The weak administration strikes again. Isreal and Hamas going at it

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denialist said:
I don't necessarily believe that they knew, but it's worth considering. There are peculiarities. Egypt warned something big coming a few days before, which seems to have been ignored. We know the false-flag strategy has been considered in the past. ...If they didn't know, it was a massive failure, kinda like all the prison cameras going out, guards falling asleep, etc., when Epstein "killed himself."
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Alot of emerging evidence to the contrary.............

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...-egypt-warned-israel-3-days-before-onslaught/


Senior US lawmaker says Egypt warned Israel 3 days before onslaught​

By AFP 11 October 2023, 6:19 pm10

Israel got a warning from Egypt of potential violence three days before Hamas fighters carried out a large-scale attack and massacred over 1,000 people in Israel, the chairman of the powerful US House Foreign Affairs Committee said Wednesday.

“We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen,” Republican Michael McCaul tells reporters following a closed-door intelligence briefing for lawmakers on the crisis.

“I don’t want to get too much into classified, but a warning was given,” he says. “I think the question was at what level.”

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly denied that he was warned by Egypt’s head of intelligence about Hamas’s plans before the onslaught.

 
denialist said:
I don't necessarily believe that they knew, but it's worth considering. There are peculiarities. Egypt warned something big coming a few days before, which seems to have been ignored. We know the false-flag strategy has been considered in the past. ...If they didn't know, it was a massive failure, kinda like all the prison cameras going out, guards falling asleep, etc., when Epstein "killed himself."
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False flag as a mean to what end?
 
harddriver said:
Alot of emerging evidence the the contrary.............

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...-egypt-warned-israel-3-days-before-onslaught/


Senior US lawmaker says Egypt warned Israel 3 days before onslaught​

By AFP 11 October 2023, 6:19 pm10

Israel got a warning from Egypt of potential violence three days before Hamas fighters carried out a large-scale attack and massacred over 1,000 people in Israel, the chairman of the powerful US House Foreign Affairs Committee said Wednesday.

“We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen,” Republican Michael McCaul tells reporters following a closed-door intelligence briefing for lawmakers on the crisis.

“I don’t want to get too much into classified, but a warning was given,” he says. “I think the question was at what level.”

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly denied that he was warned by Egypt’s head of intelligence about Hamas’s plans before the onslaught.

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Yeah, the question is what exactly who was told what, and what significance it was attributed. It's hard to imagine they wouldn't have at least been on heightened alert, even if they weren't taking active counter measures.
 
denialist said:
Of course. Look how much pushback they're getting even now, and even within Israel.
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The army overrides the population. They are also a sovereign state so there's no need for external public support. Especially not the social media type.
 
Waiting for mass support will definitely cause radicalisation in the masses. I'm sure Israel wouldn't want that. They want people to see the truth and show support through donations and other means.
 
DanishDon said:
The army overrides the population. They are also a sovereign state so there's no need for external public support. Especially not the social media type.
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Not sure I understand what you're saying. Of course they have the capability, but they still need public support, or at least toleration.
 
denialist said:
Not sure I understand what you're saying. Of course they have the capability, but they still need public support, or at least toleration.
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I think most people agree with Israel's stance. The main argument for its existence in the area is alluded to in the Bible itself and surrounding nations want to piss them off because it is thought they are the chosen people. I think it's a case of jealousy and nothing else.
 
DanishDon said:
I think most people agree with Israel's stance. The main argument for its existence in the area is alluded to in the Bible itself and surrounding nations want to piss them off because it is thought they are the chosen people. I think it's a case of jealousy and nothing else.
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That's kind of debatable if you read the final couple chapters of Deuteronomy when the Moses warns the curses that will befall them should they violate the covenant. There is a lot to unload when it comes to a theological discussion and Israel. The founding of modern Israel is definitely anything but religious in nature. Quite the contrary, Hertzl, the founder of zionism, was a rabid atheist and communist....
 
In Australia we'd call someone called Gary "Gazza" but I certainly wouldn't want him to strip. So maybe getting rid of the Gaza Strip is for the best.
 
paulyc said:
Except it all starts somewhere. You think white Christian nationalists don’t want to kill liberal commies ??? Think again. Or does that not fit in your narrative ?
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I've been informed that Christian Nationalism is nonsense:

Bless your gullible heart, Johnny.
Christians and the GOP work together? Well DUH!
Silly overblown conspiracy stuff, etc.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Project 2025 isn't real, that's paranoid nonsense, etc.

I've gotten used to folks who don't stay informed trying to school me.

It would be amusing if it weren't so tragic.
 
JohnnyGtar said:
I've been informed that Christian Nationalism is nonsense:

Bless your gullible heart, Johnny.
Christians and the GOP work together? Well DUH!
Silly overblown conspiracy stuff, etc.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Project 2025 isn't real, that's paranoid nonsense, etc.

I've gotten used to folks who don't stay informed trying to school me.

It would be amusing if it weren't so tragic.
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Christianity doesn't align completely the Republicans but it aligns even less with the Democrats imo. The Democrats are the party of moral decay, humanism and anything goes.
 
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JohnnyGtar said:
I've been informed that Christian Nationalism is nonsense:

Bless your gullible heart, Johnny.
Christians and the GOP work together? Well DUH!
Silly overblown conspiracy stuff, etc.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Project 2025 isn't real, that's paranoid nonsense, etc.

I've gotten used to folks who don't stay informed trying to school me.

It would be amusing if it weren't so tragic.
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Now that the ecumenical movement has taken full root "christians" also work with democrats. Note the plethora of churches who offered vaccine clinics on their grounds during Biden's heavy push. Since 99% of western christianity is pure heresy most of the denominations blow whichever way the political winds do. All of them but a handful closed down during the "lockdown" as ordered. That's how you can tell your church is corrupted basura.
 
So have we reached a conclusion yet? One or two more pages and I think we will have found real solutions to real global problems that analysts and generals couldn't solve.
 
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