Kapo_Polenton
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So this guy has his face out there for everyone to see? I guess he's got a fantastic working scam going here and nothing ever gets done about it.
So this guy has his face out there for everyone to see? I guess he's got a fantastic working scam going here and nothing ever gets done about it.
311splawndude
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^ crazy right?
He probably has a real high IQ but is paralized socially. A true narisissit would do just that. Flaunt their crimes and their face in front of those (they have stolen from) as a way of showing that they have won. Kind of like psychos that get real close to the family and the police after a murder.
Those that have been bitten by this guy should start a private group PM as to not give away any secrets about your plans.
He probably has a real high IQ but is paralized socially. A true narisissit would do just that. Flaunt their crimes and their face in front of those (they have stolen from) as a way of showing that they have won. Kind of like psychos that get real close to the family and the police after a murder.
Those that have been bitten by this guy should start a private group PM as to not give away any secrets about your plans.
mooncobra
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What scam did fatbagg van makmsteen try this time?
mooncobra
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It sounds like he has tried to scam many different guys and has succeeded often. The crazy part is over how many years this has been going on!!
Glpg80, glad you figured out he hadn’t had the amp in over a year. Did he approach you out of the blue and offer to sell it to you?
Glpg80, glad you figured out he hadn’t had the amp in over a year. Did he approach you out of the blue and offer to sell it to you?
glpg80
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About a year ago he tried to sell his 100B to many people even when he didn’t own it anymore. I was one of them. He posted he was willing to let go of it and obviously I’d want one but I figured out he sold it ages ago. I think I found the original sale ad in google which matched pictures he was sending me to convince me he owned it.
The original thread about him scamming over a member for over $2k involved a potential trade with said non-existent 100B at the same time he was attempting to fuck me over.
All of this is in the OG Fatbagg is a douche thread
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itsgoodnow
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Maybe it was a 100 god I can’t even keep track of his shit after all this time lolol. Regardless. A cock bag
I think of all this it was a 101b he sold after he sold it…while trying to sell it to another person
Maybe it was a 100 god I can’t even keep track of his shit after all this time lolol. Regardless. A cock bag
glpg80
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No I remember he had a super rare 100B. There’s only like 200 on the face of the earth. He scammed enough people to buy a CCV. He was and still is fucking everyone over in his path to get super rare gear he can’t afford to play in his bedroom.
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itsgoodnow
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Ah my bad. Yeah scumbag behavior all around. Honestly I don’t even know how even finds all of this shit let alone buys it (well I guess we know how). Most of it is unobtainable
glpg80
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He pays top dollar with stolen money, finds the gear, and then doesn’t shut the fuck up to the owner until he either offers enough above market to get it or they cave so he will piss off. I heard he paid $5500 for the CCV and that was 2+ years ago. As someone who has owned a CCV told me, they’re great amps but they’re not worth that kind of money.
alund
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Ohhhfff. Be careful. Conspiracy of an act will get caught if written. Like the internet crimes guy with us now on RT said earlier in one of these threads. I know you don’t mean it in the literal sense but law doesn’t care
The way I handle high end sales in the gun world is people connection- small world- we know everyone; same here on RT. I know a few of you. I’d assume there are people in every corner on the US on this forum as well. Use people local to the “new seller” who can assist in the purchase at least on first or second time of sale.
What I have always wanted to create was an “merchandise/escrow warehouse” if you will for high end items. Send item to said warehouse , send money to holding escrow account. Then everything gets sent from there by the holding company. If one party doesn’t send, well the party is over; obviously the money is transferred first that way shipping of item is not paid for yet….. one could start a new paypal through the escrow , “RT craigslist” if you will etc etc.. that way if some coxucker says “I don’t do that method; you tell him to eat a dick.
Yes it’s more money BUT if it cost 100 extra or 200 extra to guarantee a JMP or 57 Strat makes it to you then maybe it’s worth it. Insurance against dickweeds. Those are my post Friday night bourbon thoughts.
311splawndude
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^ I was not suggesting violent plans, more class action/joint reporting type stuff. And although PM's can be sopeaned, at least they would be private from said perpetrator as I'm sure he is reading all of this. That would be par for the course for a narcissist. That was my only point.
The warehouse thing seems like a good idea in theory. What kind of fees would you envision charging to pay for such an operation?
The warehouse thing seems like a good idea in theory. What kind of fees would you envision charging to pay for such an operation?
alund
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I know that… I am always careful to say things though openly when my gun deals have gone bad… rare as it is. It’s maddening
Who knows. Just thoughts. If there was a collective that didn’t charge other than the true fees for the business then everyone wins. Everyone is safe. Yeah. Theory.
RevDrucifer
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That’s exactly how he got the Vai Bogner, offering my bud an obscene amount of money for it.
FourT6and2
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Someone else owns both of those amps now (100A/100B). There's a recent thread on TGP.
glpg80
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I’ve been after that 100B for years.
mooncobra
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My friend flips the weekly Nike released limited editions. (You have to get the Nike lottery app as they only sell a thousand pairs. He has won the the right to buy a pair like 10 times over 2 years and at the very least triples or quadruples his money, but a couple times he has made 15 or 20 times his money.)He sends the shoes he buys to some middle man type thing and the money is released to him when the shoes he sent arrive to middle man.Ohhhfff. Be careful. Conspiracy of an act will get caught if written. Like the internet crimes guy with us now on RT said earlier in one of these threads. I know you don’t mean it in the literal sense but law doesn’t care
The way I handle high end sales in the gun world is people connection- small world- we know everyone; same here on RT. I know a few of you. I’d assume there are people in every corner on the US on this forum as well. Use people local to the “new seller” who can assist in the purchase at least on first or second time of sale.
What I have always wanted to create was an “merchandise/escrow warehouse” if you will for high end items. Send item to said warehouse , send money to holding escrow account. Then everything gets sent from there by the holding company. If one party doesn’t send, well the party is over; obviously the money is transferred first that way shipping of item is not paid for yet….. one could start a new paypal through the escrow , “RT craigslist” if you will etc etc.. that way if some coxucker says “I don’t do that method; you tell him to eat a dick.
Yes it’s more money BUT if it cost 100 extra or 200 extra to guarantee a JMP or 57 Strat makes it to you then maybe it’s worth it. Insurance against dickweeds. Those are my post Friday night bourbon thoughts.
IIBornotIIB
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That one was mine at one point, pre-Ellison…. Great amp!
alund
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Yes. Exactly something like this. There has to be someone with no agenda.
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itsgoodnow
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That seems like it is is more or less consignment through a retailer. There would be a lot of logistics for a spot like that for RTers.
As for the legal part, if you really wanted all of that information just file a suit in federal court (unless someone lives in the same state as him then do state). Subpoena his communications and financials and send a subpoena to TGP/Ebay/Reverb for correspondence and send discovery requests asap. 500 dollars to file, a couple hundred to serve. And you would get all your answers in a few months to every mystery. Probably not worth it since he isn't collectible--though, to be honest, he has a lot of fucking issues committing mail fraud, possibly tax fraud, and probably other shit we don't know about.
I guess if he had unreported income anyone could report him to the IRS and get rewarded 15-30 percent of the uncollected income to them. That would get them repaid lol.
mooncobra
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So gross thinking about that psycho offering huge amounts of cash that’s not his for amps.
Clearly he is one of those guys that never learns a lesson as he continues to perpetrate his acts of subterfuge. He is probably even on the level of the dudes who go to jail who view their prison sentence as a brief hiccup on their way to bigger scams. No big deal, you know how it is. Robbing fellow guitarists makes it so much worse.
I hope he suffers some sort of repercussions.