XTC 101B vs. CAE OD-50 vs. Cameron vs. Mako, torn!

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I have owned 2 Bogner Ecstasy amps including the "holy grail" 100B. I have owned the Makoplex. I have owned 7 or 8 different Camerons and I am a dealer for Splawn amplifiers.

The Bogners were amps that always seemed so close to the right sound. So close! Tweak this knob, flip that switch turn this knob, flip the switch back, turn on the variac, try the pentode/triode switch etc etc etc. ENDLESS knob turning and switch flicking and NEVER getting exactly what I wanted to hear. I sold them both in frustration after giving them countless chances to win me over.

The Makoplex I recently owned was the very last point to point Makoplex Andrew made. To tell you the truth, I thought that amp was horrible. There was nothing wrong with it either. I sold it to a guy that had another one and he loves it. I could just not jive with that amp. I am all about hot-rodded plexi tones too. I have vintage Marshall Super Leads and a Mojave Peacemaker and a Cameron Jose so i like THAT sound. The Mako missed the mark by 100 miles FOR ME.

The Cameron stuff is great. Juicy, liquidy lead tone and notes just scream off the neck. The voicing seems to be more high mids oriented and there is a bit of sizzle to it. Not so much where it's fizzy, but it definitely has some sizzle to it. A guy could have an entire career as a guitar hero that everyone raves about his tone just having a single Cameron in his arsenal.

The amp I have been playing the most lately is my Splawn Quickrod. For leads it isn't quite as "juicy" as the Cameron but it has more low mids and is smoother in the highs. It doesn't have that sizzle like the Camerons, but I normally try and dial out as much sizzle as possible and on the Quickrod that is very easy. I know you have ruled out the Splawn stuff for whatever reason, but with the amps on your list, for me the Cameron should be on the list and add the Quickrod to it and either of those should get it done for you.

And the OD100? Great amp for what it does but seems to be geared towards a different type of player than the other amps on your list.
 
Chubtone":6e0c5 said:
I have owned 2 Bogner Ecstasy amps including the "holy grail" 100B. I have owned the Makoplex. I have owned 7 or 8 different Camerons and I am a dealer for Splawn amplifiers.

The Bogners were amps that always seemed so close to the right sound. So close! Tweak this knob, flip that switch turn this knob, flip the switch back, turn on the variac, try the pentode/triode switch etc etc etc. ENDLESS knob turning and switch flicking and NEVER getting exactly what I wanted to hear. I sold them both in frustration after giving them countless chances to win me over.

The Makoplex I recently owned was the very last point to point Makoplex Andrew made. To tell you the truth, I thought that amp was horrible. There was nothing wrong with it either. I sold it to a guy that had another one and he loves it. I could just not jive with that amp. I am all about hot-rodded plexi tones too. I have vintage Marshall Super Leads and a Mojave Peacemaker and a Cameron Jose so i like THAT sound. The Mako missed the mark by 100 miles FOR ME.

The Cameron stuff is great. Juicy, liquidy lead tone and notes just scream off the neck. The voicing seems to be more high mids oriented and there is a bit of sizzle to it. Not so much where it's fizzy, but it definitely has some sizzle to it. A guy could have an entire career as a guitar hero that everyone raves about his tone just having a single Cameron in his arsenal.

The amp I have been playing the most lately is my Splawn Quickrod. For leads it isn't quite as "juicy" as the Cameron but it has more low mids and is smoother in the highs. It doesn't have that sizzle like the Camerons, but I normally try and dial out as much sizzle as possible and on the Quickrod that is very easy. I know you have ruled out the Splawn stuff for whatever reason, but with the amps on your list, for me the Cameron should be on the list and add the Quickrod to it and either of those should get it done for you.

And the OD100? Great amp for what it does but seems to be geared towards a different type of player than the other amps on your list.

I have been considering a Splawn for a while. I go back and forth with it really, I don't know why! lol...How are the cleans on the newest version. To tell you the truth, I'm really dying to try the Mako...If it isn't my thing then I'll unload it, but I really wanna try it out. I appreciate your honesty though! It is a never ending search!

-Joe
 
Joe!!!! Give me a call man! You know that you're always welcome to come over and try out my Cameron's
 
I found the gain channel of the CAE a bit boring ... sounded good but lacked a distinctive character.

I think what you really want, gorgeous cleans, plexi in ch2 and great rock tone ala AIC ... you gotta go try an XTC Classic. There's no better match than this amp for you I think.
 
Paige! I'd like to try those bad boys out....BUT I have a feeling if gybe! decides to let the Makoplex go I'll have tp jump on it. :D Where are you living now? I forgot...When is a good day for you?

-Joe
 
Well boys, I had a bit of a change of heart....

I decided to keep the cost down even more so I can buy a new 4x12 too. So I got a brand new DSL 50 for a good price. I've always dug Marshalls, even the newer ones.. With some tweaks and a great OD ( I have a BB preamp) I think it will suit my needs well. I'm thinking of upgrading the output tranny and biasing it colder.

Thanks to those who offered up suggestions and helped. Even though I didn't choose one of these amps it helped tp hear all your opinions. I still plan on getting a Mako, most likely in Dec. when Andrew resumes production of the Makoplex.

-Joe
 
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