About to turn this thing in for the first time. Reissue Recto

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braintheory said:
What would be some examples of where you set the bias in a given amp? For most modern high gain amps I don't want them with the volume up too high to the point where you start to lose noticeable definition and get power amp sag, but it needs to be enough where it opens up with punch and power and loses the low volume fizz. But in either case, I think with these amps even with low gain, low volume and low bias if one is shocked by it seeming too stiff they're most likely just not used to playing decent quality amps imo or unaware that you can also just turn up the gain and volume if needed lol
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Maybe someday you can come try it
You’re welcome to
 
Techdeth said:
When people through my rig they say it’s too stiff not enough gain . My main tone factor is picking hard and pick hard even and consistently . The tone is truly on the hands once you have a great amp . But ya people always are shocked once they plug in
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You're gonna hate my rig, I have to use way to much gain to cover my slop. :p
 
Cool wife to drag a tube amp to a bar.
She must be strong

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Thanks for posting clips @311splawndude !

Unfortunately, that clip is an example of exactly what sam and I are talking about with the flubby low end on the palm mutes :ROFLMAO:

It does have that signature "growl" on the open chords, which is the best part of the sound though

I think it's just a horses for courses thing
 
DanTravis62 said:
Thanks for posting clips @311splawndude !

Unfortunately, that clip is an example of exactly what sam and I are talking about with the flubby low end on the palm mutes :ROFLMAO:

It does have that signature "growl" on the open chords, which is the best part of the sound though

I think it's just a horses for courses thing
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Oh yeah, I get your arguments. :yes: If I said I thought the Dual Rectifier was great for a tight low end chugging then I apologize. It is tighter now with the Pre 500 'C' mod. Still won't be anything like a Wizard or your Larry. I personally like the balance of juice and tightness the Recto's have. I would say my Single Rec is tighter with less organic juiciness and the Splawn being almost the opposite of the Dual.

I was just responding to a request for clips knowing mine won't be the best example. Some of the Dual Rectifier clips these other guys have posted are insanely good. That, and my clip was with a cell phone, unboosted, and low volume. :dunno:

Thanks for listening :cheers:
 
311splawndude said:
Oh yeah, I get your arguments. :yes: If I said I thought the Dual Rectifier was great for a tight low end chugging then I apologize. It is tighter now with the Pre 500 'C' mod. Still won't be anything like a Wizard or your Larry. I personally like the balance of juice and tightness the Recto's have. I would say my Single Rec is tighter with less organic juiciness and the Splawn being almost the opposite of the Dual.

I was just responding to a request for clips knowing mine won't be the best example. Some of the Dual Rectifier clips these other guys have posted are insanely good. That, and my clip was with a cell phone, unboosted, and low volume. :dunno:

Thanks for listening :cheers:
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I actually think your clip is a great example :dunno: It sounds like a really good representation of "the sound" I think

It's just a matter of whether "the sound" works for you or not
 
braintheory said:
Maybe they're just not used to decent tube amps, not sure. Sometimes when they say not enough gain they mean something else also. What are some examples of where you set the gain levels on some of your amps? Or if it's not the gain levels, then what you just bias the amps super cold? Like below 10mA? Lundgren M6's also would push the amps pretty well. I mostly play low output pickups in the 6-8k range, but I love my M6's too
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10ma isn't cold bias, it's Holyshittheampsoundsterrible bias. Ugh. Cold on a Recto would be 20ma; usually with spongy/tube settings. That same tube, when you switch to bold/diode will jump up to 35-40ma. Probably why I like those settings best.
 
Techdeth said:
i like cold bias . It keeps it tight . I also don’t run my amps up super loud so all that nasty sponginess people like a non existent . I set up for time not playability at all . It was hard for me at first too . But it’s what’s needed . For me
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Can you share an isolated single tracked riff so we can hear?
 
The recto is more polarizing that i would have guessed. The channelism is great.

I am so excited to play the thing and report back. I will be chugging on the motherfucker, too; albeit with a boost
 
Racerxrated said:
10ma isn't cold bias, it's Holyshittheampsoundsterrible bias. Ugh. Cold on a Recto would be 20ma; usually with spongy/tube settings. That same tube, when you switch to bold/diode will jump up to 35-40ma. Probably why I like those settings best.
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Yeah I know. Was just trying to get a sense of what his preferences were
 
I remember in the 90's you could NOT get away from a Recto. It was THE amp.
What's old is new again..
 
braintheory said:
Maybe the guys that like the more sterile/less harmonic sound of the red ch are the same guys that like other sterile amps like the UU, Driftwood, Omega and others I'll stop at lol.
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both channels are great. Saying that some very iconic guitarists have shitty taste and like sterile amps… what? lol come on man
 
Smash said:
The recto is more polarizing that i would have guessed. The channelism is great.

I am so excited to play the thing and report back. I will be chugging on the motherfucker, too; albeit with a boost
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If you can get a TC style to use with it, it’s the way to go.

Also if it is an old 2 channel recto, on the back make sure if it’s on orange to modern that when you toggle to the red channel put it back in the normal setting. If you mess around with the vintage I can’t remember both presence controls affect it. Diodes always.
 
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Bram576 said:
both channels are great. Saying that some very iconic guitarists have shitty taste and like sterile amps… what? lol come on man
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I don't think it's really an accusation of "shitty taste" as much as "different taste" - not everyone is going to worship at the altar of the same guitarists and tones :dunno: I think CC is super overrated and they're just not my thing, music or tonewise.

I'm definitely in the camp that doesn't care for a lot of ultra modern sounding high gainers as well, sterile or anodyne is just the best way to describe the reasons people have for not digging that sound. I haven't played an UU, but I would definitely put the Revv Generator and a few others i've played into that camp.
 
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