70strathead
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On another note, I used to crank my 71 superlead on 10 and face it backwards so that I wouldn't kill anyone. I could only do that when we played certain places because of the room size. It also helped that I had a kickass soundguy who put me though the monitors and the PA. I played dry and he added some verb at the board and some delay only for solos. Sounded insane but I could not do that at every place we played.[/quote]
This is a very intersting and mysterious topic we're on and there are some excellent points coming from Ralph and Odin. The plexi shield thingy I'm actually going to be experiementing with pretty soon when i start playing out again. I sat in front of Joe Bonnamasa's amps ( like 5 feet away) at a small venue and thats what he had and honestly it did not hurt my ears and he was pretty loud. Turning the cab backwards I tried during one set and it sounded killer as well. I've also experiemented with putting marshall Vinyl Cab covers over my cab and sneaking in the mic ...it's kinda muffles the sound, but it will still sound normal through the P.A. I actually record this way.
anyway, all good info! [/quote]
Sup Brother!!
The aiming the cab backwards thing was the last straw that started me using a slave rig just before I called it quits in 91.
I think slaving sounds better then attenuating and it definitely will give you that cranked sound at any volume, but you will loose the speakers envolvment in the tone. (that is if if you dont turn up a bit)(you don't have to turn up insanely loud.. I'm talking gig volume!)
Nowdays , for Plexi use, I think a PPIV master volume used in conjunction with a hotplate just kills. I have seen and heard a few guys do this now and the results are stunning.
It's the best of both worlds because the master volume lowers the overall volume but you can still crank the volume enough to get the o/p tubes working and then use the hotplate to load it back down a bit. Using both allows you to use the hotplate only a few notches to take the volume down whereas you would have to take it down more if you didnt have the MV.
Now with that said, I have since moved on to MV amps for the most part lol [/quote]
hey bro...ah you know same old same old....the quest for tones is never ending!
Great stuff, I'm going to have to flag this thread and save it because by the time I start gigging again, I'm going to have use this as a reference before I dish out hundred of dollars and pain/agony to achieve practical volumes...especially now that venues are becoming smaller and the days of 2 or more 4X12's on stage are pretty much history...plus I don't want to get arrested and 86'ed out of clubs for being too loud!
thanks again!
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This is a very intersting and mysterious topic we're on and there are some excellent points coming from Ralph and Odin. The plexi shield thingy I'm actually going to be experiementing with pretty soon when i start playing out again. I sat in front of Joe Bonnamasa's amps ( like 5 feet away) at a small venue and thats what he had and honestly it did not hurt my ears and he was pretty loud. Turning the cab backwards I tried during one set and it sounded killer as well. I've also experiemented with putting marshall Vinyl Cab covers over my cab and sneaking in the mic ...it's kinda muffles the sound, but it will still sound normal through the P.A. I actually record this way.
anyway, all good info! [/quote]
Sup Brother!!
The aiming the cab backwards thing was the last straw that started me using a slave rig just before I called it quits in 91.
I think slaving sounds better then attenuating and it definitely will give you that cranked sound at any volume, but you will loose the speakers envolvment in the tone. (that is if if you dont turn up a bit)(you don't have to turn up insanely loud.. I'm talking gig volume!)
Nowdays , for Plexi use, I think a PPIV master volume used in conjunction with a hotplate just kills. I have seen and heard a few guys do this now and the results are stunning.
It's the best of both worlds because the master volume lowers the overall volume but you can still crank the volume enough to get the o/p tubes working and then use the hotplate to load it back down a bit. Using both allows you to use the hotplate only a few notches to take the volume down whereas you would have to take it down more if you didnt have the MV.
Now with that said, I have since moved on to MV amps for the most part lol [/quote]
hey bro...ah you know same old same old....the quest for tones is never ending!
Great stuff, I'm going to have to flag this thread and save it because by the time I start gigging again, I'm going to have use this as a reference before I dish out hundred of dollars and pain/agony to achieve practical volumes...especially now that venues are becoming smaller and the days of 2 or more 4X12's on stage are pretty much history...plus I don't want to get arrested and 86'ed out of clubs for being too loud!
thanks again!
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