Fortin amp is only 25k

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CrystalSky said:
Sorry, my bad. Have you tried cloning an Mk2c+? This idea haunts me through the nights.
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For whatever reason your very rarely see any amp builders try to clone the Mesa/boogie mark or rectifier amps. Strange & maybe unfortunate since both of those are some of my favorite amps. I don’t have the tech knowledge myself to know why
 
braintheory said:
For whatever reason your very rarely see any amp builders try to clone the Mesa/boogie mark or rectifier amps. Strange & maybe unfortunate since both of those are some of my favorite amps. I don’t have the tech knowledge myself to know why
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Because Randall Smith isn’t shy about threatening legal action against anyone whom he even mildly suspects has lifted even the slightest idea from a Mesa amp, despite Mesa being notorious for doing it themselves.
 
thegame said:
Because Randall Smith isn’t shy about threatening legal action against anyone whom he even mildly suspects has lifted even the slightest idea from a Mesa amp, despite Mesa being notorious for doing it themselves.
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Maybe that’s why the Bugera Mark IV copy never came out and the trirec seemed to not be out long

But do we really want anyway worse sounding, pricy boutique, flavor of the month, neutered sounding versions of boogies like we see with countless “boutique” amps trying to be like Marshall’s, Vox’s or Fender’s? Maybe it’s for the better
 
braintheory said:
Maybe that’s why the Bugera Mark IV copy never came out and the trirec seemed to not be out long

But do we really want anyway worse sounding, pricy boutique, flavor of the month, neutered sounding versions of boogies like we see with countless “boutique” amps trying to be like Marshall’s, Vox’s or Fender’s? Maybe it’s for the better
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Holy shit...I completely forgot about the Bugera Magician hahahahahaha!!! Oh man, the threads and convos back in the day when those were teased at NAMM :ROFLMAO:

Not gonna lie, I really wanted to try out their Bad Cat clone but never saw them anywhere at a guitar shop nor for sale on CL. Did that one ever get released? I know for sure they were up for preorder.

EDIT: They did. Just checked Reverb. BC30 it was called LOL
 
Krull said:
Mesa boogie can't even copy or recreate their own amps
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Agreed, but it’s not like Fender, Vox or Marshall can for themselves either, although seems like Marshall at least is doing better at it
 
PurityS.L.G said:
Holy shit...I completely forgot about the Bugera Magician hahahahahaha!!! Oh man, the threads and convos back in the day when those were teased at NAMM :ROFLMAO:

Not gonna lie, I really wanted to try out their Bad Cat clone but never saw them anywhere at a guitar shop nor for sale on CL. Did that one ever get released? I know for sure they were up for preorder.

EDIT: They did. Just checked Reverb. BC30 it was called LOL
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Thanks for reminding me it was called a Magician haha (I forgot) and for reminding me about the BC30. Those amps may have actually sounded decent if they came out, but we won’t know I guess
 
thegame said:
Because Randall Smith isn’t shy about threatening legal action against anyone whom he even mildly suspects has lifted even the slightest idea from a Mesa amp, despite Mesa being notorious for doing it themselves.
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Interesting. I thought all the patents are expired. Then again, what can he do if we build some in other country?
 
braintheory said:
Maybe that’s why the Bugera Mark IV copy never came out and the trirec seemed to not be out long

But do we really want anyway worse sounding, pricy boutique, flavor of the month, neutered sounding versions of boogies like we see with countless “boutique” amps trying to be like Marshall’s, Vox’s or Fender’s? Maybe it’s for the better
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We haven’t yet seen “boutique” or any orher copy of Mesa yet, so might sound just as good. That’s why I am so curious.
 
CrystalSky said:
We haven’t yet seen “boutique” or any orher copy of Mesa yet, so might sound just as good. That’s why I am so curious.
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I’d lie if I didn’t say I’m curious as well, but the one aspect we can’t really rely on any of them getting right is the more raw, mature/seasoned sound of the vintage amps, but a more modernized take is interesting to me too. I’m just sick of amps trying to sound like something they’re not (vintage or raw)
 
The driftwood is a dual rec clone...
Mesa's patents have all expired now anyway
 
braintheory said:
For whatever reason your very rarely see any amp builders try to clone the Mesa/boogie mark or rectifier amps.
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A Rectifier clone would then be a clone of the clone, because the M/B Rectifier basically is a SLO100, just with a few component value changes, other output tubes and the power supply extended with additional rectifier tubes. Mastermind of the Rectifier is and remains Mike Soldano.

But M/B isn't the only company who has basically cloned the SLO100...

... there's still the Framus Cobra and even the Peavey 5150 - just to mention a few of the many 😉
 
braintheory said:
I’d lie if I didn’t say I’m curious as well, but the one aspect we can’t really rely on any of them getting right is the more raw, mature/seasoned sound of the vintage amps, but a more modernized take is interesting to me too. I’m just sick of amps trying to sound like something they’re not (vintage or raw)
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Direct copy can yield the needed result I guess
 
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