Effects

[phil b]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Play it and then totally unhooked it out of the loop.

Colors the sound G majorly!!!!

If you can dial in a tone with it in the loop and it doesn't bother you cool. To me it colors my sound to much. And yes I own a G major.

With the global levels right setted the tone sucking/coloration is very..very little..and the same as G-system.
If someone want more must often spend more.

G-major 2 is a single rack multi fx at 400$..pretty good i think..of course a setup based on:
Lexicon,eventide will sounds better but maybe better only in studio enviroment.

If your going to pay thousands on a Diezel head why would you look to find a cheap solution to your effects? The statement about the higher end gear sounding better only in a studio environment couldnt be further from the truth. There is a reason why pros spend huge $$ on touring rigs. Some guys have a seperate recording rig altogether, not too mention that depending on your producer, any effects are added after the basic tracks are laid down. Like I said in an earlier post, its all up to the individual on which effects are going to be used and how much they are going to be part of your "tone shaping". Gmajor 1 alters your tone. Thats a fact. Problem is so many guys hear "tone suck" and get defensive right away. Most everything that you add to your signal chain will alter your tone is some way. Thats not to say you wont like it better. I remember using my Triaxis rig and liking the way my Gmajor sounded with it. Did not like it with anything else though. Bottom line is what works for you is all that matters, but there really is a reason why pros spend as much as they do on touring racks. Hell, if I could get away with just a Gmajor and an amp that would soooo !!

My answer to that question would be because there is no reason to spend more. I didn't get mine because it was cheap, i got it because it sounds great! it just so happens to also not be prohibitively expensive.

the g major 2 sounds unbelievable and is barely perceptible, why spend more money for no reason at all? I spent thousands on my Diezel because there was no low cost solution, if you want the Diezel tone you must have the Diezel amp.

The other guys statement was that the G major 2 has terrible tone suck, he obviously didn't get the levels set correctly, it does not.

I was merely pointing out that alot of guys will spend huge $$$ on amps and then they'll say they dont want to spend alot on an effects unit. I dont understand that. You dont have to spend alot of $$ for some great units, but to have that mentality of "I dont want to spend alot of money" is a little silly considering what you dropped on your amp. This is just basic rig building 101. I used an Itellifex since they first came out and it still sounds awesome, and is about $100 used give or take. Nothing wrong with finding something cheap that works, but if you didnt let money dictate what amp to buy then why let it dictate what effects to buy? For me I want my delays in parallel and other effects in series so I cant get away with just a Gmajor. Bottom line is if it sounds good to you then thats all that matters.

 

[bronz79]

I was only addressing your comment about the Lexicon and Eventide units "maybe" only sounding better in a studio environment, nothing else.
You say the Eclipse is better than the Gmajor 1.. but hands down the Gmajor has no lag like the Eclipse does when switching. Which do you need more? It all depends on how your using the units.. not how much $$$ you spend.

No problem at all!
I admit that the first firmware on Eclipse have a noticeable lag changing preset..but from 3.5 and now on 4.0 the thing are far better that in the past.

 

[i.ak]

I was only addressing your comment about the Lexicon and Eventide units "maybe" only sounding better in a studio environment, nothing else.
You say the Eclipse is better than the Gmajor 1.. but hands down the Gmajor has no lag like the Eclipse does when switching. Which do you need more? It all depends on how your using the units.. not how much $$$ you spend.

No problem at all!
I admit that the first firmware on Eclipse have a noticeable lag changing preset..but from 3.5 and now on 4.0 the thing are far better that in the past.

I know this thread is not about this particular topic, but maybe someone is wondering this.

Im also an Eclipse user and agree that it is rather slow in preset changes. However it is extremely important to think that is it really the case that you need to change the complete preset or just togle a part of it on or off. What I mean is that very often the case is that you do not need to change the complete preset, but you can only change e.g. the delay. Even with 4.01 software, the unit is rather slow in changes when the presets include massive algorithms, but with "smaller" presets it is more than good enough for live use for example.

There is also another very handy (and good-sounding) possibility to set cross-fade betweem presets. This will create very nice effects and smooth transitions by letting the delay tails fade.

 

[crabby]

I've given up on the G-System, I cant get the noise out of it, no matter what I've tried I still have a loud hiss. I was on the phone yesterday for an hour with a guy from the TC forum and he couldn't figure it out. What effects are you using with you amp. I have to have delay but I also like reverb and chorus. I just sold all my pedals to buy this G-System and I hate the thought of buying pedals again but I might end up doing it.

Been There, Done That.....Now!!! rjm rg16, mastermind n some pedals OR digitech gsp1101!

gwacker, noise maker, tone sucker, DESTROY!

 

[Nico]

Einstein 100W head here, Eventide TimeFactor - great, great, great!, occasional boost (Suhr Koko and NAudio Firesound) and wah (Dunlop - the simplest one) ....

How is the Koko Boost, im actually wanting to buy one. But also considering getting a Majik Box Rocket Fuel

 

[King Crimson]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Dude, put the meth pipe down. You're nuts. The tc electronic g-major 1&2 are the most transparent rack units on the market.

You must have done some work for tc and they fired you for good reasons- disgruntled little one.

 

[King Crimson]

Gmajor 1 or 2 = tone sucker

Dude, put the meth pipe down. You're nuts. The tc electronic g-major 1&2 are the most transparent rack units on the market.

You must have done some work for tc and they fired you for good reasons- disgruntled little one.

 

[King Crimson]

Gmajor 1 alters your tone. Thats a fact.

Totally disagree. You must know how to properly use the g-major to allow the unit to be completely transparent.

 

[phil b]

Gmajor 1 alters your tone. Thats a fact.

Totally disagree. You must know how to properly use the g-major to allow the unit to be completely transparent.

I agree that you have to know how to properly use it, and that would be with a mixer if you want it completely transparent.

 

[Kev]

If you just want the chorus on a clean patch, then consider running a chorus pedal in front of the amp. Other modulationeffects like phaser and flanger even sound great or better when running in front of the distortion.
then get any good delay pedal or rack effect (boss dd-whatever, tc nova, dl4, time-factor...) and stick it into the parallel loop (dont forget to kill the dry-signal from the delay!!).
the intellifex is ok. it doesn't color the sound but thins it out a little, imo.

so basically try to use modulation in front of the amp, because it does less damage to your tone. ambiance effects you can then use in the parallel loop, so again your tone wont be harmed.

i use a boss gt-10 for pickup selection, modulation and noise gate in front and currently an intellifex (but i'll get myself "any good delay pedal") in the parallel loop for delay and sometimes reverb.
the boss gt-10 also thins the sound a little, but it works better then using separate noise gate, modulation and a/b-stompboxes (even in a looper).

Hope to help!

 

[proxmax]

i use the g-force with the herbert and i'm happy with.
tried a lot earlier like g-major, intellifex, quadraverb+, lexicon mpx1....
now i'm home - all works great.

cheers
klaus