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joshsage
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hmm, my experience has been with them being really quiet, great amp in my book!
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guitarman967
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Good review..very objective and fair.
I agree on some points but I found the JVM to have a more dynamic poweramp by far.. The Splawn just would never give up the goods for me. I'm starting to wonder if Scott even had mine biased for the right tubes as it showed up with the 77's instead of the 34's..This would explain alot. I should have really investigated this.
I gotta figure something was up with mine because I dont agree with just about everyting I hear about the quickrods..Mine was not tight and the midrange was kind of harsh.
Splawn had a fraction of the gain too which made it difficult to play at lower volumes.
The splawn had a better build quality though no doubt about it.
joshsage":8c4fe said:
Good review..very objective and fair.
I agree on some points but I found the JVM to have a more dynamic poweramp by far.. The Splawn just would never give up the goods for me. I'm starting to wonder if Scott even had mine biased for the right tubes as it showed up with the 77's instead of the 34's..This would explain alot. I should have really investigated this.
I gotta figure something was up with mine because I dont agree with just about everyting I hear about the quickrods..Mine was not tight and the midrange was kind of harsh.
Splawn had a fraction of the gain too which made it difficult to play at lower volumes.
The splawn had a better build quality though no doubt about it.
Capulin Overdrive
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well, the simple fact that it's allmost allways Splawn that gets brought up in these JVM vs whatever threads, says alot to me.
i could have gotten either of the amps at the time i got my Quickrod, but at the time, i just had more faith in Splawn getting me a better product.
Marshall has rested on it's laurels the last 20 years getting fat selling run of the mill amps. i was expecting the JVM to be a farmed out made in China POS.
looking like Marshall has finally stepped up to the plate, about friggin time i'd say! it's a good start at earning back some respect.
i'm happy with my Splawn and haven't heard anything from a JVM that makes me want one.
i could have gotten either of the amps at the time i got my Quickrod, but at the time, i just had more faith in Splawn getting me a better product.
Marshall has rested on it's laurels the last 20 years getting fat selling run of the mill amps. i was expecting the JVM to be a farmed out made in China POS.
looking like Marshall has finally stepped up to the plate, about friggin time i'd say! it's a good start at earning back some respect.
i'm happy with my Splawn and haven't heard anything from a JVM that makes me want one.
jabps
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Well i actually own both the JVM and the QR right now...I have the QR with the revised clean channel.
I think Josh had some very good remarks and agree on alot of points. The main thing though is that they're are both really fine amps though I'd give quality of construction to the Splawn hands down. IMO.
Quick over view from me: All IMO.
Clean-JVM...lots of variations here... though the clean on the revised Splawn is much, much better. Sorry but still neither is going to get you that renown fendery clean.
Low Gain-tossup. Both do a fine job of low gain tones. Obviously the Marshall has alot of variations but the Splawn can be simple and to the point. Though on the other end the Splawn is not a simple one sound pony...w/OD1 & OD2...you've got some nice variations as well.
Mid Gain-tossup. See above.
High Gain-JVM. Now let me clarify. The JVM has stoopid amounts of gain. Seriously, this is one machine where if I'm running the gain past noon on either of the OD channels in a full on live situation then I've got a problem. And folks I like alot of gain. My god if you need a boost pedal with this amp then let Tommy come hit me over the head with a ball-pin hammer.
Low Volume-JVM. The only thing that comes close/equal to bedroom tones is my JSX. Which btw/ is my main amp.
High Volume-tossup. So far I'm still learning the high volume nuances of the JVM but what I want to hear from an amp is that as the volume gets louder the amp opens up and breaths. So far so good. This is where the Splawn shines...these amps are made to be turned up loud, once at live volumes the sweet spot to the Splawn is great and that $1850.00 you spent suddenly becomes all worth it.
Playability-JVM. If your a player that likes an easy amp to play...then the JVM is it. It still retains alot of dynamics but it is a forgiving amp. The Quick Rod is going to make you work more...but the more you learn the amp, the more you work it the more that will come out. Alot of players like this, alot of players like a forgiving amp...I personally don't care either way.
Flexibility-JVM...only because it has midi. That being said it's an incredibly flexible amp...capable of alot of tones w/ alot of features. However so does the Splawn when you think about it. See the way I look at it is that the JVM was designed to be alot of things whereas the Splawn was designed to be a more straightforward amp...however that being said, the Splawn with its boost, and 3 gears, and OD1 & OD2 on each channel is very flexible itself on an amp the was designed for simplicity. Really if Scott was to make the 3 Gears footswitchable, add midi well then you've basically got a 2 channel Splawn JVM.
Construction/Quality-Splawn. Let's face it, his amps are very well built...the jury will be out for awhile on the JVM.
Tricks-on the Splawn if you run a processor with an input and output control in the loop...say a Replifex type processor. All you have to do to get great low volum bedroom tones is crank the amp and lower the input/output on the processor. By doing this, the QR now can compete with any bedroom amp. Granted alot of players don't have that ability but there you go anyway. And I'm sure there's some other bedroom tricks for this amp but that's been mine.
Overall-tossup...not keeping score here but it's a tossup IMO. Both shine in different and comparable areas in there on way.
Just my opinion.
I think Josh had some very good remarks and agree on alot of points. The main thing though is that they're are both really fine amps though I'd give quality of construction to the Splawn hands down. IMO.
Quick over view from me: All IMO.
Clean-JVM...lots of variations here... though the clean on the revised Splawn is much, much better. Sorry but still neither is going to get you that renown fendery clean.
Low Gain-tossup. Both do a fine job of low gain tones. Obviously the Marshall has alot of variations but the Splawn can be simple and to the point. Though on the other end the Splawn is not a simple one sound pony...w/OD1 & OD2...you've got some nice variations as well.
Mid Gain-tossup. See above.
High Gain-JVM. Now let me clarify. The JVM has stoopid amounts of gain. Seriously, this is one machine where if I'm running the gain past noon on either of the OD channels in a full on live situation then I've got a problem. And folks I like alot of gain. My god if you need a boost pedal with this amp then let Tommy come hit me over the head with a ball-pin hammer.
Low Volume-JVM. The only thing that comes close/equal to bedroom tones is my JSX. Which btw/ is my main amp.
High Volume-tossup. So far I'm still learning the high volume nuances of the JVM but what I want to hear from an amp is that as the volume gets louder the amp opens up and breaths. So far so good. This is where the Splawn shines...these amps are made to be turned up loud, once at live volumes the sweet spot to the Splawn is great and that $1850.00 you spent suddenly becomes all worth it.
Playability-JVM. If your a player that likes an easy amp to play...then the JVM is it. It still retains alot of dynamics but it is a forgiving amp. The Quick Rod is going to make you work more...but the more you learn the amp, the more you work it the more that will come out. Alot of players like this, alot of players like a forgiving amp...I personally don't care either way.
Flexibility-JVM...only because it has midi. That being said it's an incredibly flexible amp...capable of alot of tones w/ alot of features. However so does the Splawn when you think about it. See the way I look at it is that the JVM was designed to be alot of things whereas the Splawn was designed to be a more straightforward amp...however that being said, the Splawn with its boost, and 3 gears, and OD1 & OD2 on each channel is very flexible itself on an amp the was designed for simplicity. Really if Scott was to make the 3 Gears footswitchable, add midi well then you've basically got a 2 channel Splawn JVM.
Construction/Quality-Splawn. Let's face it, his amps are very well built...the jury will be out for awhile on the JVM.
Tricks-on the Splawn if you run a processor with an input and output control in the loop...say a Replifex type processor. All you have to do to get great low volum bedroom tones is crank the amp and lower the input/output on the processor. By doing this, the QR now can compete with any bedroom amp. Granted alot of players don't have that ability but there you go anyway. And I'm sure there's some other bedroom tricks for this amp but that's been mine.
Overall-tossup...not keeping score here but it's a tossup IMO. Both shine in different and comparable areas in there on way.
Just my opinion.
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joshsage
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Thanks for a nice contrasting review! Thanks for posting so I wasn't the only one!
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erpece
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Thanks Jabps and Josh for your extensive comparisons. I will drive to a small shop in Germany tomorrow morning to check the JVM out. There are only 50 JVM's in Europe and they have 2! 
I'll let you know how things turn out.
I'll let you know how things turn out.
Digital Jams
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IMO you can't compare the two, the JVM just has so many options to it that a comparison is just not the right thing to do. You have to compare the JVM to the ENGL SE, Herbert, and other option rich platforms.
Only thing worth comparing is the voicing and well that is up to the owner anyways.
Only thing worth comparing is the voicing and well that is up to the owner anyways.
killertone
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Also, about this build quality issue...I think there is a pre-conceived notion here...I think that everyone is saying the Spalwn is built better only for the fact that he is a relatively small company and since the Marshall is made in a factory then it can't be well built. It simply isn't true. I have opened up and worked on the most popular amps out there (Marshall, Mesa, Peavey, Vox, Framus etc.) and the Marshall is made extremely well, the PCB's are stiff and excellent quality and the tranny's (made by Dagnall by the way) are well-mounted. The wiring is clean and neat and for such a feature rich amp it looks great on the inside. For the record, this is isn't even about the Splawn, I have no experience with the new models (I had a few modded Marshalls from him in the past) he builds. However, I do have experience with the JVM and think that it should not be dismissed as far as build quality.
+1. Once again, I'm not sure why these amps are being compared in this manner. I understand a tonal comparison but all the other stuff is kinds moot since the Splawn wasn't built to be near as feature laden as the JVM.Digital Jams":ff09d said:
Also, about this build quality issue...I think there is a pre-conceived notion here...I think that everyone is saying the Spalwn is built better only for the fact that he is a relatively small company and since the Marshall is made in a factory then it can't be well built. It simply isn't true. I have opened up and worked on the most popular amps out there (Marshall, Mesa, Peavey, Vox, Framus etc.) and the Marshall is made extremely well, the PCB's are stiff and excellent quality and the tranny's (made by Dagnall by the way) are well-mounted. The wiring is clean and neat and for such a feature rich amp it looks great on the inside. For the record, this is isn't even about the Splawn, I have no experience with the new models (I had a few modded Marshalls from him in the past) he builds. However, I do have experience with the JVM and think that it should not be dismissed as far as build quality.
evhfan
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carl, tell everyone the real story about why you don't like scott...you know the one that i mean....
carlygtr56":f7002 said:The JVM has 4 channels, 12 modes. The Splawn doesn't.
Plenty of JVM clips around by a variety of players and IMO, they all sound excellent.
The Splawn clips on the other hand sound like metallic mids, non Marshall, one-sound headbanging metal shit.
Guys have told me my clips were what they heard in their head as awesome Strat/Marshall tone.
I spent NO time making those clips, yet I'm still getting questions on them.
Where's the Strat thru a Splawn clips? Why, there are none. How about that?
Just the same old Splawn clips with some punkass Jackson lump of shit guitar metal trash hogshit.
IMO, there is no comparison. If you're a tone deaf, Jackson-owning metal TWAT, get the Splawn.
If you enjoy fucking tone out the balls with every variation known to man at your fingertips, get the JVM. It's IN THERE, if you take the time to dial it in.
We played a 5k PRS Modern Eagle thru the JVM and VM today.... at fucking volume, and it slammed balls. My buddy, who owns every amp under the sun, walked out impressed, as was I, cause I was tweaking these amps while he played.
No contest.
Marshall-
Splawn........
carl, tell everyone the real story about why you don't like scott...you know the one that i mean....
BOZZY
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Do you mean that i have been playing 25+ years-through various Marshalls and other amps and now ive fucked it all up by getting a Splawn!!! 
Its funny how not one person has told me how bad my tone is from my 4-5 gigs a month!!
must be just lucky i guess!
OH DEAR,HOW SAD!!carlygtr56":3a18e said:The JVM has 4 channels, 12 modes. The Splawn doesn't.
Plenty of JVM clips around by a variety of players and IMO, they all sound excellent.
The Splawn clips on the other hand sound like metallic mids, non Marshall, one-sound headbanging metal shit.
Guys have told me my clips were what they heard in their head as awesome Strat/Marshall tone.
I spent NO time making those clips, yet I'm still getting questions on them.
Where's the Strat thru a Splawn clips? Why, there are none. How about that?
Just the same old Splawn clips with some punkass Jackson lump of shit guitar metal trash hogshit.
IMO, there is no comparison. If you're a tone deaf, Jackson-owning metal TWAT, get the Splawn.
If you enjoy fucking tone out the balls with every variation known to man at your fingertips, get the JVM. It's IN THERE, if you take the time to dial it in.
We played a 5k PRS Modern Eagle thru the JVM and VM today.... at fucking volume, and it slammed balls. My buddy, who owns every amp under the sun, walked out impressed, as was I, cause I was tweaking these amps while he played.
No contest.
Marshall-
Splawn........
Do you mean that i have been playing 25+ years-through various Marshalls and other amps and now ive fucked it all up by getting a Splawn!!! Its funny how not one person has told me how bad my tone is from my 4-5 gigs a month!!
must be just lucky i guess!
real reason
