Will the Nova System work with Mod 50?

[RP Rad]

I am looking at using the new TC Electronics Nova System with my Mod 50. I only want to use the effects section and not the drive and I will run it into the loop. My question is will it work or do I just need to get Lexicon MPX1 with a midi control? I like the Nova cause and see it. Here are the specs. Digital Inputs and Outputs
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Analog Inputs
Connectors, balanced:
Impedance - Balanced/Unbalanced
Line Input Level @ 0 dBFS:
Line Sensitivity @ 12 dB headroom:
Drive Input Level @ 0 dBFS:
Drive Sensitivity @ 12 dB headroom:
THD:
Crosstalk:
A to D Conversion:
Analog Outputs
D to A Conversion:
D to A Delay:
Connectors, balanced:
Output Impedance:
Max. Output Level
(Balanced/Unbalanced
Output Range:
Dynamic Range:
THD:
Frequency Response:
EMC
Complies with:
Safety
Certified to:
Environment
Operating Temperature:
Storage Temperature:
Humidity:
Control Interface
MIDI:
Pedal:
Supplementary
Display:
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Warranty Parts and labor:
RCA Phono (S/PDIF)
S/PDIF (24 bit), EIAJ CP-340, IEC 958
44.1 kHz, 48 kHz
¼"phone jack
Line: 21/13 kOhm
24 dBu to 0 dBu
12 dBu to -12 dBu
18 dBu to -6 dBu
6 dBu to -18 dBu
< -100 dB (0,001 %) @ 1 kHz
<-85 dB, 20 Hz to 20 kHz
24 bit, 128 x oversampling bitstream
24 bit, 128 x oversampling bitstream
0.63/0.68 ms @ S.R.= 48/44.1 kHz
¼"phone jack
40 Ohm
20 dBu/14 dBu, R-load = 1200 Ohm
20 dBu / 14 dBu / 8 dBu / 2 dBu
> 104 dB, 20 Hz to 20 kHz
<-98 dB (0.0013 %) @ 1 kHz
+0/-0.3 dB, 20 Hz to 20 kHz

 

[richedie]

Well, I have the Nova delay and it works great! I have it in the parallel loop.

 

[RP Rad]

We maybe I will order one and see how it works. Thanks

 

[Orren]

I believe the main thing you need for a device to sound best in one of the Egnater loops is for it to be at line level. A pair of the Nova System's inputs are at line level, so it should work just fine.

FWIW, I too am thinking of getting this pedal for use with my Mod50.

Orren

 

[richedie]

I need help guys!!!!!!!!

I love having effects available, chorus, delay, reverb, flange, some EQ, etc. I use a Boss tuner, Jacques Meistersinger chorus, Nova Delay and ISP noise reduction. Can this unit replace these pedals convinsingly? I have to use my chorus up front because my Egnater MOD 50 has a line level loop. sometimes I think chorus is best out front.

If I got one, I would get it from Guitar Center and make sure it is a NEW one so there are NO problems and so I could return if I do not like it.

Have any of you replaced good analog and digital pedals with this unit? Do you miss your boutique pedals? I am impressed with the Nova delay and DO NOT notice big tone sucking problems and do not care if it is true bypass or not. Good qualioty gear like MXR, TC, etc all can impact tone but not in a bad way, know what I mean? Again, my Nova delay is well built and works great but is the Nova system of similar quality?

Having one unit for all my effects would solve some issues for me! I don;'t want to go rack, since I have a head and not a rack preamp/poweramp.

Can this be used with midi since my head is midi capable? Have you guys found the Nova System saved you all headaches from multiple pedals?
Would be nice just having midi, though.....but I don't want a whole rack set up unless I ditched my head.

Can you do solo boosts with this unit, a combination of mid boost and delay without too much alteration in amp tone???

Can you bypass the whole system easily? is it quiet? Any noticable tone suck?

This would allow me to have a Tuner - Wah - ISP noise reduction - amp - (loop - send) - Nova System - (loop return) - amp.

But, it would have to run in the series loop if you want to use all effects. Is this a problem since you can't take advantage of not going through the loop at times like with the parallel loop?

Thoughts??????

Thanks all!!!!!!!!! Much appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks again!!!

 

[EWSEthan]

Rich, I think Nova System is basically G-System "lite" isnt it? Which means its basically a rack unit that sits on the floor. So I would think it would work fine. Whether or not you like the sound will be the question.

Dude, why dont you just take your MOD 50 to a Guitar Center and plug a Nova System into it? You'll find out pretty quickly whether you like it or not!

 

[richedie]

Looks like I can control the MOD 50 with the midi of the NOVA as well! I may pick one up at G Center once they get some bugs out.

 

[jmgman69]

Looks like I can control the MOD 50 with the midi of the NOVA as well! I may pick one up at G Center once they get some bugs out.

AHHHH just go get it Damnit!!!!

 

[aeroic]

Looks like I can control the MOD 50 with the midi of the NOVA as well! I may pick one up at G Center once they get some bugs out.

AHHHH just go get it Damnit!!!!

I totally agree! Go get one from Musicians Friend. If you don't like it you have 45 days to take it back! I do it all the time .

Eric

 

[Audioholic]

I have the G-system, and it has worked Great in Series loops on all amps I have tried it on, plugging the guitar into the amp, and running through the efx loop. I am assuming the Nova will be just as great.

 

[aeroic]

I've been using the Lexicon MPXG2 for like 7 years or something absurd like that! I have used it with many many amps in parallel efx loops, series efx loops, etc. It works great in both. I personally am a series efx loop guy anyways, since the Lexicon MPXG2 can act in parallel w/ your dry tone, which is how I run it. I really notice very little to no degredation of tone w/ the MPXG2. I love it to death! The noise gate is to die for! So are the verbs and delays!

Eric

 

[jmgman69]

I have the G-system, and it has worked Great in Series loops on all amps I have tried it on, plugging the guitar into the amp, and running through the efx loop. I am assuming the Nova will be just as great.

I totall dig the G!!!!!!!!!!

 

[richedie]

I've been using the Lexicon MPXG2 for like 7 years or something absurd like that! I have used it with many many amps in parallel efx loops, series efx loops, etc. It works great in both. I personally am a series efx loop guy anyways, since the Lexicon MPXG2 can act in parallel w/ your dry tone, which is how I run it. I really notice very little to no degredation of tone w/ the MPXG2. I love it to death! The noise gate is to die for! So are the verbs and delays!

Eric

That a rack unit?

 

[EWSEthan]

I've been using the Lexicon MPXG2 for like 7 years or something absurd like that! I have used it with many many amps in parallel efx loops, series efx loops, etc. It works great in both. I personally am a series efx loop guy anyways, since the Lexicon MPXG2 can act in parallel w/ your dry tone, which is how I run it. I really notice very little to no degredation of tone w/ the MPXG2. I love it to death! The noise gate is to die for! So are the verbs and delays!

Eric

That a rack unit?

Probably, Eric likes big racks.

 

[aeroic]

I've been using the Lexicon MPXG2 for like 7 years or something absurd like that! I have used it with many many amps in parallel efx loops, series efx loops, etc. It works great in both. I personally am a series efx loop guy anyways, since the Lexicon MPXG2 can act in parallel w/ your dry tone, which is how I run it. I really notice very little to no degredation of tone w/ the MPXG2. I love it to death! The noise gate is to die for! So are the verbs and delays!

Eric

That a rack unit?

Probably, Eric likes big racks.

Yep its a rack unit. Its one that Petrucci used for quite a while along side his TC 2290 (or whatever number it is!).

I picked one up in the 2001-2002 timeframe and have loved it ever since!

Oh and yes I love big racks of all kinds!!!! Not just guitar racks!!

 

[richedie]

My biggest thing with the Mod 50 is effects that rob punch and dynamics. I want to retain what this amp is. Still not sure about the TC Electronics stuff.

 

[aeroic]

My biggest thing with the Mod 50 is effects that rob punch and dynamics. I want to retain what this amp is. Still not sure about the TC Electronics stuff.

i definitely don't lose punch or dynamics w/ the Lexicon MPXG2. It has the ability to mix in the "dry signal" with every effect in a patch. So if I have a patch that has a chorus, delay, reverb, and compressor on at the same time, I am able to mix in the amount per effect of the dry signal I want to come through. On nearly every effect minus compressor I run the dry signal at 0 db (which is basically 100% dry signal mix), and use the effect post mix to dial in the level of the effect I want mixed in based on the tone I am looking for.

I honestly don't really hear any difference between my tone w/ and w/o the Lexicon. Its a unit I could NOT live w/o.

Eric

 

[Audioholic]

My biggest thing with the Mod 50 is effects that rob punch and dynamics. I want to retain what this amp is. Still not sure about the TC Electronics stuff.

just have to be good about selecting what efx to use, and how much. I love the G-system, very transparent and non tone robbing efx. I run it in series, that way I can assign different wet/dry levels on an individual efx basis. if anything, just use some light efx, some light delay, some light verb, shouldn't rob your tone at all, specially with the higher end TC stuff, really great fx. Me, I am an efx junkie, make it part of my sound, sometimes I use very little for certain stuff, sometimes it has gobs of juice on it.

 

[Doubleneck]

+1 on the TC stuff.
Been using a G-Force for about 5 years and love it!
You can't go wrong with TC.

 

[richedie]

I tend to like analog effects, chorus, delay etc....and when i bought the Egnater I promised myself I would collect the individual pedals Iiked and didn't want to use a digital rack for fear of ruining my tone or having to go through ther hassle of prgramming effects to patches. I hate that with programmable effects you are limited in making changes on the fly...where with a few basic pedals on the floor, you have easy access and controls. I have noticed that some digital units really kill punch and dynamics, maybe due to the converters.