Billy Blades Update

[mooncobra]

as the thread continues, you can watch as the BLADEZ mind gets more strange and maniacal!

SET THE TONE FREE!!!!!!
FREE FROM GOOP!
FREE FROM STOLEN AMPS
FREE FROM DRUGGIES
FREE FROM OPPORTUNISTS

SET IT FREE! TELL IT TO THE WORLD! HEY ,,, THIS IS FUN!!!!

UH OH,,,,,
DF HAD TO LEAVE THE PORSCHE DEALER
RS HAD TO STOP LOOKIN AT HIS REFLECTION
MC GOT ANOTHER BASE HIT
SCMBK STUCK WITH A BUNCH OF CELESTIONS & CD LABELS

DAMMIT MY AMP SOUNDS GREAT! I AM HERE AT MY SHOP EVERY DAY ! IF ANYONE WANT TO COME BY N HEAR FOR YOURSELF!
IF YOU ARE LOCAL I CAN HAVE YOUR AMP MODDED WITHIN A FEW DAYS! AND YOU CAN PICK IT UP HERE IN PERSON!!!FLAMINGDRAGONTATTOOS.COMbillyblades
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[mooncobra]

here billy goes again from the same thread

aint that complicated! people used this forum to jumpstart their biz. i left here cause of the greedyness,

everyone bitchin is tied to rockstah, friedman or cameeron,,,,, when i was last hear the mod 5 wasnt available except in old posts which he deleted.

i came here because i was happy that i got the cameron mod solved! i had friends that lost money to these guys.
they tried to swindle me so yeah,,, im cocky ,,,or confident ,,,, whatever way you look at it!

theres been a monopoly on this mod n people are mad that its out there !

i got carried away cause keyboard commandos talk in the safety of there home but what i say here i can say to their face ,,,, i dont cower n hide,,,, i have a backbone!

im not happy this thread went this way but it did!

i had prank calls at my business,,,, i thought that was teenage girl shit!
im an artist,,, im not very pc at all.
it is what it is!
i dont care if i do anyones mod here at all.... im just rockin the boat! pay that crazy money? it aint my money.... im doing the mod for people allready that dont understand why people are jumpin on me!
its a bitch move!
others here see whats up too.
im not even stressed!

im not happy tho how friedman calls it a brown eye mod! hew should pay homage to jose arredondo,,,,, does anyone say hey dude,,,, thats kinda fucked up? you are good enough to make money on the mans development n then go discrace his legacy by calling it an asshole mod!

thats why im here! for the little guy! for jose! for the workin dad who doesnt want to pay for some regular shit.
its not rocket science people! i got it conquered in 3 days! all the info is on the net! im not goin to say,,, here it is in paint by numbers style metro guys are used to!
i can trace a circuit and read a schematic! i paid thousands of dollars chasin tone!

if you dont like me get the fuck outta this thread,,,, if you want the unobtainable i can help you!
make up yopur minds n see the reasons n read the posts n stop acting like a bunch of monkeys fightin over a banana!

HINT!
THIS MOD IS NOT DAVE FRIEDMANS OR MARK CAMERONS,,,, ITS NOT THE ATOMICA MOD OR BROWNEYE.
ASSHOLE MOD EITHER!

ITS JOSE ARREDONDOS CREATION,,,, JUST WITH A TWEAK OR 4 : )

FIGHT THE POWER!
FUCK MIESERS!

FDTBILLYBLADES@GMAIL.COM IF YOU WANT YOUR AMP BADASS

CALL THE OTHERS IF YOU LIKE IT DOGGYSTYLE!FLAMINGDRAGONTATTOOS.COMbillyblades
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[mooncobra]

here is how George of metro responds to the BLADEZ!

Ya know, this thread was locked, but I suspect the confrontation is far from over. Since I was dragged away from mixing hydraulic cement to seal up the last few cracks in the shop foundation, I'll going to weigh in on many of the points at hand. Take it what it's worth, and I'll try to separate black and white facts from my own personal opinion.


Things which are not up for debate:

• Fender used RCA and Western Electric circuit examples
  Marshall "stole" Fenders Bassman circuit
  people have modded amps basically since the first amps were made
  there's virtually nothing new under the sun for these circuits, it's all been done one way or another
  free enterprise dictates that anyone can sell any product or service for whatever the market will allow
  those companies pimping their wares here have paid to do so via banner ads
  Scumback speakers were previously manufactured by Weber and now by Jim at his own facility
  BB: you are in violation of the forum rules for attacking members and advertisers
  Rockstah did conduct unethical business and is no longer here because of it
  Mark Cameron is no longer associated with Cameron amps take your issues up with him personally
  if Dave Friedman has ripped you off, I want to know about it. I have a vested interest in his company and products

BB, you made some very big claims with your first post on this thread. So matter of fact, and also derogatory to others who have done similar, that it begs for you to "put up or shut up". The level of tech ability and combined amp business experience on this forum is extremely high. You can't possible expect us to write off our life's work as inferior just because you come here and slam it and/or call us all rip off artists. Really, think about that.

I'm very happy that you like your Metroamps. I put all I had into those products. Ultimately, the business model didn't work, there just wasn't enough margin on the kits. The 100 watt kits, in a working business model, needed to retail at $1,300-1,400 USD. That's the reality, and I'm still paying off old debts I acquired while not wanting to accept that fact.

It's ironic and hypocritical of you, in my opinion, to cry foul that these established amp guys to use parts of circuits created decades ago by Jose and others, then claim that you yourself have done exactly that. Why is it OK for you and not them? Because you haven't charged anyone for the service yet? Because you feel your intentions are more genuine than theirs?

Listen, I've done work for most of the people and companies you list, I'm privy to an astonishing amount of proprietary info. I have personal and professional relationships with scores of boutique amp builders. Your cynical attitude towards these folks just doesn't reflect the reality of this industry. Don't let a few bad seeds reflect negatively on us guys who do care, go out of our way to ethical business and strive to honor the legacy of those pioneering amp modders who we emulate.

You definitely need to address incidents with those who have done you wrong, or attempted to, this just is wrong arena to do so.

This community is very savvy, we can smell bullshit a mile away. Rather than arguing against this group, you might find that you share much of our street smart instincts regarding amps. We might just be your best allies if you go in public and advocate against bad techs and business in the amp world.

Your welcome to your personal opinions here, the stronger the better. But you must post them in respectful ways, our mods will police the threads and identify and act upon abuse from any and all members.

Good luck to you.

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[mooncobra]

so blades tells scumback to put up or shut up by showing pics of his production facilities. scumback posted pics in the thread and blades is not heard from again after accusing scumback of taking celestions and putting a sticker on them.

 

[TrueTone500]

Edited out by TrueTone500.

 

[Mailman1971]

Billy Blades for President

 

[Bob Savage]

I've read some of the Metro posts, but I don't place any stock into that... I've met some big name players who I would describe as some of the biggest assholes I've ever met! Did I stop buying their music? Nope! I don't think Billy means anything by it... It's just his way.

LOL! Words have no meaning. Language is a waste. A man doesn't really mean what he says, what he means is something else. <burp>

 

[FourT6and2]

I have talked with Billy via cell phone, and he seems like a very cool person. He never talked shit about anyone, which I thought was very commendable. I've read some of the Metro posts, but I don't place any stock into that... I've met some big name players who I would describe as some of the biggest assholes I've ever met! Did I stop buying their music? Nope! I don't think Billy means anything by it... It's just his way.

As a recording artist who creates original music, I need to get my hands on the best tools possible to expand my art. If I were to base my conception of great tone on what an eccentric builder said on an internet forum, I'd be a lesser musician for it. I have not played using that much gain in a long time, but hearing the Blades Firebolt (in both pre and post production) has motivated me to reconsider. I would at least like to experiment with some multi-tracking... To my ears, Billy has built a great sounding amplifier. If the Blades Firebolt is good enough for legendary music producer Michael Wagener, than it's good enough for me.

Last I checked, when your CD doesn't work you don't have to call up the asshole musician who played guitar on it.

I work in advertising. I create ad campaigns for a living. Sometimes we'll joke about using a celebrity endorsement (it's called borrowed interest). Because the masses are too stupid to realize that it's all a sham. "Oh, if it's good enough for Justin Timberlake, it must be awesome. I should like totally buy it!" There's a reason borrowed interest works. Because in general, people don't want to admit to themselves that those celebrities get paid to do it. Nothing is free. Nobody endorses a product, commercially, unless they're getting compensated. Especially if the product is crap. The problem is, products that have to rely on borrowed interest do so because they usually can't stand on their own merits...

 

[metalmaniac93]

Billy Blades for President

BILLY BILLY BILLY!!!

 

[TrueTone500]

I've read some of the Metro posts, but I don't place any stock into that... I've met some big name players who I would describe as some of the biggest assholes I've ever met! Did I stop buying their music? Nope! I don't think Billy means anything by it... It's just his way.

LOL! Words have no meaning. Language is a waste. A man doesn't really mean what he says, what he means is something else. <burp>

As a recording artist who creates original music, I need to get my hands on the best tools possible to expand my art. If I were to base my conception of great tone on what an eccentric builder said on an internet forum, I'd be a lesser musician for it. I have not played using that much gain in a long time, but hearing the Blades Firebolt (in both pre and post production) has motivated me to reconsider. I would at least like to experiment with some multi-tracking... To my ears, Billy has built a great sounding amplifier. If the Blades Firebolt is good enough for legendary music producer Michael Wagener, than it's good enough for me.

 

[TrueTone500]

Edited out by TrueTone500.

 

[FourT6and2]

I have talked with Billy via cell phone, and he seems like a very cool person. He never talked shit about anyone, which I thought was very commendable. I've read some of the Metro posts, but I don't place any stock into that... I've met some big name players who I would describe as some of the biggest assholes I've ever met! Did I stop buying their music? Nope! I don't think Billy means anything by it... It's just his way.

As a recording artist who creates original music, I need to get my hands on the best tools possible to expand my art. If I were to base my conception of great tone on what an eccentric builder said on an internet forum, I'd be a lesser musician for it. I have not played using that much gain in a long time, but hearing the Blades Firebolt (in both pre and post production) has motivated me to reconsider. I would at least like to experiment with some multi-tracking... To my ears, Billy has built a great sounding amplifier. If the Blades Firebolt is good enough for legendary music producer Michael Wagener, than it's good enough for me.

Last I checked, when your CD doesn't work you don't have to call up the asshole musician who played guitar on it.

...or the scumbag who clones another man's amp.

Exactly.

 

[TrueTone500]

Edited out by TrueTone500.

 

[FourT6and2]

I have talked with Billy via cell phone, and he seems like a very cool person. He never talked shit about anyone, which I thought was very commendable. I've read some of the Metro posts, but I don't place any stock into that... I've met some big name players who I would describe as some of the biggest assholes I've ever met! Did I stop buying their music? Nope! I don't think Billy means anything by it... It's just his way.

As a recording artist who creates original music, I need to get my hands on the best tools possible to expand my art. If I were to base my conception of great tone on what an eccentric builder said on an internet forum, I'd be a lesser musician for it. I have not played using that much gain in a long time, but hearing the Blades Firebolt (in both pre and post production) has motivated me to reconsider. I would at least like to experiment with some multi-tracking... To my ears, Billy has built a great sounding amplifier. If the Blades Firebolt is good enough for legendary music producer Michael Wagener, than it's good enough for me.

Last I checked, when your CD doesn't work you don't have to call up the asshole musician who played guitar on it.

...or the scumbag who clones another man's amp.

Exactly.

Did you post any pics of your "SLO100" home build?

In this thread? No.

Maybe you should ask Billy for pics of his. He joined the SLO Clone forum. Lost of great information that's openly shared there. But he was banned and his threads deleted after like 3 days.

 

[Bob Savage]

As a recording artist who creates original music, I need to get my hands on the best tools possible to expand my art. If I were to base my conception of great tone on what an eccentric builder said on an internet forum, I'd be a lesser musician for it. I have not played using that much gain in a long time, but hearing the Blades Firebolt (in both pre and post production) has motivated me to reconsider. I would at least like to experiment with some multi-tracking... To my ears, Billy has built a great sounding amplifier. If the Blades Firebolt is good enough for legendary music producer Michael Wagener, than it's good enough for me.

Yeah, already saw that. It's called rationalization.

There are SO MANY great amp choices out there nowadays that it's simply a matter of personal choice as to the type of character you support. It has no effect on what level of musician you are in fact, the premise that ANY piece of gear would affect your level of musicianship is laughable. If you can't do it with an old Plexi/JMP/Fender/Vox and a boost (assuming you need more overdrive/gain), then perhaps ones time might be better spend on underwater basket weaving.

This is all aside from the fact that you're trying to side step your statement that words really have no meaning.

 

[FourT6and2]

Well, that's what I like about Billy... He's doing his own thing!

No he isn't. By his own admission, he isn't.

 

[TrueTone500]

Edited out by TrueTone500.

 

[FourT6and2]

I have talked with Billy via cell phone, and he seems like a very cool person. He never talked shit about anyone, which I thought was very commendable. I've read some of the Metro posts, but I don't place any stock into that... I've met some big name players who I would describe as some of the biggest assholes I've ever met! Did I stop buying their music? Nope! I don't think Billy means anything by it... It's just his way.

As a recording artist who creates original music, I need to get my hands on the best tools possible to expand my art. If I were to base my conception of great tone on what an eccentric builder said on an internet forum, I'd be a lesser musician for it. I have not played using that much gain in a long time, but hearing the Blades Firebolt (in both pre and post production) has motivated me to reconsider. I would at least like to experiment with some multi-tracking... To my ears, Billy has built a great sounding amplifier. If the Blades Firebolt is good enough for legendary music producer Michael Wagener, than it's good enough for me.

Last I checked, when your CD doesn't work you don't have to call up the asshole musician who played guitar on it.

...or the scumbag who clones another man's amp.

Exactly.

Did you post any pics of your "SLO100" home build?

In this thread? No.

Maybe you should ask Billy for pics of his. He joined the SLO Clone forum. Lost of great information that's openly shared there. But he was banned and his threads deleted after like 3 days. I wonder why...

That must have been an old thread, because to my ears the Blades Firebolt stomps the shit out of a Soldano SLO100 - no question about it!

Cool.

If you want a photo of my build you can PM me. But since the SLO is a pice of crap you're probably not interested.

 

[Bob Savage]

That must have been an old thread, because to my ears the Blades Firebolt stomps the shit out of a Soldano SLO100 - no question about it!

And Rocky Road DESTROYS Chocolate Chip.

 

[FourT6and2]

That must have been an old thread, because to my ears the Blades Firebolt stomps the shit out of a Soldano SLO100 - no question about it!

And Rocky Road DESTROYS Chocolate Chip.

Dude. Tillamook choclate peanut butter is the best. Everybody knows that.