[steve_k]

 

[jcj]

I had a whole long post typed out, but fuck it.....

I'm glad Brad is doing his best to make whole those that didn't get their CCVs, and I hope Mark chooses to get the outstanding mod's done and back in the hands of their owners, but at the end of the day, no one can MAKE Mark do a fucking thing...probably not what people want to hear, but 100% factual.

 

[joepete77]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

This is a free speech type of place, so please, tell your story..... I'll even start....here's what I know....Mark either took deposits or payment in full on 14 CCVs that were never delivered, and there are 4 amp mod's he's had for years, that haven't beem delivered.

That's the truth as I know it; what's your story?

If you have something to add, toss it out....no need to be cryptic, let's keep the info public, and accurate. Mark has enough issues to fill a magazine rack, but being a drug addict isn't one of them, so please don't throw out speculation as truth.

Until you tell your story, you haven't "motherfucking told" us anything.....I'm surprised you're unwilling to share your situation publicly....Nick, Jay, Steve, and EVH fan are all very upfront with their issues, and all very credible....I certainly don't see any negative to getting your story out....I'm personally very curious.....

Wow, all the bad press over a decade for just 4 missing mods?? That would be easy to clear up if true but somehow I think that figure is off just a touch.

 

[Seitz333]

As being one of the 13 MIA crew I have nothing but thanks to give to Brad and Co. I don't see any of us 13 complaining, yes we have expressed our wishes of getting our amps sooner, but I do believe that we will get our amps.

I would maybe suggest having one thread, maybe even a sticky, where people can bash Mark or tell their horror stories. This thing of a new thread popping up every few weeks/months stirring up the SOS is getting old. I do feel for these people and think it is terrible what Mark did. I do not see where it has anything to do the new Cameron Amps, Brad bought the name and designs from Mark. With Having the one thread it still gives them a platform to tell their story or make a plan to look at leagal options to take towards Mark, without cluttering up the Cameron Amp forum. Trust me if Brad had not stepped up for the 13 MIA crew I would have taken leagal action against Mark, as would several others in the MIA crew, as it has been discussed by us.

I do hope Mark continues to come up with new designs for Brad, I think it will bring nothing but good to Brad and Mark.

Maybe we should add a Logo delete option or a POW/MIA logo to the back plates.

I like the idea of adding "Supporting the MIA Crew" Badge on the back. Maybe a silver badge for those amps and then a Gold badge for the actual 13 amps when they are delivered.

Bash away...

Chuck

 

[jcj]

Based on what I've seen here, Brad King is the definition of a stand up guy, the polar opposite of Mark Cameron.


I have my own issue with Mark Cameron that I always have, and always will, refuse to air out on a public forum. My only goal is to keep shining the light of truth through the shroud of bullshit that Cameron's fanbois use to cloak his criminal acts and allow him to keep ripping people off. I'm not going to go into detail of my issue with Mark beyond that. It diesnt matter, the Cameron cheerleaders will take up for him no matter what.


Unless the threads have been deleted, I can go back years ago on Rig Talk and show where I warned people that Mark Cameron was a thieving drug addict, and I can show posts from many respected Rig Talk members where they attack me an call Mark a stand up guy. Those are the facts. I was always on the right side of this situation and I was ganged up on and attacked on this forum for daring to tell the truth about Mark Cameron.

I motherfucking told you so, and i won't get tired of saying that.

This is a free speech type of place, so please, tell your story..... I'll even start....here's what I know....Mark either took deposits or payment in full on 14 CCVs that were never delivered, and there are 4 amp mod's he's had for years, that haven't beem delivered.

That's the truth as I know it; what's your story?

If you have something to add, toss it out....no need to be cryptic, let's keep the info public, and accurate. Mark has enough issues to fill a magazine rack, but being a drug addict isn't one of them, so please don't throw out speculation as truth.

Until you tell your story, you haven't "motherfucking told" us anything.....I'm surprised you're unwilling to share your situation publicly....Nick, Jay, Steve, and EVH fan are all very upfront with their issues, and all very credible....I certainly don't see any negative to getting your story out....I'm personally very curious.....

Wow, all the bad press over a decade for just 4 missing mods?? That would be easy to clear up if true but somehow I think that figure is off just a touch.

I'm talking about credible people, who straight up haven't gotten their amps, and are on record with their stories; not people who have heard of a guy who had a buddy, who knew someone....Are there more? Maybe, but not that anyone is talking about.... and yes, one would assume that four amps would be an easy fix.... however you cannot make someone do something they are not willing to do.

 

[johnpace2]

As far as the lost CCV amps, heres a newsflash for you, Rob, Dave and I have already built and sent out a couple of those on our own dime to make guys whole. It didn't come from Mark, he has contributed nothing. Was it our obligation, Hell No it wasn't but we did it anyway and we will do more as we move forward and as we can afford too when things sell...

Brad

Since you brought it up, who have you gotten the lost CCV's to...? I'm surprised that an event like this has gone un-noticed...

Yeah, without stirring the pot, I would like to know. Todd and I are going on the longest CCV wait I believe... I want my amp as soon as it's feasible, but I trust Brad and Co so I'm really not too worried. I'm hoping for a delivery in 2012.