What were people buying in 1986.

[thiswaythatway]

 

[thiswaythatway]

HAHA.

 

[thiswaythatway]

Yngwie. Before all the Swedish meatballs.

 

[thiswaythatway]

 

[ratter]

I love that $500 divided the high end and low end. Oh, to have a time machine.

 

[Meathead]

In the late 80's I had never seen a Mesa amp on stage with a rock band up here.
95% of what I saw back then was Marshall...JMP's and 800's.

 

[shredhead666]

"What were people buying in 1986"

So... pretty much crap? God I love being alive today and having all the awesome choices we have now.

 

[thiswaythatway]

In the late 80's I had never seen a Mesa amp on stage with a rock band up here.
95% of what I saw back then was Marshall...JMP's and 800's.

When i started hanging out in clubs in 1990 i saw some Boogies in NJ/NY. 50% of the time they sounded like CRAP. Mostly because i feel those guys didn't know how to tweak them. I used to be a Marshall guy and when i first tried a MarkIV i put all the tone controls on 10, just like i did on my Marshalls, plugged in and thought it sounded like shit. HAHA, i had no clue how to tweak them.

But funny story is a friend of mine was a SICK shredder. He went to GIT in 1989 and his cover band did stuff like Satch Boogie, Scarified, Mr. Scary, various Paul GIlbert tunes, etc. And he had the typical ADA rig of the time. He alwaus incredibley accurate but his tone was always....weak. He borrowed someone's Mark III head and plugged straight in and it was the best tone he ever had. He was a big Boogie guy for a few years until he started drinking, got into Hendrix, and he never shredded again

True story. And FWIW, you can hear him playing on the movie CLerks, the first song that's playing when the movie starts

 

[thiswaythatway]

"What were people buying in 1986"

So... pretty much crap? God I love being alive today and having all the awesome choices we have now.

The 1986 list is littered with Fender, Ibanez, Jackson, Marshall, Peavey. Those same companies are leading the pack today in biggest sales. There's a lot than hasn't changed.

 

[shredhead666]

"What were people buying in 1986"

So... pretty much crap? God I love being alive today and having all the awesome choices we have now.

The 1986 list is littered with Fender, Ibanez, Jackson, Marshall, Peavey. Those same companies are leading the pack today in biggest sales. There's a lot than hasn't changed.

Yeah, only now those companies are using crappier building materials for their guitars, and producing SS hybrid amps.

Although at least you can say the SS amps of today are better than the SS amps of '86.

 

[Meathead]

In the late 80's I had never seen a Mesa amp on stage with a rock band up here.
95% of what I saw back then was Marshall...JMP's and 800's.

When i started hanging out in clubs in 1990 i saw some Boogies in NJ/NY. 50% of the time they sounded like CRAP. Mostly because i feel those guys didn't know how to tweak them. I used to be a Marshall guy and when i first tried a MarkIV i put all the tone controls on 10, just like i did on my Marshalls, plugged in and thought it sounded like shit. HAHA, i had no clue how to tweak them.

But funny story is a friend of mine was a SICK shredder. He went to GIT in 1989 and his cover band did stuff like Satch Boogie, Scarified, Mr. Scary, various Paul GIlbert tunes, etc. And he had the typical ADA rig of the time. He alwaus incredibley accurate but his tone was always....weak. He borrowed someone's Mark III head and plugged straight in and it was the best tone he ever had. He was a big Boogie guy for a few years until he started drinking, got into Hendrix, and he never shredded again

True story. And FWIW, you can hear him playing on the movie CLerks, the first song that's playing when the movie starts

I can tell from the Lonestar, they aren't simple to dial in...tiny adjustments can wreck havoc on your sound....add more preamp gain and every other knob must be moved as well.
Marshall's are voiced a certain way, just play, simple...the Mesa seems to be able to have a ton of sounds, unfortunately a lot can be bad.
I see a lot of people selling Mesa's saying it doesn't sound very good, but I think it's user error dialing it in most of the time.

Everyone I played with that had the ADA rig (actually that was pretty popular up here) had a bad tone IMO...but that could be user error too, who knows.

 

[thiswaythatway]

In the late 80's I had never seen a Mesa amp on stage with a rock band up here.
95% of what I saw back then was Marshall...JMP's and 800's.

When i started hanging out in clubs in 1990 i saw some Boogies in NJ/NY. 50% of the time they sounded like CRAP. Mostly because i feel those guys didn't know how to tweak them. I used to be a Marshall guy and when i first tried a MarkIV i put all the tone controls on 10, just like i did on my Marshalls, plugged in and thought it sounded like shit. HAHA, i had no clue how to tweak them.

But funny story is a friend of mine was a SICK shredder. He went to GIT in 1989 and his cover band did stuff like Satch Boogie, Scarified, Mr. Scary, various Paul GIlbert tunes, etc. And he had the typical ADA rig of the time. He alwaus incredibley accurate but his tone was always....weak. He borrowed someone's Mark III head and plugged straight in and it was the best tone he ever had. He was a big Boogie guy for a few years until he started drinking, got into Hendrix, and he never shredded again

True story. And FWIW, you can hear him playing on the movie CLerks, the first song that's playing when the movie starts

I can tell from the Lonestar, they aren't simple to dial in...tiny adjustments can wreck havoc on your sound....add more preamp gain and every other knob must be moved as well.
Marshall's are voiced a certain way, just play, simple...the Mesa seems to be able to have a ton of sounds, unfortunately a lot can be bad.
I see a lot of people selling Mesa's saying it doesn't sound very good, but I think it's user error dialing it in most of the time.

Everyone I played with that had the ADA rig (actually that was pretty popular up here) had a bad tone IMO...but that could be user error too, who knows.

Nah, the ADA MP1 into the Mosvalve poweramp with an Alesis Quadraverb just sounded like bacon sizzle. A few ads in Guitar Player magazine with guys like Vito Bratta saying it was the best rig ever and ADA's sold like hot cakes. As soon as Rectifiers came out everyone i knew sold their racks and bought either a Recto or a Marshall.

 

[Meathead]

Nah, the ADA MP1 into the Mosvalve poweramp with an Alesis Quadraverb just sounded like bacon sizzle. A few ads in Guitar Player magazine with guys like Vito Bratta saying it was the best rig ever and ADA's sold like hot cakes. As soon as Rectifiers came out everyone i knew sold their racks and bought either a Recto or a Marshall.

Vito did make it sound pretty good for his style. A good sound may be in there....like the Podxt.

If stuff is made 'not easy' to dial in you leave too much in the hands of the user...who can't figure it out.

 

[ratter]

Although at least you can say the SS amps of today are better than the SS amps of '86.

I don't know about that. I think I'd take a red-knob fender, or a pearce or GK over just about any SS or modelling amp you can buy today.

 

[Meathead]

Nah, the ADA MP1 into the Mosvalve poweramp with an Alesis Quadraverb just sounded like bacon sizzle. A few ads in Guitar Player magazine with guys like Vito Bratta saying it was the best rig ever and ADA's sold like hot cakes. As soon as Rectifiers came out everyone i knew sold their racks and bought either a Recto or a Marshall.

Vito did make it sound pretty good for his style. A good sound may be in there....like the Podxt.

If stuff is made 'not easy' to dial in you leave too much in the hands of the user...who can't figure it out.

Actually I remember in music class at high school, we had a Mk I combo in the music room to use...I didn't like it at all, but looking back (knowing what I know now about dialing in amps) I could've really dug it.

 

[Greazygeo]

Nah, the ADA MP1 into the Mosvalve poweramp with an Alesis Quadraverb just sounded like bacon sizzle. A few ads in Guitar Player magazine with guys like Vito Bratta saying it was the best rig ever and ADA's sold like hot cakes. As soon as Rectifiers came out everyone i knew sold their racks and bought either a Recto or a Marshall.

I had that same rig but different power amp....the other gtr player in my band had the same rig....they sounded pretty good, just pretty noisy and not quite there for rhythms. I'll have to see if I have any recordings of that stuff somewhere.....

 

[ke2]

Although at least you can say the SS amps of today are better than the SS amps of '86.

I don't know about that. I think I'd take a red-knob fender, or a pearce or GK over just about any SS or modelling amp you can buy today.

This was around the time many believed tubes to be extinct in a few years because of supply, I`ve read. I also believe that the `86 SS amps were better quality then than now. There were a lot of pros using the Pearces and GK`s. They had to withstand touring etc. Bedroom amps have probably never sounded better than now, though


Oh, and that picture of Gillis is teh secks! (not counting Gillis himself, accourse!)
I think I read the he played II B`s for the most part, but the promo ad might very well be C+`s.

Imagine having the stuff in that ad

 

[PeteLaramee]

Man this is going to seem sad, but I was just thinking about that article the other day. I had that mag when it came out. The things we choose to remember in life can be retarded.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Single pickup jackon with maple neck and Kahler! I used to love that setup back then

 

[Lord Toneking]

I was in high school then and I was buying doobies in the 'pit' (designated smoking area at school)


I would get 3 for $5, or 6 for $10