the4thlast1
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Maybe someday there will be products made in America.
rsm
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we still make and sell weapons of war, some of the best in the world thanks to American taxpayers.
we still make and sell pharmaceuticals to keep people alive and hooked for life (no cures allowed); some of the best in the world thanks to American tax payers who also pay more for the drugs our tax dollars funded to develop. we even make and sell more pharmaceuticals to manage the side effects of the maintenance drugs needed to keep people alive...
we still make Gibson guitars, some Fenders, EBMM, crayola crayons, Lodge cookware. kitchen aid, airstream, zippo, igloo, pyrex, frye boots, weber grills, wilson footballs and yankee candles....and pesticides, chemicals, petroleum and coal products, metals, medical equipment...
Erock
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hoping RFK makes a difference with big pharma. I think the fact that they pushed so hard against him since even his Democrat primaries, shows he's the right man for the job. The only arguments I've heard against him is "anti-vax", and they are worried their research grants(loot), but he literally says he wants more clinical trials of these drugs for their efficacy and long term effects. Our food is jacked, we've had relatives come here from overseas, and literally gain crazy pounds staying here a few weeks, lol.
skoora
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RFK Jr. is a different breed for sure but whenever someone speaks hard truths (and some questionable ones
) about big industry (food/pharma) or at least asks the right questions, it’s amazing to see the huge push to make the person out to be a nutjob. Our food and water makes us sick, the drugs manage the sickness but cure almost nothing, possible natural solutions are typically disregarded and insurance companies tell Doctors what they can and cannot do. Somebody designed a system to torture and break us and it was us. We did it to ourselves because we care about money over every thing else.
UltraGary
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Disguising a political temper tantrum as an amp discussion. What a gross thread..
WizardSouth-JP
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the components in his amps are from USA to it doesn't really matter - people buying his amps don't give a shit what they cost.
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VESmedic
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Yeah we saw how that worked in his first term and American farmers got Fucked.
Then why did he win Iowa by like, 15 points? More than last time? My entire family, for the better part of the early 1900s to today are farmers from
Iowa. I can assure you they don’t feel this way Atleast.
The Blazing Saddle
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This thread delivers! 
Porkweasel
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I think I remember seeing Kyle from KSR saying it’ll definitely cause increases in his own prices even as a US manufacturer. All the parts that are imported will be individually slapped with tariffs, so the overall price of the amps will be impacted even if made here. The used market is going to pick back up if that’s the case.
tallcoolone
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WizardSouth-JP
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more money to spend on amps when a trip to the grocery store isn't $300 a pop for a 1/2 full cart
espquade
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Funny how many people here don't seem to get that . All these Tariffs will trickle back down to us the consumer so it will come out of our pocket one way or the other and yes it sounds so simple just make everything in the U.S. right... well you are living in a fools paradise if you believe that will ever happen and if it did the cost of so much of these things would skyrocket. If these Tariffs actually happen then this will have quite an impact on everyday products that we consume. Do we actually think this is only going to happen to amps , musical gear..etc... No it's going to happen with items you buy that you never even realized.
I could care less about your political views as this will effect everyone on some financial level and not in a positive way. Leftists , Far right who gives a fuck it will happen to everyone and those of you who believe this won't effect you then please keep living in the orange dream... LOL
lespaul6
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Easy guys.. all of the tariffs that were previously imposed were kept by the current administration, and a few added, to things like ev cars and other goods. This is a bargaining chip... mexico has way more to lose than we do, and they know it.
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VESmedic
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Bingo…this is America throwing our weight around alittle bit, and rightfully fucking so.
napalmdeath
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It's a scare tactic. First off, it's meant to get Canada and Mexico to secure their boarders. And if neither were concerned, it sure is funny how both are scrambling to come to the table to avoid it, and out of the blue are cracking down with boarder enforcement. The leader of Mexico is already clamping down and stopping caravans headed here.
Second, should we let China invade Mexico with EV car factories, and flood the market that effects the US auto workers, and industry? Alot of you snowflakes that are crying in your beer because you voted for Kamala don't understand how much more damage would have been done. I'll take Trump any day. Stop you're bitching and look how things were when he was in office already. I suppose since the sore losers on MSDNC, CNN, ABC, and the cacking hens on The View are done licking their wounds and the fake news and their narrative stopped, we have to revive it on forums and social media. It's pathetic.
Second, should we let China invade Mexico with EV car factories, and flood the market that effects the US auto workers, and industry? Alot of you snowflakes that are crying in your beer because you voted for Kamala don't understand how much more damage would have been done. I'll take Trump any day. Stop you're bitching and look how things were when he was in office already. I suppose since the sore losers on MSDNC, CNN, ABC, and the cacking hens on The View are done licking their wounds and the fake news and their narrative stopped, we have to revive it on forums and social media. It's pathetic.
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napalmdeath
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Exactly. It's 100% leverage to stop the migrants and seal the boarder.
espquade
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Here is just one example to think about as how many of you realize how just clothing items from T shirts, socks, jeans , shoes etc are manufactured in China ? Not just cheap clothing lines but several higher end designer brands are imported from them . China will be forced to pay the tariffs but in turn will raise their prices and the U.S. companies who purchase these goods and will have no choice but to raise their prices accordingly . This is the domino effect on a mass level.
And speaking of Mexico we don't just import Tequila and Corona from them
as many auto manufactures have plants in Mexico and make several parts for U.S vehicles so for example that Ford F 150 or Chevy Tahoe etc or whatever you have been thinking about buying new this year is going to go up in price. This sounds wonderful right???
Smash
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This thread derailed fast. I send tubes to canada and call them light bulbs. A manufacturer that sends to stores here will be affected. A person there making a transaction to a person here has similar tricks. This is a total nonissue
rsm
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Well Wizard (Wizzer?) amps are not for everyone, unless you have the $ for them...you're getting into Two Rock territory...
Thankfully I have my stock mass produced Marshalls, Fenders and Engls. I now own my first Bogner so who knows what the future holds
Thankfully I have my stock mass produced Marshalls, Fenders and Engls. I now own my first Bogner so who knows what the future holds
rsm
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Here is just one example to think about as how many of you realize how just clothing items from T shirts, socks, jeans , shoes etc are manufactured in China ? Not just cheap clothing lines but several higher end designer brands are imported from them . China will be forced to pay the tariffs but in turn will raise their prices and the U.S. companies who purchase these goods and will have no choice but to raise their prices accordingly . This is the domino effect on a mass level.
And speaking of Mexico we don't just import Tequila and Corona from them
Economic incentives for capitalists to invest in Made in USA manufacturing?
Closing our borders.
Deporting millions of illegal invaders.
vs
paying more for crap I mostly don't even need.
Sounds good to me.