FastRedPonyCar
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is there any estimated cost yet? $1000~$1400~ish?
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bruce egnater
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Should be
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$1200 with 2 modules. Frank at The Amplounge will be handling the distribution of them. Should also be able to purchase through our other dealers also.
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FastRedPonyCar
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outstanding. does that include the 6 button footswitch or does the E2 not use that one? I think what I'd ultimately be after is using the E2 going into the renegade's fx loop return. And then (if this will work) hitting the fx loop off switch on the renegade footswitch to switch over to using the renegade's preamp and just bypassing the E2 for certain stuff.
Would that work like that or once the E2 goes into the fx loop return, is the renegade's preamp bypassed completely?
Would that work like that or once the E2 goes into the fx loop return, is the renegade's preamp bypassed completely?
SilverSpoons
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I see the $1200 includes two modules, is that two modules of your choice or our choice?
Len Rabinowitz
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bruce egnater":3ncbzfq6 said:
Any availability date on it yet?
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shade
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From what I understand the E2 is designed to go in front and in the loop at teh same time. It either is bypassed to go through your amp front end or when you engage an E2 module the amp pre is bypassed and it goes straight to the loop return. Not sure any other preamp has this feature built in.... pretty friggen awsome!
FastRedPonyCar":x833n2ob said:
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shade
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Anyone know if the E2 will be available empty or do you have to buy modules?
jkdsteve
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shade":25by8l2h said:
That is usually down to the dealer....I believe it was previously stated (long time ago now) that initial runs of the E2 would be sold loaded only. Nothing stops a dealer buying one loaded and selling the modules/head individually in this case.....it's purely at their discretion.
Thinking back on the M4 they were only available loaded at one point but you could get them with 1,2,3 or 4 modules at various points in time...and prior (Egnater modular) customers were able to get them unloaded.
Bruce/Jeff also previously stated that selling unloaded M4s was a losing proposition as they typically lost module sales to Randall. Since then, the sales and production/development arm of Egnater have become separate entities...i.e. you no longer order direct from Egnater but from the dealer network or the 'Amp Lounge' (formerly associated with Egnater sales)
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Klark
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Personally, I think this entire E2 idea is silly. It is my belief that the E2 is not a top priority right now is because it's not all that necessary of an item, considering they're already selling a 4 slot modular preamp. Sure, the E2 will offer the internal switching, and be one rack space shorter, but even still, the E2 is definitely not going to take the world by storm.
It would make much more sense to simply redesign the M4 internals, in order to add the switching capability.
It would make much more sense to simply redesign the M4 internals, in order to add the switching capability.
EWSEthan
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Klark":8b4cpl8w said:
I think part of the idea is that E2 is supposed to attract different customers. Part of its appeal is that it is only 1U so it doesnt scare off guys who aren't "rack guys". The M4, simply by being 2U is too big for those guys. The E2 is supposed to be an add-on for people who already like their amp but want more tones, not "rack guys" like yourself who who have M4s and most likely already have switching systems and whatnot.
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Klark
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Oh I totally understand Matt, I'm just saying the two are so similar, it really doesn't make sense to have both, especially when they do the exact same thing, and they're both modular. What's next? An E6 for the guys that need six modules?? And then hell, at that point why not an M8 ?? It just doesn't make sense to keep pissing off hopeful buyers with continuous stories of a possible release. Bruce could probably design a retrofit internal switching system for the M4 over his morning coffee. You can't say it wouldn't physically fit because the original M4 had the series & parallel loop components in there that were later removed. And with all the craze now of using an M4 with a head, what better timing.
Same thing for the friggin' power amp. Everyone claims the M4 is a better quality version of Randall's RM4, then why the hell do they not offer a better quality version of the RT2/50?? It's Bruce's freakin' design anway, so move some shit around inside, build it with better quality resistors & caps, ship 'em out with better tubes, but for fucks sake, shit or get off the pot.
Same thing for the friggin' power amp. Everyone claims the M4 is a better quality version of Randall's RM4, then why the hell do they not offer a better quality version of the RT2/50?? It's Bruce's freakin' design anway, so move some shit around inside, build it with better quality resistors & caps, ship 'em out with better tubes, but for fucks sake, shit or get off the pot.
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shade
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Klark, please don't feel the need to hold back. You should tell us all how you Really feel.
To be honest, your e2 logic makes alot of sense, from your perspective. Big picture, I think a more economically priced unit with the built in switching is going to sell more units. Anyone with an amp and an effects loop can get the benefit of modular on the cheap. I say smart move even though it obviously pisses u off.
To be honest, your e2 logic makes alot of sense, from your perspective. Big picture, I think a more economically priced unit with the built in switching is going to sell more units. Anyone with an amp and an effects loop can get the benefit of modular on the cheap. I say smart move even though it obviously pisses u off.
EWSEthan
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Klark":rpxgu350 said:
Klark, man this is my candidate for post of the year. You have a way with words my friend!
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Klark
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It's definitely NOT going to be economical.. The E2 is slated at $400 without modules, while the M4 is $500 without modules. So you do the math on what really makes more sense.shade":3t5r1elm said:
And No, I don't hold back.. I tell it like it is because candy coating is for girl scouts and people that waste time & money.
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shade
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Again a matter of perspective... it's $1200 loaded, a lot less than an M4 loaded and it has the switching AND it's 1u.
I think it will be a big seller... we will see.
And I was just f'ing with you dude, I'm alot like you... emotions on sleeve. I take a bunch of high blood pressure pills everyday to prove it too.
I think it will be a big seller... we will see.
And I was just f'ing with you dude, I'm alot like you... emotions on sleeve. I take a bunch of high blood pressure pills everyday to prove it too.
jkdsteve
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$1200 loaded...plug and play with a current amp (assuming it has a loop), no messing with switchers or a power amp...it's genius...no brainer...unless you already have an M4 maybe.
Focus obviously switched getting the 'value' line (Tourmaster, Renegade etc.) into production...now that they're up the ramp on most of that, I can see them releasing this pretty soon.
Focus obviously switched getting the 'value' line (Tourmaster, Renegade etc.) into production...now that they're up the ramp on most of that, I can see them releasing this pretty soon.
Joeytpg
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from the perspective of a modular line user, it's not that attractive..... because you either have a Mod50/100 or an M4, but... think about it from the Rebel/Renegade/Tweaker/Armageddon/Vengeance/Tourmaster owner stand point..... you get to enjoy the amp you bought PLUS the modular line without adding a heavy poweramp (rack case to fit everything in) plus switcher....it's really a no brainer, I think bruce has a winner here.
I'm salivating for one.... with a D/D and a COD module
I'm salivating for one.... with a D/D and a COD module
EWSEthan
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Joeytpg":py3ywvhx said:
COD is awesome. If i still had a modular amp, Id still be enjoying it! However, some lucky bastard is going to have to take mine off my hands!
hippdog
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I'm playing through a Mod 50 with D/D, and Bassman modules. (I'm currently playing rockabilly and blues) However, I also own the COD and VOX modules. Guess what I'm dreaming about? The E2! Plus I can use the E2 with selected modules with my Mesa Lonestar special, or my Genz Benz Black Pearl..... I've got 8 killer Egnater sounds currently only useful with my Mod 50......oh, to hear the Egnater tones with my other gig amps. Bruce, oh Bruce, oh Bruce.
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Buckeyedog
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I just sold my Mod 'cause I was tired of waiting for the E2. 
BUT, picked up an M4 and now want that one space power amp!!! 
BUT, picked up an M4 and now want that one space power amp!!!