The Rise of youtube musician channels

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I don’t understand the guys who make a long video with a guitar in hand and the amp there…and then just taaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllkkk about it. It’s a fucking amp with the same controls and features as every other amp in its targeted genre. You just grab the time cursor and drag, drag, drag, drag until you see the fingers move on the guitar, But! Be careful! Or you’ll drag past the 20 seconds of playing and be back into another 2 minutes of taaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllkkkking before “now, let’s engage the boost”. Also every EQ adjustment will be so small you don’t hear a difference and we don’t need to adjust the gain or volume on this 3 channel, multi voice amp to get it, right?
 
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DanTravis62 said:
YouTube has completed the metamorphosis of the music industry from an art focused one to a sales and propaganda focused one
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Art for arts sake is a fleeting dream in a capitalist, technological driven society like ours. The more art or expression gets monetized is just a reflection of the desperation of people who have had more traditional avenues of making a living decimated.
 
Shask said:
I have been around the forums since Harmony Central around 1996.

... and people talk to me like I dont know gear, lol.
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harmony central i believe was the first website i ever went to, i remember being in middle school and printing out zep and sabbath tabs in the library which had the only computer in the school at that time, that had to be either 95 or 96. i went more for the tabs and reviews than the forums at first, then i lurked the forums for a while before actually ever posting.
 
skoora said:
Art for arts sake is a fleeting dream in a capitalist, technological driven society like ours. The more art or expression gets monetized is just a reflection of the desperation of people who have had more traditional avenues of making a living decimated.
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It's not a zero sum game, and it was never 100% art for art's sake.

But 50 years ago you could be ugly and talented and make a living playing music - now you can't. The ratio has changed, and not because of tradional avenues of income disappearing.
 
VonBonfire said:
Whatever became of him? That's what I'd really like to know. I've asked a few times around here and my question just got ignored.
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Zachman is still in Hawaii, still hoarding rack gear and close buddies of Braddah Pat aka @mentoneman Both those guys were OG Hawaii metalheads back with Marty Friedman and Mark Kaleiwahea of Sacred Rite. Check this clip of Kaleiwahea absolutely nailing some VH (Mark has 15 subscribers haha )

 
* velcro-fly * said:
Zachman is still in Hawaii, still hoarding rack gear and close buddies of Braddah Pat aka @mentoneman Both those guys were OG Hawaii metalheads back with Marty Friedman and Mark Kaleiwahea of Sacred Rite. Check this clip of Kaleiwahea absolutely nailing some VH (Mark has 15 subscribers haha )

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Thanks velcro. Zachman brought that aloha spirit when I wasn't being very aloha. I'm glad he is well and I am glad I finally took him up on his invite to rig talk.
 
Sick Michael said:
"Without any Further Ado, Lets get into it"

Why is this irritating me. Anyone else?
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I hate the US habit of saying "Wassup" at the beginning of every youtube video. Like somehow you're cool/edgy if you say dickhead things like "wassup"
 
skoora said:
I don’t understand the guys who make a long video with a guitar in hand and the amp there…and then just taaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllkkk about it. It’s a fucking amp with the same controls and features as every other amp in its targeted genre. You just grab the time cursor and drag, drag, drag, drag until you see the fingers move on the guitar, But! Be careful! Or you’ll drag past the 20 seconds of playing and be back into another 2 minutes of taaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllkkkking before “now, let’s engage the boost”. Also every EQ adjustment will be so small you don’t hear a difference and we don’t need to adjust the gain or volume on this 3 channel, multi voice amp to get it, right?
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Amp demos on a youtube video are also ridiculous. For example listening to a tube amp in real life vs a modelled amp eg. A Fender Twin vs a Tonemaster Twin on a youtube video might sound similar. In a real room I can hear the difference in compression between the two immediately.

@VonBonfire will back me up here I'm sure.
 
Thumbpicker said:
@VonBonfire will back me up here I'm sure.
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I have come up with a good solution to improve any piece of modeling equipment.

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Thumbpicker said:
Amp demos on a youtube video are also ridiculous. For example listening to a tube amp in real life vs a modelled amp eg. A Fender Twin vs a Tonemaster Twin on a youtube video might sound similar. In a real room I can hear the difference in compression between the two immediately.

@VonBonfire will back me up here I'm sure.
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I absolutely hate the Tone Master amps, overcharged for what they are. I think they are overpriced and I do agree that you may as well get the real thing. Especially at that price. However, there are some great modeling options out there, especially for going direct. In a room, the UAFX Ruby, when outputted through a Fender FR12 really does sound as good as an actual vintage Vox AC30. I don't think anyone can legitimately argue that. Going Direct, can sound and feel better than the actual thing.

But all that said, there's nothing like having the speaker and power of the hot tubes blasting the audience, right in your face. The airflow of the amp. Realistically, nobody really goes for bigger amps though, we aren't in the 80's so it's almost a rarity to see people gig with cranked large tube amps or even without attenuation.

And we all know I'm a fan of UAFX modeling pedals... but even more of a fan for Fender and Marshall all tube vintage amps :)
 
SteveGlitch said:
I absolutely hate the Tone Master amps, overcharged for what they are. I think they are overpriced and I do agree that you may as well get the real thing. Especially at that price. However, there are some great modeling options out there, especially for going direct. In a room, the UAFX Ruby, when outputted through a Fender FR12 really does sound as good as an actual vintage Vox AC30. I don't think anyone can legitimately argue that. Going Direct, can sound and feel better than the actual thing.

But all that said, there's nothing like having the speaker and power of the hot tubes blasting the audience, right in your face. The airflow of the amp. Realistically, nobody really goes for bigger amps though, we aren't in the 80's so it's almost a rarity to see people gig with cranked large tube amps or even without attenuation.

And we all know I'm a fan of UAFX modeling pedals... but even more of a fan for Fender and Marshall all tube vintage amps :)
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My Hot Rod Deville 212 is too loud for me because I have hearing loss and tinnitus. I tried a Tonemaster twin hoping the attenuator would sound ok but it was nothing like my Deville's dynamics. You can feel the air/oomph of the HR Deville 212 (I have Eminence cannabis Rex's in it) - the Tonemaster twin feels "flat". Anyway I have put a master volume control in my effects loop and saved myself the money. Mostly at home I just use Solid State Roland Cubes like an 80GX. They may feel a bit flat but they are a hell of lot cheaper than a Tonemaster 212 and they actually sound fine for me because I just play clean anyway. I have a Fender DRRI for recording too - even that can be a bit loud when you have tinnitus. I love the sound of it but I couldn't practice with it for hours a day without stuffing my hearing further. It's fine to use mic'd up with a re-amper for recording though. I can walk into another room while the re-amping is happening.
 
Thumbpicker said:
My Hot Rod Deville 212 is too loud for me because I have hearing loss and tinnitus. I tried a Tonemaster twin hoping the attenuator would sound ok but it was nothing like my Deville's dynamics. You can feel the air/oomph of the HR Deville 212 (I have Eminence cannabis Rex's in it) - the Tonemaster twin feels "flat". Anyway I have put a master volume control in my effects loop and saved myself the money. Mostly at home I just use Solid State Roland Cubes like an 80GX. They may feel a bit flat but they are a hell of lot cheaper than a Tonemaster 212 and they actually sound fine for me because I just play clean anyway. I have a Fender DRRI for recording too - even that can be a bit loud when you have tinnitus. I love the sound of it but I couldn't practice with it for hours a day without stuffing my hearing further. It's fine to use mic'd up with a re-amper for recording though. I can walk into another room while the re-amping is happening.
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Roland still makes the best solid state amps for sure. I'd pit a Roland JC120 against any tube combo amp. The JC120 is still preferred by the best and greatest shoegaze amps after all :)
 
VH1R2 said:
This is old, Tina can shredd.

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After the 8 year hiatus, she (and her band) recently popped up again, but nothing will top those covers from almost a decade ago.



skoora said:
Something that fills me with joy, on a thumbnail, are two magic words after the amp name…..”No Talking”
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Yo, for real. Sometimes, I do want an explanation of stuff though, but "No talking" is almost a must-click for me if I'm interested in the amp/pedal.
 
I dislike amp demos that don't explore the range of the controls, get different sounds, and move quickly on to various pedals...I want to hear what the amp does, how the different controls effect the sound, in depth and thorough...if I like what I hear, then sure let's see how it takes pedals...

if you're demoing an amp, focus on that, be thorough...I'd also like to hear the amp into a speaker cab, and no / minimal post processing....am I hearing the amp or amp + light/heavy post processing?!

For amp demos, I like Euge Valovirta and Johan Segeborn for example, In the Blues channel is ok - I liked his DSL40CR demo/review; Leon Todd, Studio Rats, and a few more...most others I abandon quickly
 
rsm said:
I dislike amp demos that don't explore the range of the controls, get different sounds, and move quickly on to various pedals...I want to hear what the amp does, how the different controls effect the sound, in depth and thorough...if I like what I hear, then sure let's see how it takes pedals...

if you're demoing an amp, focus on that, be thorough...I'd also like to hear the amp into a speaker cab, and no / minimal post processing....am I hearing the amp or amp + light/heavy post processing?!

For amp demos, I like Euge Valovirta and Johan Segeborn for example, In the Blues channel is ok - I liked his DSL40CR demo/review; Leon Todd, Studio Rats, and a few more...most others I abandon quickly
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I could record my amps with minimal processing using decent microphones and it would really give you no idea what it's like in my actual room.
 
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