Which Diezel Would Work Best For My Band?

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silversurfer879":11ba8nae said:
Diezel is good but it's not as great as people say. It's significantly psychological. You'll find that the amp sounds great, but not a whole lot better. For the money you spend on a diezel, you're better off sticking to something that's been around like mesa. There's a reason these company's have stuck around for so long. If diezel was really as good as they say, then everybody would be forking over the money. Don't be a gullible musician. Try different things, but definitely don't spend the money on a diezel. It's completely unnecessary.

I'll give you a +1 in the concept that sonic excellence is largely in part to psychological preferences and imprinting - this is 100% true. But what you have to realize here, is that Diezel make by far some of the most recognizable tone-tuned amps in the entire industry. They are unique, distinctive, and recognizable. Mesa to Peavey to VHT to Marshall to Carvin to etc. are all in "one" area of "sound" - granted, there is some distinction amongst certain parameters, but the distinctions are all within a set scope. Diezel, OTOH, much like Bogner, Cornford, Fuchs, etc. is a boutique amp with a boutique "individual" sound unto itself and outside of the scope of all other comparable criteria of distinction as per other boutique amps. So this is the -1 which you knew was coming, and another BIG -1 for the fact this is your first and only post.

Good luck,
V.
 
silversurfer879":1zyiffsk said:
Ventura":1zyiffsk said:
silversurfer879":1zyiffsk said:
Diezel is good but it's not as great as people say. It's significantly psychological. You'll find that the amp sounds great, but not a whole lot better. For the money you spend on a diezel, you're better off sticking to something that's been around like mesa. There's a reason these company's have stuck around for so long. If diezel was really as good as they say, then everybody would be forking over the money. Don't be a gullible musician. Try different things, but definitely don't spend the money on a diezel. It's completely unnecessary.

I'll give you a +1 in the concept that sonic excellence is largely in part to psychological preferences and imprinting - this is 100% true. But what you have to realize here, is that Diezel make by far some of the most recognizable tone-tuned amps in the entire industry. They are unique, distinctive, and recognizable. Mesa to Peavey to VHT to Marshall to Carvin to etc. are all in "one" area of "sound" - granted, there is some distinction amongst certain parameters, but the distinctions are all within a set scope. Diezel, OTOH, much like Bogner, Cornford, Fuchs, etc. is a boutique amp with a boutique "individual" sound unto itself and outside of the scope of all other comparable criteria of distinction as per other boutique amps. So this is the -1 which you knew was coming, and another BIG -1 for the fact this is your first and only post.

Good luck,
V.



Being a little bit of an amp whore myself, I do have two herberts and a VH4. hahahaha Every amp sounds unique. I'm just an idiot and had the money to spend. I actually do some work from time to time with some producers at warner so I know what I'm talking about when it comes to tone. Again, if the tone was as good as you say, they would be bigger than they are. There's only so much sonic range human's can recognize and feel, but so much more they think they can. The tones not that recognizable. Not like a saldano is. I'd equate my herbert to a modded JSX with slightly more highs. I'd equate the VH4 to a saldano hot rod (I think) with more compression that you can't get rid of. And those are less than half the price.

But yes I do have a bone to pick with diezel. After not being too terribly impressed with the sound, I was won over by Terry. Furthermore the whole diezel story was intriguing and I fell in love with this idea of an honest warm hearted company that just believed in tone and giving people what they always wanted. Even though the tone wasn't as great as $5000 would have you believe, it was pretty damn good. I had every intention preaching the gospel of diezel myself.

Well after what they did to Terry, I will have no part. They're just another corporation. I'm sure this will be removed. Anything that's said against big brother will be removed to keep the propaganda pure. Almost reminds of a different germany about 65 years ago.

Given that, there's not much point in posting here anyway. I guess the battles over. No one cares, accept me.

Now you are here posting you propaganda? Terry is a fuck up....plain and simple.
 
silversurfer879":32odocyg said:
Ventura":32odocyg said:
silversurfer879":32odocyg said:
Diezel is good but it's not as great as people say. It's significantly psychological. You'll find that the amp sounds great, but not a whole lot better. For the money you spend on a diezel, you're better off sticking to something that's been around like mesa. There's a reason these company's have stuck around for so long. If diezel was really as good as they say, then everybody would be forking over the money. Don't be a gullible musician. Try different things, but definitely don't spend the money on a diezel. It's completely unnecessary.

I'll give you a +1 in the concept that sonic excellence is largely in part to psychological preferences and imprinting - this is 100% true. But what you have to realize here, is that Diezel make by far some of the most recognizable tone-tuned amps in the entire industry. They are unique, distinctive, and recognizable. Mesa to Peavey to VHT to Marshall to Carvin to etc. are all in "one" area of "sound" - granted, there is some distinction amongst certain parameters, but the distinctions are all within a set scope. Diezel, OTOH, much like Bogner, Cornford, Fuchs, etc. is a boutique amp with a boutique "individual" sound unto itself and outside of the scope of all other comparable criteria of distinction as per other boutique amps. So this is the -1 which you knew was coming, and another BIG -1 for the fact this is your first and only post.

Good luck,
V.



Being a little bit of an amp whore myself, I do have two herberts and a VH4. hahahaha Every amp sounds unique. I'm just an idiot and had the money to spend. I actually do some work from time to time with some producers at warner so I know what I'm talking about when it comes to tone. Again, if the tone was as good as you say, they would be bigger than they are. There's only so much sonic range human's can recognize and feel, but so much more they think they can. The tones not that recognizable. Not like a saldano is. I'd equate my herbert to a modded JSX with slightly more highs. I'd equate the VH4 to a saldano hot rod (I think) with more compression that you can't get rid of. And those are less than half the price.

But yes I do have a bone to pick with diezel. After not being too terribly impressed with the sound, I was won over by Terry. Furthermore the whole diezel story was intriguing and I fell in love with this idea of an honest warm hearted company that just believed in tone and giving people what they always wanted. Even though the tone wasn't as great as $5000 would have you believe, it was pretty damn good. I had every intention preaching the gospel of diezel myself.

Well after what they did to Terry, I will have no part. They're just another corporation. I'm sure this will be removed. Anything that's said against big brother will be removed to keep the propaganda pure. Almost reminds of a different germany about 65 years ago.

Given that, there's not much point in posting here anyway. I guess the battles over. No one cares, accept me.

I am not going to remove your post, you must have rig-talk confused with another board that likes to censor ;) . That said there is two sides to every story and the whole Diezel USA/ Terry story has another side you are not privy too and if you were you would understand why things went the way they want. Nuff said, hope you enjoy your Diezels and rig-talk.com. :thumbsup:
 
silversurfer879":sxfeiie1 said:
We've already discussed this in private and you had no evidence of any sort. People here should know about your warranty scam and that you are a liar and a cheat. You are why people hate america and again, rightfully so. Your anger stems from Terry catching you in your scam, you liar. You are the disease. You have no proof of anything. It seises to amaze me the arrogance and ignorance of you people. You are a shining beacon of hopelessness and deceit.

Now you have my attention motherfucker. If you really want this to get intresting keep fucking talking. I have each and every email sent back and forth to Terry. If I need to post them I will but all I did was ask about somkething I was told (a 1 year transferable warranty). He said there was never such a thing and that was the end of it. You can suck a fucking cock! Kthxbai :rock:
 
silversurfer879":1qnbkzf7 said:
Diezel is good but it's not as great as people say. It's significantly psychological. You'll find that the amp sounds great, but not a whole lot better. For the money you spend on a diezel, you're better off sticking to something that's been around like mesa. There's a reason these company's have stuck around for so long. If diezel was really as good as they say, then everybody would be forking over the money. Don't be a gullible musician. Try different things, but definitely don't spend the money on a diezel. It's completely unnecessary.

Hmmm... sounds like someone has an axe to grind here. Terry?
:D :lol: :LOL:
 
mraajr":2703r3bg said:
silversurfer879":2703r3bg said:
We've already discussed this in private and you had no evidence of any sort. People here should know about your warranty scam and that you are a liar and a cheat. You are why people hate america and again, rightfully so. Your anger stems from Terry catching you in your scam, you liar. You are the disease. You have no proof of anything. It seises to amaze me the arrogance and ignorance of you people. You are a shining beacon of hopelessness and deceit.

Now you have my attention motherfucker. If you really want this to get intresting keep fucking talking. I have each and every email sent back and forth to Terry. If I need to post them I will but all I did was ask about somkething I was told (a 1 year transferable warranty). He said there was never such a thing and that was the end of it. You can suck a fucking cock! Kthxbai :rock:

I have a feeling "silversurfer879" already has copies of those emails on his pc as well... if you catch my drift. ;)
 
I find it funny he has intimate details of my Terry and I's conversations. I guess becasue they are so "close" they talk about things like peoples warranties and what not.
 
fyi, the ip address for Silversurfer tracks to Atlanta GA, just sayin...
 
There's only one way to settle this... it's official... it's a rock off! :m17: :rock: :powpow: :rawk: :clap:
 
rareguitar":22c1b8k3 said:
fyi, the ip address for Silversurfer tracks to Atlanta GA, just sayin...

Shocking. :shocked: :lol: :LOL:

I had a feeling it would.

:D :lol: :LOL:
 
too much drama here, lets try to keep this on topic please.
 
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...and that's it!
 
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