Effects

[moltenmetalburn]

I love my G major 2 and the ability to edit on my laptop is amazing.

Are you running it serial or parrallel with kill dry?

serial, I would have opted for parallel but i didn't agree with limiting the units functionality and I can hear no tone suck once the levels are correctly set.

I did away with the patches being set at -6db. i put them all back to zero and use my amps second master for solo boosts.

 

[gbsmusic]

I love my G major 2 and the ability to edit on my laptop is amazing.

Are you running it serial or parrallel with kill dry?

serial, I would have opted for parallel but i didn't agree with limiting the units functionality and I can hear no tone suck once the levels are correctly set.

I did away with the patches being set at -6db. i put them all back to zero and use my amps second master for solo boosts.

What limiting in parallel are you talking about? Thanks.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I love my G major 2 and the ability to edit on my laptop is amazing.

Are you running it serial or parrallel with kill dry?

serial, I would have opted for parallel but i didn't agree with limiting the units functionality and I can hear no tone suck once the levels are correctly set.

I did away with the patches being set at -6db. i put them all back to zero and use my amps second master for solo boosts.

What limiting in parallel are you talking about? Thanks.

From The Manual:

Kill Dry
Settings: On/Off
We always recommend using G-Major 2 in a
serial or loop setup as this will allow you to
benefit from all the unit’s effects and features.
If, however, you intend to use G-Major 2 in a
parallel setup or a parallel loop, its Kill Dry
function will come in handy.
With Kill Dry activated, no direct signal is
passed to the outputs of G-Major 2.
A few comments regarding the Kill Dry function
and a parallel setup:
First of all:
• In such a setup, we recommend using the
Parallel routing.
• When the Kill Dry parameter is set to “On”,
no clean signal is passed to the outputs, and
the “Mix” parameter changes to “Wet” in all
algorithms.
You should also be aware that the way the
signal is routed in a parallel loop is similar to
the signal path within a mixer. The signal is
split: One part runs unprocessed to the output
and never passes the actual effects processor.
The other part of the signal is processed within
G-Major 2 and summed with the unprocessed
signal.
Therefore, you will not get to enjoy the benefits
from all effects when running a parallel setup.
This goes especially for level-based effects
such as Tremolo and Panner, but the
Chorus/Flanger/ Phaser/Vibrato and Pitch
blocks will be affected as well.

 

[gbsmusic]

I love my G major 2 and the ability to edit on my laptop is amazing.

Are you running it serial or parrallel with kill dry?

serial, I would have opted for parallel but i didn't agree with limiting the units functionality and I can hear no tone suck once the levels are correctly set.

I did away with the patches being set at -6db. i put them all back to zero and use my amps second master for solo boosts.

What limiting in parallel are you talking about? Thanks.

From The Manual:

Kill Dry
Settings: On/Off
We always recommend using G-Major 2 in a
serial or loop setup as this will allow you to
benefit from all the unit’s effects and features.
If, however, you intend to use G-Major 2 in a
parallel setup or a parallel loop, its Kill Dry
function will come in handy.
With Kill Dry activated, no direct signal is
passed to the outputs of G-Major 2.
A few comments regarding the Kill Dry function
and a parallel setup:
First of all:
• In such a setup, we recommend using the
Parallel routing.
• When the Kill Dry parameter is set to “On”,
no clean signal is passed to the outputs, and
the “Mix” parameter changes to “Wet” in all
algorithms.
You should also be aware that the way the
signal is routed in a parallel loop is similar to
the signal path within a mixer. The signal is
split: One part runs unprocessed to the output
and never passes the actual effects processor.
The other part of the signal is processed within
G-Major 2 and summed with the unprocessed
signal.
Therefore, you will not get to enjoy the benefits
from all effects when running a parallel setup.
This goes especially for level-based effects
such as Tremolo and Panner, but the
Chorus/Flanger/ Phaser/Vibrato and Pitch
blocks will be affected as well.

Thanks for the info!!

 

[FourT6and2]

I'm looking into getting a G System for my VH4. Does this setup have a history of noise issues? I'd probably be running it in the switchable (send 2) series loop. Also, it can switch all the MIDI funcitons of the VH4 as well, correct? Including Send 2 on/off? Or is the loops send 2 on/off only switchable on the amp front plate? I've never used MIDI with this amp before.

Or, can the Nova System work with MIDI switching to control the amp's channels and such like a MIDI controller? TC Electronics' website says the G System can also be used as a MIDI switcher to control an amp, but doesn't say anything about the Nova System being able to do that. All I need is the ability to switch channels and turn the loop on/off in the same box as my effects... so the G System or Nova System look nice, as long as they can do this. I don't need to store patches or anything.

 

[Ventura]

Ive been using the TC GMajor (first edition) for over 6 years...zero noise...and so easy a caveman can use it. And pretty cheap too.

Caveman?? That hurts Pauly!!

I hate to say it but... Reinhold Bogner?

OH MY GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a TERRIBLE thing to say, but jaaaaayzeus - if ya put a funny hat on this cat ya, you f*ckin' nailed it!!!!!!!! LOL ROTFFLMAO... Poor bugger. I respect his amp making fo'shizzle - love the TJ, so please don't think I am going for the low blow here, but you really did nail this one

V.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csvb5zYmwi8

 

[glassjaw7]

I'm looking into getting a G System for my VH4. Does this setup have a history of noise issues? I'd probably be running it in the switchable (send 2) series loop. Also, it can switch all the MIDI funcitons of the VH4 as well, correct? Including Send 2 on/off? Or is the loops send 2 on/off only switchable on the amp front plate? I've never used MIDI with this amp before.

Or, can the Nova System work with MIDI switching to control the amp's channels and such like a MIDI controller? TC Electronics' website says the G System can also be used as a MIDI switcher to control an amp, but doesn't say anything about the Nova System being able to do that. All I need is the ability to switch channels and turn the loop on/off in the same box as my effects... so the G System or Nova System look nice, as long as they can do this. I don't need to store patches or anything.

No, the Nova System will not control any amp functions or change channels unless you buy another piece of gear, such as the RJM Amp Gizmo or Mini Amp Gizmo.
I couldn't find a Nova System video demonstrating this, but it works with the Amp Gizmo in the exact same way.

 

[FourT6and2]

I'm looking into getting a G System for my VH4. Does this setup have a history of noise issues? I'd probably be running it in the switchable (send 2) series loop. Also, it can switch all the MIDI funcitons of the VH4 as well, correct? Including Send 2 on/off? Or is the loops send 2 on/off only switchable on the amp front plate? I've never used MIDI with this amp before.

Or, can the Nova System work with MIDI switching to control the amp's channels and such like a MIDI controller? TC Electronics' website says the G System can also be used as a MIDI switcher to control an amp, but doesn't say anything about the Nova System being able to do that. All I need is the ability to switch channels and turn the loop on/off in the same box as my effects... so the G System or Nova System look nice, as long as they can do this. I don't need to store patches or anything.

No, the Nova System will not control any amp functions or change channels unless you buy another piece of gear, such as the RJM Amp Gizmo or Mini Amp Gizmo.
I couldn't find a Nova System video demonstrating this, but it works with the Amp Gizmo in the exact same way.

How would this work with a VH4? VH4 has no amp switch jacks, only MIDI...

 

[prsdiezel]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

My G Major 2 has very little coloration, almost negligible.

It did seem to have more of a negative effect until I got the levels sorted out. it defaults to a -6db patch volume, once those are set to zero again the unit is barely perceptible when put in/ out of the loop. granted my Diezels' loop sounds great in its own right.

 

[Jonny333]

Ive been using the TC GMajor (first edition) for over 6 years...zero noise...and so easy a caveman can use it. And pretty cheap too.

Caveman?? That hurts Pauly!!

I hate to say it but... Reinhold Bogner?

OH MY GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a TERRIBLE thing to say, but jaaaaayzeus - if ya put a funny hat on this cat ya, you f*ckin' nailed it!!!!!!!! LOL ROTFFLMAO... Poor bugger. I respect his amp making fo'shizzle - love the TJ, so please don't think I am going for the low blow here, but you really did nail this one

V.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csvb5zYmwi8

Haha, yeah don't get me wrong, I love the guy! Brilliant amps and seems to have a great sense of humour from the videos I've seen.

 

[eddiespaghetty]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

My experience was different:

I play an Einstein and use a Replifex and a G-Major in the serial loop. I compared both effect units to the pure sound by using a Lehle D-Loop (best quality loop) and found, that the Replifex colored the sound a bit, but the G-Major didn't - I think, I could adjust the the G-Major, so that I wasn't loosing sound quality of my Einstein (actually I expected it the other way). So I am just deciding to get a G-Major 2.
And I am very picky, when it comes to sound-coloration.
But maybe one unit isn't like the other.

best wishes
ed

 

[bronz79]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

With the global levels right setted the tone sucking/coloration is very..very little..and the same as G-system.
If someone want more must often spend more.

G-major 2 is a single rack multi fx at 400$..pretty good i think..of course a setup based on:
Lexicon,eventide will sounds better but maybe better only in studio enviroment.

 

[gbsmusic]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

With the global levels right setted the tone sucking/coloration is very..very little..and the same as G-system.
If someone want more must often spend more.

G-major 2 is a single rack multi fx at 400$..pretty good i think..of course a setup based on:
Lexicon,eventide will sounds better but maybe better only in studio enviroment.

I agree!!

 

[phil b]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

With the global levels right setted the tone sucking/coloration is very..very little..and the same as G-system.
If someone want more must often spend more.

G-major 2 is a single rack multi fx at 400$..pretty good i think..of course a setup based on:
Lexicon,eventide will sounds better but maybe better only in studio enviroment.

If your going to pay thousands on a Diezel head why would you look to find a cheap solution to your effects? The statement about the higher end gear sounding better only in a studio environment couldnt be further from the truth. There is a reason why pros spend huge $$ on touring rigs. Some guys have a seperate recording rig altogether, not too mention that depending on your producer, any effects are added after the basic tracks are laid down. Like I said in an earlier post, its all up to the individual on which effects are going to be used and how much they are going to be part of your "tone shaping". Gmajor 1 alters your tone. Thats a fact. Problem is so many guys hear "tone suck" and get defensive right away. Most everything that you add to your signal chain will alter your tone is some way. Thats not to say you wont like it better. I remember using my Triaxis rig and liking the way my Gmajor sounded with it. Did not like it with anything else though. Bottom line is what works for you is all that matters, but there really is a reason why pros spend as much as they do on touring racks. Hell, if I could get away with just a Gmajor and an amp that would soooo !!

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

With the global levels right setted the tone sucking/coloration is very..very little..and the same as G-system.
If someone want more must often spend more.

G-major 2 is a single rack multi fx at 400$..pretty good i think..of course a setup based on:
Lexicon,eventide will sounds better but maybe better only in studio enviroment.

If your going to pay thousands on a Diezel head why would you look to find a cheap solution to your effects? The statement about the higher end gear sounding better only in a studio environment couldnt be further from the truth. There is a reason why pros spend huge $$ on touring rigs. Some guys have a seperate recording rig altogether, not too mention that depending on your producer, any effects are added after the basic tracks are laid down. Like I said in an earlier post, its all up to the individual on which effects are going to be used and how much they are going to be part of your "tone shaping". Gmajor 1 alters your tone. Thats a fact. Problem is so many guys hear "tone suck" and get defensive right away. Most everything that you add to your signal chain will alter your tone is some way. Thats not to say you wont like it better. I remember using my Triaxis rig and liking the way my Gmajor sounded with it. Did not like it with anything else though. Bottom line is what works for you is all that matters, but there really is a reason why pros spend as much as they do on touring racks. Hell, if I could get away with just a Gmajor and an amp that would soooo !!

My answer to that question would be because there is no reason to spend more. I didn't get mine because it was cheap, i got it because it sounds great! it just so happens to also not be prohibitively expensive.

the g major 2 sounds unbelievable and is barely perceptible, why spend more money for no reason at all? I spent thousands on my Diezel because there was no low cost solution, if you want the Diezel tone you must have the Diezel amp.

The other guys statement was that the G major 2 has terrible tone suck, he obviously didn't get the levels set correctly, it does not.

 

[gbsmusic]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

With the global levels right setted the tone sucking/coloration is very..very little..and the same as G-system.
If someone want more must often spend more.

G-major 2 is a single rack multi fx at 400$..pretty good i think..of course a setup based on:
Lexicon,eventide will sounds better but maybe better only in studio enviroment.

If your going to pay thousands on a Diezel head why would you look to find a cheap solution to your effects? The statement about the higher end gear sounding better only in a studio environment couldnt be further from the truth. There is a reason why pros spend huge $$ on touring rigs. Some guys have a seperate recording rig altogether, not too mention that depending on your producer, any effects are added after the basic tracks are laid down. Like I said in an earlier post, its all up to the individual on which effects are going to be used and how much they are going to be part of your "tone shaping". Gmajor 1 alters your tone. Thats a fact. Problem is so many guys hear "tone suck" and get defensive right away. Most everything that you add to your signal chain will alter your tone is some way. Thats not to say you wont like it better. I remember using my Triaxis rig and liking the way my Gmajor sounded with it. Did not like it with anything else though. Bottom line is what works for you is all that matters, but there really is a reason why pros spend as much as they do on touring racks. Hell, if I could get away with just a Gmajor and an amp that would soooo !!

My answer to that question would be because there is no reason to spend more. I didn't get mine because it was cheap, i got it because it sounds great! it just so happens to also not be prohibitively expensive.

the g major 2 sounds unbelievable and is barely perceptible, why spend more money for no reason at all? I spent thousands on my Diezel because there was no low cost solution, if you want the Diezel tone you must have the Diezel amp.

The other guys statement was that the G major 2 has terrible tone suck, he obviously didn't get the levels set correctly, it does not.

I agree 100% I had a G-System a G-Force and even an Eclipse and the G Major 2 does'nt sound bad compared to the others, it doesn't have the depth when it comes to editing but its a great unit and it just happens to be affordable! I would pay more for it but I didn't have to.

 

[bronz79]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

With the global levels right setted the tone sucking/coloration is very..very little..and the same as G-system.
If someone want more must often spend more.

G-major 2 is a single rack multi fx at 400$..pretty good i think..of course a setup based on:
Lexicon,eventide will sounds better but maybe better only in studio enviroment.

If your going to pay thousands on a Diezel head why would you look to find a cheap solution to your effects? The statement about the higher end gear sounding better only in a studio environment couldnt be further from the truth. There is a reason why pros spend huge $$ on touring rigs. Some guys have a seperate recording rig altogether, not too mention that depending on your producer, any effects are added after the basic tracks are laid down. Like I said in an earlier post, its all up to the individual on which effects are going to be used and how much they are going to be part of your "tone shaping". Gmajor 1 alters your tone. Thats a fact. Problem is so many guys hear "tone suck" and get defensive right away. Most everything that you add to your signal chain will alter your tone is some way. Thats not to say you wont like it better. I remember using my Triaxis rig and liking the way my Gmajor sounded with it. Did not like it with anything else though. Bottom line is what works for you is all that matters, but there really is a reason why pros spend as much as they do on touring racks. Hell, if I could get away with just a Gmajor and an amp that would soooo !!

If you want to apply another sense to my words fell free to do it no problem.
I've read that gbmusic want an affordable rack multifx..not that he want the absolute best on the market.
Why you haven't criticized the posts that says that the eclipse is not suitable for guitar use or is like an amp sim?

Eclipse is far better than g-major1-2,nova system and g-system..but is not the "best"

so Gbmusic to let you Diezel amp signal intact please buy this simple setup :

-Eventide h7600 or for the price maybe an hw8000 for main effetcs
-Bricasti m7 or a Lexicon PCM96 for reverb
-Dunlop rack wha
-Furman P-2400 AR Voltage Regulator/Power Conditioner
-GORDIUS Foot controller

better sound..features..better at all..but the price is about 12000$...

 

[gbsmusic]

I've liked everything Ive tried and I do like the GM2 a lot! I have to stop here as far as the spending goes!! I'm in this rig way more than I ever wanted to be!! The bottom line is I'm very happy and I will upgrade some day or maybe not. Maybe a Suhr Modern 1st I see some of the rigs and equipment guys on this forum have and just dream maybe some day! I'm very lucky to have what I have now. Thank you every one for all the advice!!

 

[phil b]

If you want to apply another sense to my words fell free to do it no problem.
I've read that gbmusic want an affordable rack multifx..not that he want the absolute best on the market.
Why you haven't criticized the posts that says that the eclipse is not suitable for guitar use or is like an amp sim?

Eclipse is far better than g-major1-2,nova system and g-system..but is not the "best"

so Gbmusic to let you Diezel amp signal intact please buy this simple setup :

-Eventide h7600 or for the price maybe an hw8000 for main effetcs
-Bricasti m7 or a Lexicon PCM96 for reverb
-Dunlop rack wha
-Furman P-2400 AR Voltage Regulator/Power Conditioner
-GORDIUS Foot controller

better sound..features..better at all..but the price is about 12000$...

I was only addressing your comment about the Lexicon and Eventide units "maybe" only sounding better in a studio environment, nothing else.
You say the Eclipse is better than the Gmajor 1.. but hands down the Gmajor has no lag like the Eclipse does when switching. Which do you need more? It all depends on how your using the units.. not how much $$$ you spend.