Beware of JC986

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I recently put a MINT Uberschall up for trade in which JC986 responded with his offer of a MINT Lil Fokker. After many days and much deliberation, I agreed and we cross-shipped. He received my amp in perfect condition. I received his amp in seemingly mint condition, but after playing it for about 45 minutes, the clean channel died. I contacted him within 3 hours of opening the amp to inform him that there was a problem, posted a thread in the Diezel forum for help, and contacted Peter Diezel. He responded and encouraged me to work with Peter, claiming that the amp was perfect when he shipped it. I assumed at first that he was truthful about that.

However, after several email conversations with Peter Diezel who helped me troubleshoot the issue, it turned out to be a bad preamp tube socket. During all of our conversations, I kept my trade partner informed every step of the way. After discovering the root of the problem, I contacted the member and asked him to help out with the repairs, but he immediately refused and apparently already had a defense prepared. I became suspicious when he mentioned that he made a video to show the amp worked. If he didn't have any doubt of whether the amp worked or not, then why bother?

The fact is that it takes about 40-45 minutes for the amp to heat up enough to cause the clean channel to fail, so a little video does nothing to support his defense.

There were some red flags that alerted me to his deception:

1. The top left back panel bolt was not secured flush to the panel. The two bottom bolts were jammed so tight to the nuts on the other side of the mounting blocks that Peter instructed me to cut the bolt heads off to remove it.

2. I discovered that the stock preamp tube in that particular socket had been replaced with a different kind of tube.

3. After being in contact with him through the troubleshooting process, his first reaction to my asking for his support was to refer to his video allegedly showing the amp working and saying that he has no responsibility in sending me a defective amp.

4. He insisted many times on filing a FedEx claim even though the package arrived in perfect condition without so much as even a scratch on the box. Hey, I despise FedEx and UPS as much as the next guy, but I'll take no part in trying to make a false shipping claim with them when there was clearly no reason for it.

5. He tried to say that the previous owner must have replaced the preamp tube and that he never noticed, yet later on, he claimed that he inspected the amp carefully and replaced the back panel himself.

Moreover, it makes no sense whatsoever that it would be a shipping issue when only THAT particular tube socket was affected which coincidentally was the only socket replaced with a non-stock preamp tube.

My deduction was that he knowingly offloaded a defective amp and set himself up for a defense with this pathetic little video and shipping bullshit. There's no way a problem like this would suddenly happen during shipping and not affect any other part of the amp. I figured him out:

1. He replaced the preamp tube.
2. He hastily replaced the back panel, thus jamming the two bottom bolts.
3. He took a video to support his claim that the amp was "perfect."
4. He sent the amp off expecting me to acquiesce to his little con, but did not anticipate me being smart enough to catch on.

Rather than ask him for money for repairs after the transaction, I told him to exchange amps back and that I would buy him a new headshell and get the socket installed or send him the parts. He refused all of it. Instead, he made his offer to pay repair costs contingent on a bogus FedEx claim.

I have been in communication with Peter Diezel the entire time, detailing our conversations with pictures we go along. Peter Diezel's support has converted me to a lifetime Diezezl user by the way.

This guy keeps fucking me around and won't be honest or take responsibility for sending me the defective amp. The amp I sent him was perfect in every way, and if the situation would have been reversed, he would have expected some kind of support or trade-back from me. However, he's not an honorable trader.

This slimy bastard traded me a defective amp and tried to play it off as if he didn't know anything about it, and now he won't give my amp back or do anything to fix the amp.

I later found out that the previous owner posted a thread in the Diezel forum about some kind of problem with the preamp tubes, but JC986 did not disclose that to me, only saying that the amp was like new. Moreover, the original owner exbest182, posted that he thought about replacing the preamp tubes but decided not to and sold the amp. When I asked JC986 about it, he said that exbest182 must have swapped that preamp tube, so he clearly lied about it.
 
The amp I sent was in perfect shape exactly as I had described. Any issues that were present with the amp on it's arrival had to have occurred during shipping (hence my offer to file a claim with FedEx) or happened after ubermetaldood began using the amp at some length. I would imagine the issues occurred during the shipping process, so I'm not sure why ubermetaldood isn't interested in getting a quote so he can be reimbursed for the repairs he claims are needed.

In addition, he has made multiple threats of physical harm to me, and has threatened to meet me face to face to exact some sort of revenge.

Anyone interested in the actual exchange of our PM's is welcome to send me a message and I can share the truth. I've offered to make things right, and have been rejected at every turn. No I will not trade you back for an amp where you have defaced the screws on the back panel.

I have 100% positive feedback on Ebay, reverb.com, sevenstring.org, and my first deal on this site was positive.
 
jc986":1ffbzihl said:
The amp I sent was in perfect shape exactly as I had described. Any issues that were present with the amp on it's arrival had to have occurred during shipping (hence my offer to file a claim with FedEx) or happened after ubermetaldood began using the amp at some length. I would imagine the issues occurred during the shipping process, so I'm not sure why ubermetaldood isn't interested in getting a quote so he can be reimbursed for the repairs he claims are needed.

In addition, he has made multiple threats of physical harm to me, and has threatened to meet me face to face to exact some sort of revenge.

Anyone interested in the actual exchange of our PM's is welcome to send me a message and I can share the truth. I've offered to make things right, and have been rejected at every turn. No I will not trade you back for an amp where you have defaced the screws on the back panel.

I have 100% positive feedback on Ebay, reverb.com, sevenstring.org, and my first deal on this site was positive.

The bottom line is that I sent him a perfect amp and his amp was defective. I contacted him within 3 hours of unboxing and testing it out to let him know there was a problem.

I offered to get an estimate or for him to get an estimate from some forum gurus and we could go on that, but he was bluffing because when he came back and said that the forum people say a socket replacement would cost $120 and agreed to go with that, he then obfuscated and tacked on a condition that I file a FedEx claim.

As for threats, well I didn't threaten him at all. In fact, I made it abundantly clear that he got away with it and that he could rest without concern in his little suburban lifestyle.

I too have perfect feedback in over 200 Ebay transactions, several forums, and Reverb.com, so comparing past deals is a moot point. Moreover, I simultaneously bought an amp from Memberzonly, received it, and had no complaints whatsoever. In fact, I have never complained to any trader on this forum that their stuff was defective in any deal. This is a first, and I did not come by it more than 3 hours after unboxing it. The problem was apparent after 45 minutes. I spent another 2 hours after that confirming that there was indeed a problem. I took no invasive action on the amp until he responded saying that I should work with Peter, and everything I did was as Peter Diezel directed.

JC986 is a liar and the facts in writing are clear. His recall of the facts are fuzzy and selective. I have nothing to hide and if he wants to dispute that, I have no problem whatsoever posting every conversation I had with him or Peter.
 
Examples of ubermetaldood's "non-threatening eloquence":

"I know that you were aware of the problem and you swindled me on this deal. Nobody rips me off. You might think you got away with this, but you better be one hard motherfucker if you think you're going to fuck me. Be careful what path you choose to follow because you seem blissfully unaware of who you are dealing with. Do you think you're dealing with some suburban fat-ass who sits behind a computer or something? You don't have the skill set to deal with me. I'm telling your right now, if you choose to fuck me over, this is an issue in which I will deal with you in person and our eyes will meet. Be very careful and think this through because I do not fuck around. This is not bravado or Internet talk so wake up and realize the gravity of this situation."

Another example:

"No more bullshit Jonathan Cline. This is a private matter right now, so no more fucking around. You know damned well the amp wasn't in perfect order. Cut the shit and be fucking honest. Just the truth and that's it. This can be easy to work out and you are making it much harder than it needs to be. No one will know about it if you just deal with me honestly. Face it, you chose the wrong guy to offload this problem to. You are better off resolving this with me now because if you don't, you will soon curse the very day you received the Uberschall. There is no way in hell that you will walk away from this unscathed. I promise you that I will make you truly regret the Uberschall."

Another example:

"You have grown smug and now you are fucking around with me again boy. I told you that I won't put up with it. You do not need a quote because I don't want your money. I will restore you with your amp in its original condition or repaired to MINT condition, and you will send my Uberschall back. Say nothing more except to provide me with the tracking number. I am a man of my word and I will ensure that I restore you with your amp perfectly functional and cosmetically MINT. I will hear nothing else unless you want to present your case when I meet you face-to-face. Do not mention FedEx again. It's not an option and I want no part if you want to take advantage of them."

And the last example, where he even includes a link to Google Streets of my house:

"Alright you little fucker. You've decided to gamble and test my resolve. Good luck with that because I'm a man of my word and we will surely meet. You have made a terrible error in judgement.

You cannot make your offer contingent on your bogus FedEx claim. If you wan to be a man about it and take care of repairs, then do so without trying to pin me to the FedEx deal. Otherwise, sit back in your smug little suburban house, go on about your work days, shopping at the supermarket, etc... and feel real secure doing that because I don't make threats to people. Yeah, you're going to get away with this and I won't do anything about it. You've won bastard. Congratulations Jonathan Cline, you just got away with ripping me off and now you have nothing whatsoever to worry about! Yay for you."
 
jc986":2dhjt160 said:
Examples of ubermetaldood's "non-threatening eloquence":

"I know that you were aware of the problem and you swindled me on this deal. Nobody rips me off. You might think you got away with this, but you better be one hard motherfucker if you think you're going to fuck me. Be careful what path you choose to follow because you seem blissfully unaware of who you are dealing with. Do you think you're dealing with some suburban fat-ass who sits behind a computer or something? You don't have the skill set to deal with me. I'm telling your right now, if you choose to fuck me over, this is an issue in which I will deal with you in person and our eyes will meet. Be very careful and think this through because I do not fuck around. This is not bravado or Internet talk so wake up and realize the gravity of this situation."

Another example:

"No more bullshit Jonathan Cline. This is a private matter right now, so no more fucking around. You know damned well the amp wasn't in perfect order. Cut the shit and be fucking honest. Just the truth and that's it. This can be easy to work out and you are making it much harder than it needs to be. No one will know about it if you just deal with me honestly. Face it, you chose the wrong guy to offload this problem to. You are better off resolving this with me now because if you don't, you will soon curse the very day you received the Uberschall. There is no way in hell that you will walk away from this unscathed. I promise you that I will make you truly regret the Uberschall."

Another example:

"You have grown smug and now you are fucking around with me again boy. I told you that I won't put up with it. You do not need a quote because I don't want your money. I will restore you with your amp in its original condition or repaired to MINT condition, and you will send my Uberschall back. Say nothing more except to provide me with the tracking number. I am a man of my word and I will ensure that I restore you with your amp perfectly functional and cosmetically MINT. I will hear nothing else unless you want to present your case when I meet you face-to-face. Do not mention FedEx again. It's not an option and I want no part if you want to take advantage of them."

And the last example, where he even includes a link to Google Streets of my house:

"Alright you little fucker. You've decided to gamble and test my resolve. Good luck with that because I'm a man of my word and we will surely meet. You have made a terrible error in judgement.

You cannot make your offer contingent on your bogus FedEx claim. If you wan to be a man about it and take care of repairs, then do so without trying to pin me to the FedEx deal. Otherwise, sit back in your smug little suburban house, go on about your work days, shopping at the supermarket, etc... and feel real secure doing that because I don't make threats to people. Yeah, you're going to get away with this and I won't do anything about it. You've won bastard. Congratulations Jonathan Cline, you just got away with ripping me off and now you have nothing whatsoever to worry about! Yay for you."

Don't be selective and try to paint a nice picture for yourself. Go ahead and post ALL of our correspondence you fucking little con.
 
I'd be happy to...was just providing some of your "non-threatening" comments.
 
jc986":qvlw0n6c said:
I'd be happy to...was just providing some of your "non-threatening" comments.

Go ahead then, post EVERYTHING so everyone can see that you were clearly lying. I have nothing to hide so I welcome very much exposing the entire conversation. In fact, I will add to such a post all of my conversations with Peter Diezel so everyone can see what's really going on.

In fact, I'll save you the trouble. Here is everything from the point where we received each others amps...
 
There you have it folks. Read for yourselves and decide who you'd rather do business with.
 
jc986":2yi54g2o said:
There you have it folks. Read for yourselves and decide who you'd rather do business with.

Uh, you need to get your priorities straight boy. It's not a matter of deciding who to do business with. This is a matter of resolving a trade issue which you caused by trying to offload a defective unit.
 
That's the part you just haven't comprehended through everything. It was fine when I sent it out. Something happened between then and when it started acting up for you. I presume something bumped loose in transit. That is where FedEx comes in. If you want money for repairs than you should at least come up with a quote for the repairs first. I'm not being unreasonable here.
 
AS IF I HAVEN'T MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, THERE IS NO BASIS FOR A FEDEX CLAIM. FEDEX DID NOT CAUSE ANY DAMAGE. EVERY PACKAGE IS GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF JOSTLING OF THE CONTENTS IN TRANSIT, AND THAT WOULD NOT CAUSE SUCH A SPECIFIC PROBLEM.

MOREOVER, YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT FRAGILE STICKERS ON THE BOX THE SAME WAY I DID WITH THE UBERSCHALL IF YOU WERE SO CONCERNED ABOUT SHIPPING. IN FACT, YOU NEGLECTED TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU NOT ONLY BOXED THE FOKKER INSIDE THE ORIGINAL BOX, YOU ALSO PUT THAT INTO A LARGER BOX AND PACKED IT. THEREFORE, IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN DELIVERED ANY MORE SAFELY.

I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN A BOGUS SHIPPING CLAIM JUST SO YOU CAN COVER YOUR OWN EXPENSE OF TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR SENDING ME A DEFECTIVE AMP.

HERE IS THE BASIC FACT YOUR LITTLE BRAIN CAN'T COMPREHEND:

I SENT YOU A PERFECT AMP WHICH WORKED AND MADE YOU SO HAPPY THAT YOU REFUSE TO RETURN IT TO ME, AND YOU SENT ME AN AMP THAT NEEDS THE ENTIRE CIRCUIT BOARD REPLACED (JUST HEARD BACK FROM PETER MINUTES AGO).

YOU CLAIM THE AMP WAS "FINE" WHEN YOU SENT IT, BUT THAT'S CONTRARY TO THE EVIDENCE. IN FACT, THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTS THAT YOU WERE DECEPTIVE, EVEN AT ONE POINT TRYING TO SAY IT WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHO REPLACED THE PREAMP TUBE WHEN HE POSTED IN WRITING THAT HE DIDN'T...

exbest182
Post subject: FS/FT: Diezel Lil' Fokker
PostPosted: Sun, Mar 22, 2015 8:23pm

"For sale is my like new Diezel Lil' Fokker - Purchased new from Make'n Music in February. I bought it before playing it and while I like it, I don't love it.

I'm considering going through the motions of preamp tube swaps, or having it modified to my liking, but - I figured there's people out there the might like it as is, and it'll save me return shipping and restocking fee."


OBVIOUSLY YOU LIED ABOUT THAT. YOUR STORY ABOUT ONLY SPENDING 5-6 HOURS WITH THE AMP HAD CHANGED A FEW TIMES SINCE THE BEGINNING OF OUR INITIAL TRADE CONVERSATION. CLEARLY, IN THE TRANSCRIPTS, YOU SHOW UNCERTAINTY AND SAT BACK AS AN OBSERVER OF THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN PETER AND I, BUT THEN YOU RAPIDLY CHANGED YOUR STORY AND SAID THAT YOU PLAYED IT LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THAT THE CLEAN CHANNEL WAS WORKING, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

THOSE ARE CLEARLY NOT THE ONLY THINGS YOU SAID THAT DON'T ADD UP, AND YOUR SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR IN HANDLING THE SITUATION ONCE THE PROBLEM WAS IDENTIFIED INSTANTLY CHANGED TO DEFENSIVE AND OFF-PUTTING THE RESPONSIBILITY.

THIS WAS NOTHING OF MY DOING AND YOU REFUSED TO SUPPORT IT AS EVIDENCED IN WRITING. YOUR RECOLLECTION OF FACTS IS FUZZY AND SELECTIVE. BOTTOM LINE, MY AMP WAS PERFECT AND YOURS WAS DEFECTIVE. BE A FUCKING MAN, STOP YOUR SILLY LITTLE CON, AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR AMP. STOP TRYING TO PASS YOUR EXPENSES OFF ON FEDEX AND STOP OBFUSCATING THE FACTS.
 
I just got this from the original owner. This is the last message JC986 sent him about the Fokker:

"Hey - It sounds great, but it just doesn't get quite heavy enough for me. Initially I thought the gain was way too "mushy" and undefined, so I was going to try out some different preamp tubes that I had lying around. I discovered that the V5 tube was not seated in the socket at all. No damage or anything, but the amp was basically running on just 4 of the 12ax7's. I reseated that tube, and there was a HUGE difference. The amp has a lot more usable gain and it is quite a bit tighter than it was initially. I play mostly modern metal, and with a boost the Diezel does get close, but I think I would prefer something like an Uberschall. "

You stated in writing earlier that you you did not put any preamp tubes and that it must have been the original owner, but obviously you lied on both accounts because the original owner posted on the forum that he was left it stock for the buyer, and it's clear that you already had trouble with the preamp tube in question. None of the other tubes were loose. So much for your FedEx scam.

Dude, I paid cash for that Uberschall and took great care to ensure that it arrived in perfect working order for you. You sent me a defective Fokker and now I have to replace the entire board.

Give up the charade and be a man of honor. Either send back my Uberschall or pay the repair bill. You've already been exposed so give up the con already.
 
I did not ever have any issues other than reseating a tube, which I already told you that I did open the back panel and make sure all the tubes were seated properly. I never swapped any tubes out at all. As I mentioned to exbest, once that tube was reseated everything worked fine for me without any trouble whatsoever. I did NOT replace any tubes in the amp. The tubes you have in there are the same tubes that I received from the original owner.

Do you even have a repair bill? I've asked for it multiple times now.
 
jc986":v7u0gw8t said:
I did not ever have any issues other than reseating a tube, which I already told you that I did open the back panel and make sure all the tubes were seated properly. I never swapped any tubes out at all. As I mentioned to exbest, once that tube was reseated everything worked fine for me without any trouble whatsoever. I did NOT replace any tubes in the amp. The tubes you have in there are the same tubes that I received from the original owner.

Do you even have a repair bill? I've asked for it multiple times now.

Well as I told you many times, it was Sunday and I cannot get you an estimate until they send me one. I can tell you that Peter is sending a new circuit board, sockets, etc... and the repair center he put me in touch with roughly estimates 3-4 hours of labor at $60/hr. It's a big amp head so shipping is a rather significant expense to tack on to it. You should have listened to me when I told you to trade back amps. At least the Fokker will be like new when it's all said and done, but you could have handled this deal much better.
 
...and this is why I'll never buy or sell to anyone on a forum.
I'll either get someone's garbage or some little internet dork who thinks he's starring in Taken 4 will try to threaten me when if he decides to feel taken advantage of.

Remember girls, integrity is something you only have once. Apparently it's also something neither of you have been in possession of for quite some time.
 
Go ahead and post the PM argument but dont post a google map of the guys house for christ sake.
What in the fuck is that going to do? :thumbsdown:
 
Mailman1971":3vvszzta said:
Go ahead and post the PM argument but dont post a google map of the guys house for christ sake.
What in the fuck is that going to do? :thumbsdown:[/quote

I didn't post that, he did.

rocknrolla":3vvszzta said:
...and this is why I'll never buy or sell to anyone on a forum.
I'll either get someone's garbage or some little internet dork who thinks he's starring in Taken 4 will try to threaten me when if he decides to feel taken advantage of.

Remember girls, integrity is something you only have once. Apparently it's also something neither of you have been in possession of for quite some time.

You don't know me. Bigmouth fucking prick. You're no help at all. You wouldn't know integrity if it's balls smashed your Adam's apple all night.
 
ubermetaldood":2bwi46a1 said:
Mailman1971":2bwi46a1 said:
Go ahead and post the PM argument but dont post a google map of the guys house for christ sake.
What in the fuck is that going to do? :thumbsdown:[/quote

I didn't post that, he did.

rocknrolla":2bwi46a1 said:
...and this is why I'll never buy or sell to anyone on a forum.
I'll either get someone's garbage or some little internet dork who thinks he's starring in Taken 4 will try to threaten me when if he decides to feel taken advantage of.

Remember girls, integrity is something you only have once. Apparently it's also something neither of you have been in possession of for quite some time.

You don't know me. Bigmouth fucking prick. You're no help at all. You wouldn't know integrity if it's balls smashed your Adam's apple all night.

I really enjoyed you in Rob Roy.
 
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