) when I was younger...definitely the "I don't care, whatever" attitude I had scored high marks ...women are funny. They like the badboy usually, seems like confidence to them....women like the bull, not the insecure type.
The Big Snit
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Basically life is all about how you keep getting up after a hit...we all don't get what we want or get hurt from time to time. 
Man that's the most profound thing I've ever said.
Man that's the most profound thing I've ever said.
Qweklain
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I've lost time and time again being the "nice" guy... it has never payed off in any way shape or form for me here....
As to the rest who talk about the confidence thing, I am definately NOT confident I can tell you all that right now. Never have had any confidence in really anything besides my ungodly 1337 video game skillz. I think I have a LITTLE more than I did before, and I AM trying to walk more "should square," but not like some of these fucks who try way to hard and walk like they're in a full body cast.
The whole playing it like I don't care thing is tough... cuz then I would pretty much have to semi-ignore a girl if they talked to me or w/e, and if I did that I would feel like an ass... but then again maybe that's what I gotsta do.
airoz":b2c11 said::|::QBB:
oh sorry I misunderstood your post when you say'd that you where a total metalhead or something like thatand I know its hard being the nice guy, but I like to think that it pays off
I've lost time and time again being the "nice" guy... it has never payed off in any way shape or form for me here....
As to the rest who talk about the confidence thing, I am definately NOT confident I can tell you all that right now. Never have had any confidence in really anything besides my ungodly 1337 video game skillz. I think I have a LITTLE more than I did before, and I AM trying to walk more "should square," but not like some of these fucks who try way to hard and walk like they're in a full body cast.
The whole playing it like I don't care thing is tough... cuz then I would pretty much have to semi-ignore a girl if they talked to me or w/e, and if I did that I would feel like an ass... but then again maybe that's what I gotsta do.
badger71
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To the OP:
First piece of advice....don't shit where you eat. Office dating usually works out one way....the wrong way. Yes there are exceptions...but generally speaking, you'd be headed for some serious emotional/career pain going down this road.
Secondly....She gave you a bum number and then told you she had a man.... she's not interested. Good for you...see above. Now, here's where its going to get interesting. Treat her just like you did before....be cool, be friendly, but keep your distance. Ask her if she's got any friends with her similar interests. Are the divorced? Are they recently broken up? Daddy issues? All the better....find some damaged goods and get them at a discount price. Right now you've got the stench of desparation on you...big chick turnoff. You need the scent of snatch on you....big chick turn on. Dig? Mind you, this is only temporary. You only use the damaged goods until the top shelf stuff starts giving you the eye. Then its time to be ruthless....leave the chicks with issues behind and go for the goods.
Third....play the field. Quantity, in your position, is better than quality. Spread your number around. Eventually, you'll start getting calls...more than one at a time. Cut a chick off in mid call because another chick is calling....she'll only want you more...because you're wanted. Dig?
Fourth....cut your losses and admit defeat. Some chicks like black guys, mexican guys, preppy guys, metal guys, bald headed guys, blue eyed guys, etc....You might not be their attraction...which is cool....see second paragraph. But one thing that all chicks like is confidence....a man with his balls right where they should be. Don't be a puss.
First piece of advice....don't shit where you eat. Office dating usually works out one way....the wrong way. Yes there are exceptions...but generally speaking, you'd be headed for some serious emotional/career pain going down this road.
Secondly....She gave you a bum number and then told you she had a man.... she's not interested. Good for you...see above. Now, here's where its going to get interesting. Treat her just like you did before....be cool, be friendly, but keep your distance. Ask her if she's got any friends with her similar interests. Are the divorced? Are they recently broken up? Daddy issues? All the better....find some damaged goods and get them at a discount price. Right now you've got the stench of desparation on you...big chick turnoff. You need the scent of snatch on you....big chick turn on. Dig? Mind you, this is only temporary. You only use the damaged goods until the top shelf stuff starts giving you the eye. Then its time to be ruthless....leave the chicks with issues behind and go for the goods.
Third....play the field. Quantity, in your position, is better than quality. Spread your number around. Eventually, you'll start getting calls...more than one at a time. Cut a chick off in mid call because another chick is calling....she'll only want you more...because you're wanted. Dig?
Fourth....cut your losses and admit defeat. Some chicks like black guys, mexican guys, preppy guys, metal guys, bald headed guys, blue eyed guys, etc....You might not be their attraction...which is cool....see second paragraph. But one thing that all chicks like is confidence....a man with his balls right where they should be. Don't be a puss.
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BobbyL57
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This requires a very long answer which I will keep short. You will probably think I'm insane but I assure you it's all true. I understand your rage because I was there when I was young. We must try to understand why the people are the way they are.Women are the way they are because they have been scientifically indoctrinated to be promiscuous for their entire lives in order to destroy marriage and the family unit. This serves the agenda of the so-called new world order but there is a ton of bullshit out there about it. When you are promiscuous at a young age your bonds with the other sex will be very superficial for your entire life. Women are no longer capable of intimate relationships hence the skanky behaviour.
Society is the way it is because those at the top (the elite) have designed it that way. For more info see:
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/
Society is the way it is because those at the top (the elite) have designed it that way. For more info see:
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/
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Bob Savage
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Mike_V
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Exactly--good retort.
EightmanVT":ddc99 said::|::QBB:
Aww... we're watching a romance blossom right before our eyes
To the original poster - one thing women are good at - is picking up on vibes...much better than us men...for certain. I'm going to take a wild guess...just judging by your reaction and some of the other things you've posted - that she picked up on some vibes that she didn't dig. Seriously... you have "desperation" and "Woe is me..." all throughout your posts - you might not want to admit or recognize that...but it's there.
Confidence is key - get rid of that pity party shit...and chicks will come calling. Your post, to me, is riddled with insecurity...which chicks don't dig. Walk with your shoulders square, head up - convince yourself that you really are the shiznet -- and some other chick will start thinking that way too!! Worked for me...and I'm ugly!!!!
Exactly--good retort.
Qweklain
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Wow, not only is all that absolutely HILARIOUS as it is stated, but very, very good points/advice as well... thing is, how the hell would I get my number out?
As to the whole office dating thing, I already knew I was leaving there for a new, better job before I even initially approached her to get together sometime, so office BS there. And I think it may be possible I wrote down the wrong area code for her number juding by where she lives, but I never did try what I think it is and it don't matter now anyways.
As for my age, I'm 20 (and a 1/2 ). I do not drink though nor do I have any interest to, so nothing exciting about 21 for me. 
badger71":df078 said:To the OP:
First piece of advice....don't shit where you eat. Office dating usually works out one way....the wrong way. Yes there are exceptions...but generally speaking, you'd be headed for some serious emotional/career pain going down this road.
Secondly....She gave you a bum number and then told you she had a man.... she's not interested. Good for you...see above. Now, here's where its going to get interesting. Treat her just like you did before....be cool, be friendly, but keep your distance. Ask her if she's got any friends with her similar interests. Are the divorced? Are they recently broken up? Daddy issues? All the better....find some damaged goods and get them at a discount price. Right now you've got the stench of desparation on you...big chick turnoff. You need the scent of snatch on you....big chick turn on. Dig? Mind you, this is only temporary. You only use the damaged goods until the top shelf stuff starts giving you the eye. Then its time to be ruthless....leave the chicks with issues behind and go for the goods.
Third....play the field. Quantity, in your position, is better than quality. Spread your number around. Eventually, you'll start getting calls...more than one at a time. Cut a chick off in mid call because another chick is calling....she'll only want you more...because you're wanted. Dig?
Fourth....cut your losses and admit defeat. Some chicks like black guys, mexican guys, preppy guys, metal guys, bald headed guys, blue eyed guys, etc....You might not be their attraction...which is cool....see second paragraph. But one thing that all chicks like is confidence....a man with his balls right where they should be. Don't be a puss.
Wow, not only is all that absolutely HILARIOUS as it is stated, but very, very good points/advice as well... thing is, how the hell would I get my number out?
As to the whole office dating thing, I already knew I was leaving there for a new, better job before I even initially approached her to get together sometime, so office BS there. And I think it may be possible I wrote down the wrong area code for her number juding by where she lives, but I never did try what I think it is and it don't matter now anyways.
As for my age, I'm 20 (and a 1/2
). I do not drink though nor do I have any interest to, so nothing exciting about 21 for me.
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Echoes
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yup....single chicks are ALWAYS....ahmmm *A*L*W*A*Y*S looking for a husband! If you're walking around looking and acting like 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure' they are gonna dis you hard! They want someone that is confident, reliable, successful and funny but not arrogant...
all single guys are 'salesmen' you are selling yourself...don't be a puss or a crybaby or you might as well go GAY!....oh, and lose that 'Bill and Ted' shirt...it's cool to be into metal but dont be a fanboy ...this spells *LOSER* to most chicks....man up! or turn in your balls! 
badger71":b9eaa said:To the OP:
But one thing that all chicks like is confidence....a man with his balls right where they should be. Don't be a puss.
yup....single chicks are ALWAYS....ahmmm *A*L*W*A*Y*S looking for a husband! If you're walking around looking and acting like 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure' they are gonna dis you hard! They want someone that is confident, reliable, successful and funny but not arrogant...
all single guys are 'salesmen' you are selling yourself...don't be a puss or a crybaby or you might as well go GAY!....oh, and lose that 'Bill and Ted' shirt...it's cool to be into metal but dont be a fanboy
...this spells *LOSER* to most chicks....man up! or turn in your balls!
badger71
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You gotta fish where the fish are biting. Where do the 18-20.5 yr old girls hang out? That's where you go. Remember...quantity over quality. Approach girls that you think wouldn't give you the time of day...you'd be very surprised. Get out and market yourself. You need the social practice. Don't worry...you'll fail miserably at first....that's ok. Get back on the horse. Eventually you'll start getting some success...and once that happens....the ball will roll.
Qweklain":4259e said::|::QBB:
Wow, not only is all that absolutely HILARIOUS as it is stated, but very, very good points/advice as well... thing is, how the hell would I get my number out?
You gotta fish where the fish are biting. Where do the 18-20.5 yr old girls hang out? That's where you go. Remember...quantity over quality. Approach girls that you think wouldn't give you the time of day...you'd be very surprised. Get out and market yourself. You need the social practice. Don't worry...you'll fail miserably at first....that's ok. Get back on the horse. Eventually you'll start getting some success...and once that happens....the ball will roll.
flametal
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First keep playing the field, you'll find someone. Second why should hanging out with a girl mean she wants to be anything more than friends. She did nothing dishonest in not telling you she had a boyfriend.
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Shiny_Surface
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There's a New World Order now? I didn't even know 
Qweklain
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The first time I apporached her on this level I just asked her to hang out and she said maybe in a very upbeat tone, a positive tone if you will. Said I MIGHT call if I am not doing anything else on Thursday. Didn't call her (of course the number was wrong as I found out next week, but as I stated earlier I think I put the wrong area code). Then she sort of went awkward on me and didn't really talk to me much, then we started hitting it off again. Then the last night before we went totally oppoisite schedules I just asked her straight up if she had any interest at all in getting to know each other and that's when the usual "I have a boyfriend" line came up.
flametal":b4735 said:
The first time I apporached her on this level I just asked her to hang out and she said maybe in a very upbeat tone, a positive tone if you will. Said I MIGHT call if I am not doing anything else on Thursday. Didn't call her (of course the number was wrong as I found out next week, but as I stated earlier I think I put the wrong area code). Then she sort of went awkward on me and didn't really talk to me much, then we started hitting it off again. Then the last night before we went totally oppoisite schedules I just asked her straight up if she had any interest at all in getting to know each other and that's when the usual "I have a boyfriend" line came up.
skoora
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OK here's 2 cents from an older and wiser nice guy.
Your only cynical hope for long term lovin' as a nice guy is to wait until the chicks are done being treated like garbage and are finally reasonably secure and ready for a nice guy. Probably in their late 20's to mid 30's. Hopefully they're not too fucked up from ex-husbands and/or alcoholism/drugs.
All the advice about about being a player sounds great, and for people in their 20's it is pretty accurate BUT.... It's not realistic for nice guys. It will never be in you to fake those things as you'll always cave and be nice even if you think you're "playing". That shit is for the "friends instruct the buddy in all things playa" montage in the stupid guy meets girl romanta-thon at the multiplex.
You might get lucky and meet a nice girl who really wants a nice guy in the near future but honestly the 20's is a graveyard of insecurity and unknown identity. I didn't really come into my own with woman until I was in my mid/late 20's. But that was also because I came into my own for myself.
Right now you need to look at girls as people to have a good time with, not have a relationship with. When you meet girls avoid at all costs talking about relationships or "feelings" about men and woman. Especially if you really like them. It will instantly put you in the friend zone if you do. That girl will label you as the guy she can talk to about her relationships and the guy she's fucking. If they bring it up say something witty and change the subject.
Even nice girls want to feed off of a man's energy. They want to be entertained and surprised and entertained. Did I say entertained. Nice doen't need to be boring. Unfortunately it does take confidence to be comfortable leaving a girl hanging for more. The best thing is to just not give a fuck if anything happens and more often than not it will.
Compliment her, but don't care, be flippant about it.
Flirt a little, again be flippant.
Never fight or cling for her personal space in a group.
If your talking for an extended period make an excuse to leave or break away and talk to someone else, don't let it drag on.
You don't have to be an asshole to get girls but you can definitely dial back the nice factor quite a bit and still maintain your truthful identity.
It doesn't hurt to be nice to the female friends of a girl you like but not nearly as attentive to the girl herself. She'll wonder what's up, ask questions and get good feedback from her friends so she'll want to know more (if she thinks your cute...more like why the fuck isn't he paying attention to me). Catch her eye more that you would actually talk to her.
No matter what anyone says here, do not fuck the close friend or slutty aquaintence of a girl you really like. This to a nice girl will make you un-available.
If you're getting lucky with OK girls but nothing that's headliner material under no circumstances start being nice to where it morfs into a "thing". Never hang out with these girls more than 2 days in a row and by that I mean once breakfast is done (if it even goes that far), get the fuck out of there or send them home. If a girl puts up a fuss, just tell her you have shit to do and don't feel pressure to explain what that shit is. You can still do all that with a lighthearted tone and a smile. This is not being a dick. It's establishing a boundary that is perfectly reasonable. In fact if you actually say "get the fuck out" and can make them laugh and smile at you as they get the fuck out you have arrived!
Last but not least watch Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze and learn what being a man is all about!! "Ask them to leave, be nice. If they won't go, escort them, be nice"
....and don't try and learn anything from the movie Swingers.
Shit! that was $2 worth.
Your only cynical hope for long term lovin' as a nice guy is to wait until the chicks are done being treated like garbage and are finally reasonably secure and ready for a nice guy. Probably in their late 20's to mid 30's. Hopefully they're not too fucked up from ex-husbands and/or alcoholism/drugs.
All the advice about about being a player sounds great, and for people in their 20's it is pretty accurate BUT.... It's not realistic for nice guys. It will never be in you to fake those things as you'll always cave and be nice even if you think you're "playing". That shit is for the "friends instruct the buddy in all things playa" montage in the stupid guy meets girl romanta-thon at the multiplex.
You might get lucky and meet a nice girl who really wants a nice guy in the near future but honestly the 20's is a graveyard of insecurity and unknown identity. I didn't really come into my own with woman until I was in my mid/late 20's. But that was also because I came into my own for myself.
Right now you need to look at girls as people to have a good time with, not have a relationship with. When you meet girls avoid at all costs talking about relationships or "feelings" about men and woman. Especially if you really like them. It will instantly put you in the friend zone if you do. That girl will label you as the guy she can talk to about her relationships and the guy she's fucking. If they bring it up say something witty and change the subject.
Even nice girls want to feed off of a man's energy. They want to be entertained and surprised and entertained. Did I say entertained. Nice doen't need to be boring. Unfortunately it does take confidence to be comfortable leaving a girl hanging for more. The best thing is to just not give a fuck if anything happens and more often than not it will.
Compliment her, but don't care, be flippant about it.
Flirt a little, again be flippant.
Never fight or cling for her personal space in a group.
If your talking for an extended period make an excuse to leave or break away and talk to someone else, don't let it drag on.
You don't have to be an asshole to get girls but you can definitely dial back the nice factor quite a bit and still maintain your truthful identity.
It doesn't hurt to be nice to the female friends of a girl you like but not nearly as attentive to the girl herself. She'll wonder what's up, ask questions and get good feedback from her friends so she'll want to know more (if she thinks your cute...more like why the fuck isn't he paying attention to me). Catch her eye more that you would actually talk to her.
No matter what anyone says here, do not fuck the close friend or slutty aquaintence of a girl you really like. This to a nice girl will make you un-available.
If you're getting lucky with OK girls but nothing that's headliner material under no circumstances start being nice to where it morfs into a "thing". Never hang out with these girls more than 2 days in a row and by that I mean once breakfast is done (if it even goes that far), get the fuck out of there or send them home. If a girl puts up a fuss, just tell her you have shit to do and don't feel pressure to explain what that shit is. You can still do all that with a lighthearted tone and a smile. This is not being a dick. It's establishing a boundary that is perfectly reasonable. In fact if you actually say "get the fuck out" and can make them laugh and smile at you as they get the fuck out you have arrived!
Last but not least watch Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze and learn what being a man is all about!! "Ask them to leave, be nice. If they won't go, escort them, be nice"
....and don't try and learn anything from the movie Swingers.
Shit! that was $2 worth.
skoora
Well-known member
P.S the way a girl responds to you is not rocket science. If she likes you, she'll call back A.S.A.P. when you call or leave a message.
She'll quickly agree to getting together if you ask her out or at least figure out a free time and let you know.
If she hum's and ha's about a one on one get together. She's not into you that way.
It was written for chicks but maybe you should read this book
http://www.amazon.com/Just-That-Int...0541240?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181543042&sr=8-2
She'll quickly agree to getting together if you ask her out or at least figure out a free time and let you know.
If she hum's and ha's about a one on one get together. She's not into you that way.
It was written for chicks but maybe you should read this book
http://www.amazon.com/Just-That-Int...0541240?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181543042&sr=8-2
peaveyT60
New member
my advice is to masturbate until you get stinky dick. girls can smell it a mile off and will flock to you.