Did you know there was a 'TON' of COVID going around this summer???

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Dan Gleesak said:
I can’t believe that it was a coincidence that a coronavirus outbreak happened down the street from a coronavirus lab…. But I don’t think that necessarily means it was man made or intentional
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I think the Wuhan market was a distraction. It's kind of strange that US intelligence was warning everyone of death and destruction in November 2019, before China even knew.

 
Geo said:
You're the one that thinks the PCR test is accurate, even after explaining to you that is not.
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Not that I discredit madhatter, but one dude in the internet is not enough to change my mind on a topic.
 
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acceptance said:
I think the Wuhan market was a distraction. It's kind of strange that US intelligence was warning everyone of death and destruction in November 2019, before China even knew.

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The sickest I got during the entire time frame was oct '19. Laid me up for a week but covid wasn't official yet and I didn't lose my smell/taste. After that I got it 3x and lost all smell and taste for 11 months on the first go around. Didn't think I'd ever get those senses back.
 
VonBonfire said:
The sickest I got during the entire time frame was oct '19. Laid me up for a week but covid wasn't official yet and I didn't lose my smell/taste. After that I got it 3x and lost all smell and taste for 11 months on the first go around. Didn't think I'd ever get those senses back.
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Like December 19/Jan 20 I was still working at a Casino and a good 100 or so coworkers got sick as shit. Wasn’t the flu, wasnt pneumonia, just out for the count for a good week. My boss had to lay in bed with his CPAP machine. We just thought it was something going around.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Like December 19/Jan 20 I was still working at a Casino and a good 100 or so coworkers got sick as shit. Wasn’t the flu, wasnt pneumonia, just out for the count for a good week. My boss had to lay in bed with his CPAP machine. We just thought it was something going around.
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I don't really know what the deal was. My first "covid" case I felt a little run down for a day and lost my smell, that was it. The other 2x basically was nothing a double shot of wild turkey 101 couldn't knock out. Yeah, oct 19, def had some kinda lung deal going on, was coughing most of the week and felt like total crap and just laid up on the couch. IIRC I gigged a bit that month and had some pretty up close and personal discussions with drunk people at the club enjoying the show so I figured that is probably where it came from. Hope you have a good day Daniel, I'm fitting to bounce out to do some recording work today. Be well brother.
 
VonBonfire said:
I don't really know what the deal was. My first "covid" case I felt a little run down for a day and lost my smell, that was it. The other 2x basically was nothing a double shot of wild turkey 101 couldn't knock out. Yeah, oct 19, def had some kinda lung deal going on, was coughing most of the week and felt like total crap and just laid up on the couch. IIRC I gigged a bit that month and had some pretty up close and personal discussions with drunk people at the club enjoying the show so I figured that is probably where it came from. Hope you have a good day Daniel, I'm fitting to bounce out to do some recording work today. Be well brother.
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We just came from a town fair and soon we are going apple picking. We are New England as fuuuck.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
The lab I work at does these tests for COVID. They have 60% accuracy at best. Many false positives and negatives.
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The question is how many cycles are they running the PCR? The inventor of the PCR states more than 20-25 cycles there will be false results or false positives, he is very clear that PCR can be abused if not used correctly, I would imagine the man that invented the test would know something about his own invention, he also won the Nobel prize.


 
harddriver said:
The question is how many cycles are they running the PCR? The inventor of the PCR states more than 20-25 cycles there will be false results or false positives, he is very clear that PCR can be abused if not used correctly, I would imagine the man that invented the test would know something about his own invention, he also won the Nobel prize.


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Yeah, I think Dr. Mullis would know better than anyone about PCR tests. He's probably rolling in his grave over how it's being used in some testing methods today.

I don't remember off hand how many cycles are done and don't have access to the SOP's from home. I'd have to ask my coworker or look it up Monday. I do know it's whatever CDC and CLIA regulations dictate for that particular test method. For the COVID wastewater PCR method it's up in the air. From my understanding the method isn't fully established yet. In the pilot programs they're building it off of other similar methods and hoping for the best.
 
Geo said:
There is no real test for Coovid
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I have had covid at least twice.

First time it punched pretty fucken hard......day 6 scared the shit outta me, and if i didnt have a bunch of respiratory medicine at home, I would have been in hospital.......actually my Vetrinarian cousin saved my bacon because she mentioned that one of the drugs we both had in our possesion, was similar to the covid antiviral in action...and that drug saved me. The second time was like the typical influenza plus a headache.
 
67mike said:
I have had covid at least twice.

First time it punched pretty fucken hard......day 6 scared the shit outta me, and if i didnt have a bunch of respiratory medicine at home, I would have been in hospital.......actually my Vetrinarian cousin saved my bacon because she mentioned that one of the drugs we both had in our possesion, was similar to the covid antiviral in action...and that drug saved me. The second time was like the typical influenza plus a headache.
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That sucks, I had it in December of 19, I think. Was super sick for 2 days then just disappeared.

I am not saying people didn't get sick, but there is no real way to know if it was CV.
 
67mike said:
I have had covid at least twice.

First time it punched pretty fucken hard......day 6 scared the shit outta me, and if i didnt have a bunch of respiratory medicine at home, I would have been in hospital.......actually my Vetrinarian cousin saved my bacon because she mentioned that one of the drugs we both had in our possesion, was similar to the covid antiviral in action...and that drug saved me. The second time was like the typical influenza plus a headache.
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I took ivermectin the two time I got covid and I was good within 24 hours.
 
It's kind of strange that Dan didn't even know what a NAAT was some months ago and claimed he was getting results in twenty minutes from a machine that took many hours and even up to three or more days to process, but now he's an expert on it's accuracy/expert on experts of it's accuracy.

PCR molecular testing accuracy highly depends on time since symptoms first appear. Like MAAH and others stated it can be as little as 30%. Pretty much anything after 5 days should be taken as likely not accurate without numerous redundant verifications. Rapid PCR testing is even worse.
Did y'all know that the RT in RT-PCR doesn't stand for Rig-Talk? :unsure:
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
It's kind of strange that Dan didn't even know what a NAAT was some months ago and claimed he was getting results in twenty minutes from a machine that took many hours and even up to three or more days to process, but now he's an expert on it's accuracy/expert on experts of it's accuracy.

PCR molecular testing accuracy highly depends on time since symptoms first appear. Like MAAH and others stated it can be as little as 30%. Pretty much anything after 5 days should be taken as likely not accurate without numerous redundant verifications. Rapid PCR testing is even worse.
Did y'all know that the RT in RT-PCR doesn't stand for Rig-Talk? :unsure:
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Derp

Me: I have a ton of friends in the field who I believe

You: so you think you are an expert now?

Fuck sakes get over it lol
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Me: I have a ton of friends in the field who I believe
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I don't know what I believe less, you having a ton of friends or that there in a field.

What kind of field is it? A retarded one?

And is that field factcheck.org?
 
Geo said:
I don't know what I believe less, you having a ton of friends or that there in a field.

What kind of field is it? A retarded one?

And is that field factcheck.org?
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Derp
 
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