riffsfordaze
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Basically a drummer the polar opposite of Lars (garden gnome) Ulrich
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This is the kinda dude I want on drums right here:
This is the kinda dude I want on drums right here:
It's a good song that used to be an overplayed standard but seems to have fallen by the wayside in the last 20 years. I was doing that one a few years ago but dumped it in favor of some lesser traveled stuff.LOL my cover band plays this song
The dude I'm scared of volume wise is the guy who shows up with Zildjian Z's and American Rock Crusher sticks. That's the point where I start thinking about shoving a bit of cotton in my ear/s for protection. Those Z's could just about be un-mic'ed at a stadium gig. White noise.....
the best of the best, vinnie c, dave w, steve g, stewart c, are not by default loud drummers, but can play loud when needed.
vinnie played with sting, megadeth, faith hill, zappa, jeff beck, chick correa, herbie hancock, robben ford, allan holdsworth….that is a great drummer.
i saw him at the baked potato playing with the mike landau trio and my seat was close enough to his kit to be able to touch his ride. it’s a small club and they were loud. i am totally anti bash when it comes to drums, but vinnie plays with authority and control. his dynamics are perfection. he played with intensity and had to change frayed sticks twice during the set but not once did i feel oppressed by his volume.
i can live without caveman guys who use big sticks swinging from the rafters with high tuned gunshot snares and fill every space with blacksmith anvil rides and white noise cymbals. played and mixed sound for those and it is not fun.
Yep, Z's are not made for finesse! LOL
I think I lost more hearing in two years of playing bass with a blues-rock group where the drummer had a Z crash. Occasionally I can still hear that thing 25 years later, lol. A's and K's I love but Z's, man those are to be feared. Like jamming a steel wool covered icepick into your ear.Yep, Z's are not made for finesse! LOL
I'll bet you either have hearious searing damage or own a pricey pair of earplugs.The drummer in my punk band uses all Z's
I'll bet you either have hearious searing damage or own a pricey pair of earplugs.
I've used stage right for about 15 years so when someone is whispering in my left ear I be like:I have minor hearing loss in one ear (from being the same position stage right for 27 years) but we practice in a relatively large room, so it isn't that terrible unless he's really going for it with the cymbals.
If we ever play a tiny venue or something, I absolutely wear plugs
If you're practicing in a normal (tiny) room, everyone else better be wearing earplugs or else your drummer is a bitch
Now you’re looking for a unicornTriple digit I.Q.
I’ll take one that doesn’t eat their boogers.Now you’re looking for a unicorn
I've used stage right for about 15 years so when someone is whispering in my left ear I be like:
To me, that sounds horrible. I can’t imagine what kind of attitude you must have, to put yourself in the spotlight and forget the lyrics or play wrong fills. The embarrassment alone would force me to practice my part.I think this goes for any member of the band but it boils down to respect. Respect the performance, the listeners, the venue and the other musician's effort they put it when you're not there.
I think if you have that base you tend to do the right things. Maybe these 3 things for drummers:
1. Practice with a metronome
2. Learn the whole song
3. Serve the song
From a guitarist's perspective I had a lot of anxiety for a particular cover because it was difficult so I put in lots of hours to get it ready for the performance. The drummer didn't practice and come gig night he couldn't keep a solid tempo, did the wrong fills, and rushed the whole thing when my solo came making it 10x more difficult. Singer forgot the words, other guitarist and the bassist had an ongoing volume battle all night.
Felt like a fool putting in so much effort. The lesson learned would be to make sure you play with people who know what you want to do (play loud in your case) and that you all are aligned. If its a paying gig and some people need the $$ you're the douche if you can't read the room and are unable to tone it down if needed. Don't take a quieter gig and go full ape knowing you dont want to play that way in the first place. Goes for everybody
If you tell me Niel Pert is your favorite drummer, I automatically know that you can't find the one on the way out of a fill. lol! If you tell me you're a Bonham guy... I know we're gonna have a good jam.
The problem with being a musician is you have to deal with other musicians.Fresh outta high school I joined a ski circuit band that had been playing together for 5 years, replacing a bassist they had for 3 years. They were all 25-28 years old, I was just turning 18. They were definitely pro players. The drummer was the oldest and had his kit and technique down AF. He was so easy to line up with, totally in the pocket night after night. 200+ songs, different set list every night. Powerful kick, great snare technique. When you're doing all different genres of songs from The Romantics and Huey Lewis to Willy Nelson to Judas Priest and such, he had a different approach that fit them all. He was absolutely amazing.
After that, every other drummer I played with was bullshit. I watched Vince Abbott from the beginning and was always blown away by how solid he was. He was definitely a pro level player by the time "Projects" came out.
By 1986-87, I had started writing with the early drum machines like the Boss Dr.Rythym.
Now? Fuck drummers. In fact, fuck people altogether.
I don't see the point in even playing guitar if I am not going to gig and work with others making music. It's a job, not fun and games. Jobs have downsides. I guess I always looked at it like a sort of career path so what other dumbass musicians do and think is irrelevant to what I'm doing.The problem with being a musician is you have to deal with other musicians.
…edit… Every time I feel the itch to play with people again, it quickly subsides as all the memories come back of instances where the frustration easily outweighed anything positive.