Why are woman the way they are? (VERY Angry right now)

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skoora":98d28 said:
OK here's 2 cents from an older and wiser nice guy.

Your only cynical hope for long term lovin' as a nice guy is to wait until the chicks are done being treated like garbage and are finally reasonably secure and ready for a nice guy. Probably in their late 20's to mid 30's. Hopefully they're not too fucked up from ex-husbands and/or alcoholism/drugs.

Last but not least watch Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze and learn what being a man is all about!! "Ask them to leave, be nice. If they won't go, escort them, be nice"

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Wow that is actually amazing fuckign advice for me since i am one of those nice guys... damn man, everything you siad makes a FUCK-TON of sense too with the whole early 20s thing...

Is there any way I could get it across now that we could just be friends or something? Even if I don't get her perhaps I'll meet some of her friends and go from there. I was thinking of putting a real simple note in her mailbox at work saying something like we could just be friends or some shit like that and to give me a buzz. If she doesn't it's not like I'm ever going to see or talk to her again...

I have seen Roadhouse like 5 times, EXCELLENT movie. So there is no problem there in doing what he does, minus the total ass kicking of course. :lol:
 
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skoora":01ee1 said:
OK here's 2 cents from an older and wiser nice guy.

Your only cynical hope for long term lovin' as a nice guy is to wait until the chicks are done being treated like garbage and are finally reasonably secure and ready for a nice guy. Probably in their late 20's to mid 30's. Hopefully they're not too fucked up from ex-husbands and/or alcoholism/drugs.

All the advice about about being a player sounds great, and for people in their 20's it is pretty accurate BUT.... It's not realistic for nice guys. It will never be in you to fake those things as you'll always cave and be nice even if you think you're "playing". That shit is for the "friends instruct the buddy in all things playa" montage in the stupid guy meets girl romanta-thon at the multiplex.

You might get lucky and meet a nice girl who really wants a nice guy in the near future but honestly the 20's is a graveyard of insecurity and unknown identity. I didn't really come into my own with woman until I was in my mid/late 20's. But that was also because I came into my own for myself.


Right now you need to look at girls as people to have a good time with, not have a relationship with. When you meet girls avoid at all costs talking about relationships or "feelings" about men and woman. Especially if you really like them. It will instantly put you in the friend zone if you do. That girl will label you as the guy she can talk to about her relationships and the guy she's fucking. If they bring it up say something witty and change the subject.

Even nice girls want to feed off of a man's energy. They want to be entertained and surprised and entertained. Did I say entertained. Nice doen't need to be boring. Unfortunately it does take confidence to be comfortable leaving a girl hanging for more. The best thing is to just not give a fuck if anything happens and more often than not it will.

Compliment her, but don't care, be flippant about it.
Flirt a little, again be flippant.
Never fight or cling for her personal space in a group.
If your talking for an extended period make an excuse to leave or break away and talk to someone else, don't let it drag on.

You don't have to be an asshole to get girls but you can definitely dial back the nice factor quite a bit and still maintain your truthful identity.

It doesn't hurt to be nice to the female friends of a girl you like but not nearly as attentive to the girl herself. She'll wonder what's up, ask questions and get good feedback from her friends so she'll want to know more (if she thinks your cute...more like why the fuck isn't he paying attention to me). Catch her eye more that you would actually talk to her.

No matter what anyone says here, do not fuck the close friend or slutty aquaintence of a girl you really like. This to a nice girl will make you un-available.

If you're getting lucky with OK girls but nothing that's headliner material under no circumstances start being nice to where it morfs into a "thing". Never hang out with these girls more than 2 days in a row and by that I mean once breakfast is done (if it even goes that far), get the fuck out of there or send them home. If a girl puts up a fuss, just tell her you have shit to do and don't feel pressure to explain what that shit is. You can still do all that with a lighthearted tone and a smile. This is not being a dick. It's establishing a boundary that is perfectly reasonable. In fact if you actually say "get the fuck out" and can make them laugh and smile at you as they get the fuck out you have arrived!

Last but not least watch Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze and learn what being a man is all about!! "Ask them to leave, be nice. If they won't go, escort them, be nice"

....and don't try and learn anything from the movie Swingers.


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That was a hell of a post and is very much on point! Do what he says, and you'll eventually have your own thread on here telling us how much ass you're taking down.

I think they play Roadhouse 24/7 on TBS, so it's not too hard to tune into that one for some Swayze tips.

And while we're talking about 80's hits, remember the line from "Back to School": "You don't lie to me, you lie to GIRLS"
 
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To the OP:

First piece of advice....don't shit where you eat. Office dating usually works out one way....the wrong way. Yes there are exceptions...but generally speaking, you'd be headed for some serious emotional/career pain going down this road.

Secondly....She gave you a bum number and then told you she had a man.... she's not interested. Good for you...see above. Now, here's where its going to get interesting. Treat her just like you did before....be cool, be friendly, but keep your distance. Ask her if she's got any friends with her similar interests. Are the divorced? Are they recently broken up? Daddy issues? All the better....find some damaged goods and get them at a discount price. Right now you've got the stench of desparation on you...big chick turnoff. You need the scent of snatch on you....big chick turn on. Dig? Mind you, this is only temporary. You only use the damaged goods until the top shelf stuff starts giving you the eye. Then its time to be ruthless....leave the chicks with issues behind and go for the goods.

Third....play the field. Quantity, in your position, is better than quality. Spread your number around. Eventually, you'll start getting calls...more than one at a time. Cut a chick off in mid call because another chick is calling....she'll only want you more...because you're wanted. Dig?

Fourth....cut your losses and admit defeat. Some chicks like black guys, mexican guys, preppy guys, metal guys, bald headed guys, blue eyed guys, etc....You might not be their attraction...which is cool....see second paragraph. But one thing that all chicks like is confidence....a man with his balls right where they should be. Don't be a puss. :thumbsup:
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another great post! a note on the "third" piece of advice... there doesn't really have to be another chick calling to cut one off and tell her another chick is calling. It's ok to lie :)
 
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You know how I know *you're* gay? You just told me you're not sleeping with women any more.
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Ha ha ha ha!
 
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Qweklain":7e4d6 said:
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Is there any way I could get it across now that we could just be friends or something? Even if I don't get her perhaps I'll meet some of her friends and go from there. I was thinking of putting a real simple note in her mailbox at work saying something like we could just be friends or some shit like that and to give me a buzz. If she doesn't it's not like I'm ever going to see or talk to her again...
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I'd avoid contacting / trying to be friends with her. Sounds good on paper but quite honestly, it might come across as a little creepy, especially after two rejections from her - especially after you just quit that job.
 
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I'd avoid contacting / trying to be friends with her. Sounds good on paper but quite honestly, it might come across as a little creepy, especially after two rejections from her - especially after you just quit that job.
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BIG +1 to this.
 
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I'd avoid contacting / trying to be friends with her. Sounds good on paper but quite honestly, it might come across as a little creepy, especially after two rejections from her - especially after you just quit that job.
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Yup. Not good. :no:

Cut your losses and move on, bro. Consider it a learning experience.
 
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Inearthed":06764 said:
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I'd avoid contacting / trying to be friends with her. Sounds good on paper but quite honestly, it might come across as a little creepy, especially after two rejections from her - especially after you just quit that job.
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Big +2

You gotta let that one go and if you're meant to be friends you'll run into each other again by happenstance and it won't seem like a big deal. If you do "run into her", have a pleasant chat but don't try and make plans. Don't mention the supposed boyfriend or show a hint of what happened before. Even though nothing actually happened you still emotionally vested in her so if you don't let time pass and get her out of your sytem you'll never be just "her friend". You basically have to honestly not care anymore if you see her or not. Then you'll be ready to be friends.
 
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skoora":3092f said:
OK here's 2 cents from an older and wiser nice guy.

Your only cynical hope for long term lovin' as a nice guy is to wait until the chicks are done being treated like garbage and are finally reasonably secure and ready for a nice guy. Probably in their late 20's to mid 30's. Hopefully they're not too fucked up from ex-husbands and/or alcoholism/drugs.

All the advice about about being a player sounds great, and for people in their 20's it is pretty accurate BUT.... It's not realistic for nice guys. It will never be in you to fake those things as you'll always cave and be nice even if you think you're "playing". That shit is for the "friends instruct the buddy in all things playa" montage in the stupid guy meets girl romanta-thon at the multiplex.

You might get lucky and meet a nice girl who really wants a nice guy in the near future but honestly the 20's is a graveyard of insecurity and unknown identity. I didn't really come into my own with woman until I was in my mid/late 20's. But that was also because I came into my own for myself.


Right now you need to look at girls as people to have a good time with, not have a relationship with. When you meet girls avoid at all costs talking about relationships or "feelings" about men and woman. Especially if you really like them. It will instantly put you in the friend zone if you do. That girl will label you as the guy she can talk to about her relationships and the guy she's fucking. If they bring it up say something witty and change the subject.

Even nice girls want to feed off of a man's energy. They want to be entertained and surprised and entertained. Did I say entertained. Nice doen't need to be boring. Unfortunately it does take confidence to be comfortable leaving a girl hanging for more. The best thing is to just not give a fuck if anything happens and more often than not it will.

Compliment her, but don't care, be flippant about it.
Flirt a little, again be flippant.
Never fight or cling for her personal space in a group.
If your talking for an extended period make an excuse to leave or break away and talk to someone else, don't let it drag on.

You don't have to be an asshole to get girls but you can definitely dial back the nice factor quite a bit and still maintain your truthful identity.

It doesn't hurt to be nice to the female friends of a girl you like but not nearly as attentive to the girl herself. She'll wonder what's up, ask questions and get good feedback from her friends so she'll want to know more (if she thinks your cute...more like why the fuck isn't he paying attention to me). Catch her eye more that you would actually talk to her.

No matter what anyone says here, do not fuck the close friend or slutty aquaintence of a girl you really like. This to a nice girl will make you un-available.

If you're getting lucky with OK girls but nothing that's headliner material under no circumstances start being nice to where it morfs into a "thing". Never hang out with these girls more than 2 days in a row and by that I mean once breakfast is done (if it even goes that far), get the fuck out of there or send them home. If a girl puts up a fuss, just tell her you have shit to do and don't feel pressure to explain what that shit is. You can still do all that with a lighthearted tone and a smile. This is not being a dick. It's establishing a boundary that is perfectly reasonable. In fact if you actually say "get the fuck out" and can make them laugh and smile at you as they get the fuck out you have arrived!

Last but not least watch Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze and learn what being a man is all about!! "Ask them to leave, be nice. If they won't go, escort them, be nice"

....and don't try and learn anything from the movie Swingers.


Shit! that was $2 worth.
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great post :thumbsup:
 
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Inearthed":81c4c said:
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I'd avoid contacting / trying to be friends with her. Sounds good on paper but quite honestly, it might come across as a little creepy, especially after two rejections from her - especially after you just quit that job.
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Yeah that's kinda what I figured. After I thought about it again I was like "ehhh, that actually could come off creepy, bad idea :doh: ". Well now that I'm leaving the airport I'm pretty much going to be completely anti-social so I dun think I'll be able to put any of this excellent advice to use. My new job consists of me only for 8 hours. I'm the only one working the shift.
 
Too bad you're not 21. Those are great hours to meet strippers and servers getting off work and having a bite and a cocktail. In Seattle we have bars that are also diners that serve again at 6am.
If you're OK with a girl dancing for a living and one step away from being a cokehead or alcoholic, a stripper can make a great sugar mama with no real commitment.
Actually being a nice guy can work in your favor as they are surrounded by jackass's and "playa" wannabe's that they have to smile and flirt with at their job. Somehow I ended up dating a few in my 20's.
Also you might tap into a graveyard shift scene if you can find a diner or 24 hour joint (that's Ok for minors) for after work. There are girls out there working GS too and need a guy with their schedule to make it work.

If anything use the solitude to clear your head and think about music. Can you take (sneak) a guitar to work. Could be a great time to jam/practice.
 
I think I learned early on not to be too nice to girls. As they get older, they want nice guys cause they are tired of getting fucked over. BUT they don't necessarily want a guy they can step on. Well, the bitches do. But we're talking about a woman that is relationship material.
 
Bottom line: Before you start trying to convince girls that you are the shit, you have to believe it yourself. Know it and make sure they know it. Girls who are in their 20's are not looking for some sappy homo to cry over them and confess their feelings. The only people who do that with girls are, you guessed it, their friends. If you do this, you will end up turning them off completely and causing them to not want to talk to you period or even worse, end up their friend. Never, EVER, reveal that you like a girl until you have her in the bag. You have to have them pining over you before you even think about saying something like that.

Not trying to sound harsh, that's just my .02

Tyler
 
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TWPietz37":e00f4 said:
Bottom line: Before you start trying to convince girls that you are the shit, you have to believe it yourself. Know it and make sure they know it. Girls who are in their 20's are not looking for some sappy homo to cry over them and confess their feelings. The only people who do that with girls are, you guessed it, their friends. If you do this, you will end up turning them off completely and causing them to not want to talk to you period or even worse, end up their friend. Never, EVER, reveal that you like a girl until you have her in the bag. You have to have them pining over you before you even think about saying something like that.

Not trying to sound harsh, that's just my .02

Tyler
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Gahhh... don't "reveal" you like a girl until you got them in the bag?? Well fuck my ass... there is one mistake I've done time and time again... and I don't know about that whole they don't want a sappy homo, I see a lot of attractive ladies with these emo guys that look like girls, so I don't know if I agree with that one... :thumbsdown: :gethim:
 
My rule, never be a womans friend, NEVER (unless she's ugly).
 
My rule, never be a womans friend, NEVER (unless she's ugly).
 
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