What happened to great Rock/Metal Bands??

[JakeAC5253]

Most of the people who make the case for there not being any good music out nowadays, have much the same argument as women who say there are no good men in the world. There are good men in the world, but they aren't interested in them because they are much more attracted to the "bad ass" type.

 

[Bloodrock]

I thought a lot of the 90's wasn't very good, but IMO it all went to total shit when bands started tuning their guitars to drop-Z bullshit tunings and screaming everything. Screaming gave way to whining like a little bitch, now they've reincorporated the screaming AND the whining with the indecipherable three guitar chords and turned it into the garbage you hear so much today.

 

[Coopster]

@ snakeman1986

Talk about subjective... Do you just hate classic rock on principal? I'm not trying to be a troll, just curious. Most of the bands mentioned in the OP I would consider songwriters as in writing for the song and not building everything up around an epic solo. Epic solos may have been part and parcel for the times, but the only thing worth listening to in the song? I think not.

 

[cujo]

Sorry man godsmack kicks ass every single show old school n memorable !

 

[Coopster]

I thought a lot of the 90's wasn't very good, but IMO it all went to total shit when bands started tuning their guitars to drop-Z bullshit tunings and screaming everything. Screaming gave way to whining like a little bitch, now they've reincorporated the screaming AND the whining with the indecipherable three guitar chords and turned it into the garbage you hear so much today.

I used to fool myself into thinking the 90's had good music until I walked away from it for a couple of years.

Hindsite tells me I like Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains. Everything else...

 

[Bloodrock]

@ snakeman1986

Talk about subjective... Do you just hate classic rock on principal? I'm not trying to be a troll, just curious. Most of the bands mentioned in the OP I would consider songwriters as in writing for the song and not building everything up around an epic solo. Epic solos may have been part and parcel for the times, but the only thing worth listening to in the song? I think not.

Sadly in todays ADD/buy one song at a time/I-tunes generation of music purchasers don't know what it's like to drop a needle on 12 inches of greatness, like Physical Graffiti or Master of Reality, and sit back and listen to the greatness of an ENTIRE ALBUM! Bands and songs are created and sold ONE song at a time nowadays, and they expect only radio friendly hit songs all the time.... or it's on to the next flavor of the week.

 

[Random Hero]

Mastodon.

 

[Audioholic]

What happened? You getting older and now everything isn't as good as it used to be. haha. Partly true. While Music scene has changed in some ways for the bad, over produced and recycled sound / production, there is still a ton of great artists and new artists / bands out there. To think that there is no good bands or music anymore means you aren't listening, and possibly you may never get past what you think is the glory days...

I mean its funny to me seeing peeps praise how the 80's was the best music ever now everything sucks. I was a 90's boy and I thought 80's sucked and loved grunge, but I still am a believer in solid music and bands now adays... This reminds me of hearing my parents saying how music isn't as good as it was back in their day. haha. its a never ending cycle I tell ya

 

[HerbieBoogie]

there is still a lot of good music... you just have to dig for it.

 

[JakeAC5253]

@ snakeman1986

Talk about subjective... Do you just hate classic rock on principal? I'm not trying to be a troll, just curious. Most of the bands mentioned in the OP I would consider songwriters as in writing for the song and not building everything up around an epic solo. Epic solos may have been part and parcel for the times, but the only thing worth listening to in the song? I think not.

Sadly in todays ADD/buy one song at a time/I-tunes generation of music purchasers don't know what it's like to drop a needle on 12 inches of greatness, like Physical Graffiti or Master of Reality, and sit back and listen to the greatness of an ENTIRE ALBUM! Bands and songs are created and sold ONE song at a time nowadays, and they expect only radio friendly hit songs all the time.... or it's on to the next flavor of the week.

An interesting point, and I mostly agree, except that you miss one great thing. Albums died in the 80's and 90's, we all know that, people listened to songs once MTV happened. Now MTV culture is dead and we are seeing the rebirth of the album, particularly in the progressive metal scene. In progressive metal, songs are often written in pieces or movements with often a loose or indistinct compositional structure. Sometimes songs last ten minutes or longer and often have clean or acoustic parts intertwined with heavier parts, and many times not tuned to "drop-z". Progressive/underground metal is also where all of the real musicianship is hiding in metal these days, so don't tell me (referring to everyone involved) that because KoRn, Slipknot, and Trivium suck, that metal as a whole sucks. You are wrong if you think this, and it was wrong in your day too. Yes, there is going to be screaming and grunting in metal, it has been this way since Priest came out of the closet, deal with it.

Why am I still writing this, this is obviously a complaint/nostalgia thread, rather than an open logical discussion.

 

[Moshaholic]

VH,GnR,Zep,Rush,Scorps,Priest,Maiden,Purple,Dio,Sabbath,Ozzy,Alice in Chains

Soundgarden,Metallica,Megadeth,Stone Temple Pilots,Lizzy,Whitesnake,Skynyrd,Eagles

Journey,Aerosmith,Foreigner,Floyd,Queen,Stones,Cream,Beatles,Hendrix,Who,U2,Pearl Jam,Nirvana

Billy Squire,Reo Speedwagon,Green Day,Def Leppard,Mötley Crüe



The only band in the last 17 years is Foo Fighters

Even if a newer band has a cool song or riff, that's about it. Just nothing lasting,special or iconic about them.

What the fuck is going on??

They stopped writing and playing great music in favor of hanging out on internet gear forums to talk about modding thier amps...

 

[Coopster]

@ snakeman1986

Talk about subjective... Do you just hate classic rock on principal? I'm not trying to be a troll, just curious. Most of the bands mentioned in the OP I would consider songwriters as in writing for the song and not building everything up around an epic solo. Epic solos may have been part and parcel for the times, but the only thing worth listening to in the song? I think not.

Sadly in todays ADD/buy one song at a time/I-tunes generation of music purchasers don't know what it's like to drop a needle on 12 inches of greatness, like Physical Graffiti or Master of Reality, and sit back and listen to the greatness of an ENTIRE ALBUM! Bands and songs are created and sold ONE song at a time nowadays, and they expect only radio friendly hit songs all the time.... or it's on to the next flavor of the week.

An interesting point, and I mostly agree, except that you miss one great thing. Albums died in the 80's and 90's, we all know that, people listened to songs once MTV happened. Now MTV culture is dead and we are seeing the rebirth of the album, particularly in the progressive metal scene. In progressive metal, songs are often written in pieces or movements with often a loose or indistinct compositional structure. Sometimes songs last ten minutes or longer and often have clean or acoustic parts intertwined with heavier parts, and many times not tuned to "drop-z". Progressive/underground metal is also where all of the real musicianship is hiding in metal these days, so don't tell me (referring to everyone involved) that because KoRn, Slipknot, and Trivium suck, that metal as a whole sucks. You are wrong if you think this, and it was wrong in your day too. Yes, there is going to be screaming and grunting in metal, it has been this way since Priest came out of the closet, deal with it.

Why am I still writing this, this is obviously a complaint/nostalgia thread, rather than an open logical discussion.

Not at all, there is current music I like, it's just few and far between. I've been a big supporter of Black Stone Cherry, but to me, they would fit fairly well into the classic rock mold just from a modern perspective. I'm not a big fan of cookie monster vocals but I'll listen to some of it. I actually really like Paramore, I really dug MCR's The Black Parade. There's stuff out there, it's just harder for me to really, consistently get behind it. And I find myself more and more listening to instrumental music over anything with lyrical content. And I'm discovering a lot of new stuff that's out there that I'd never heard before. My tastes may change but I can still accept new things.

Also, MTV got me into albums. A song would come on, I'd go buy the album and take the journey through all of it. I don't think the era of the single happened until Itunes came along.

 

[Bloodrock]

@ snakeman1986

Talk about subjective... Do you just hate classic rock on principal? I'm not trying to be a troll, just curious. Most of the bands mentioned in the OP I would consider songwriters as in writing for the song and not building everything up around an epic solo. Epic solos may have been part and parcel for the times, but the only thing worth listening to in the song? I think not.

Sadly in todays ADD/buy one song at a time/I-tunes generation of music purchasers don't know what it's like to drop a needle on 12 inches of greatness, like Physical Graffiti or Master of Reality, and sit back and listen to the greatness of an ENTIRE ALBUM! Bands and songs are created and sold ONE song at a time nowadays, and they expect only radio friendly hit songs all the time.... or it's on to the next flavor of the week.

An interesting point, and I mostly agree, except that you miss one great thing. Albums died in the 80's and 90's, we all know that, people listened to songs once MTV happened. Now MTV culture is dead and we are seeing the rebirth of the album, particularly in the progressive metal scene. In progressive metal, songs are often written in pieces or movements with often a loose or indistinct compositional structure. Sometimes songs last ten minutes or longer and often have clean or acoustic parts intertwined with heavier parts, and many times not tuned to "drop-z". Progressive/underground metal is also where all of the real musicianship is hiding in metal these days, so don't tell me (referring to everyone involved) that because KoRn, Slipknot, and Trivium suck, that metal as a whole sucks. You are wrong if you think this, and it was wrong in your day too. Yes, there is going to be screaming and grunting in metal, it has been this way since Priest came out of the closet, deal with it.

Why am I still writing this, this is obviously a complaint/nostalgia thread, rather than an open logical discussion.

I think you're right. Metal has held up better as a genre over the years because a lot of Metal has allways been underground since it began. You do have to search to find the good stuff, but it's there. Like Machine Head, those guys fucking kill!!...and they tune low, but they also have amazing chops and would sound badass regardless. Good hard rock is another story, not a lot of good stuff to be found really, except bands that copy the sound of older bands. I wish fans today would search deeper into what's behind the sounds they like, instead of just listening to the stuff that radio tells them they should listen to.

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

Also, MTV got me into albums. A song would come on, I'd go buy the album and take the journey through all of it. I don't think the era of the single happened until Itunes came along.

Same here but I also have a closet full of CD's that are filled with shitty filler tracks even by the some of the greats..

Itunes is a blessing because I no longer have to waste my money on shit I am stuck with and I do not want to listen to..

I dont blame Itunes, any specific generation or era of music because IMO all bands at some point released something that would be considered shitty to some one else.
The only difference no one has to buy it and be stuck with it..

 

[chunktone]

It seems to me, that there just are not many newer metal bands that have a singer that can sing. I guess it's much easier to just give the mic to the most pissed off person you can find. It takes no talent to be pissed off.

And speaking of pissed off so called singers, am I the only one who thinks these guys are bigger posers that Poison? I mean really! If they were as evil, pissed off tough guy badasses as they are pretending to be, they wouldn't have time to play "music", they'd be too busy murdering innocent children etc...

 

[BYTOR]

Many of my favorite songs are tracks on albums that i would never of heard because they were not one of the released singles. I'm glad itunes was not available back in the day. I heard and fell in love with some deep album cuts as a result. This is what makes bands even more special to you.

 

[rcm78]

You cant know if something is lasting or Iconic until they have a good depth of work. All those classic bands you listed have had the luxury of existing for decades unlike the bands of today. Not to mention those bands have gotten airplay for years and years. Any of those bands could have been one and done and know one would have remembered them.

Op did say GnR. I wouldn't say they have much depth of work. Honestly, I would almost consider them one and done. Lies was a joke. The Spaghetti Incident? Joke. Use Your Illusion? Pompous, blustery and full of self indulgence (not that I didn't enjoy it). We won't even mention Chinese Democracy.

GnR makes it's name off of AFD. Period.

I agree 100% but god dammit if AFD wasnt one of the best rock records ever recorded...

 

[thiswaythatway]

I could go on and on.

 

[vultures]

Here's a couple videos you might find interesting

Firewind - Current Guitarist plays for Ozzy

Throne of Chaos - had to upload this myself

Mercenary - Little heavier, but nontheless cool

Wintersun - Heavier, more folk-y, but still awesome

 

[headlessdeadguy]

To the OP: Man I think there is a ton of great bands out there today! Sucks to be you!