FORTIN's Evil Pumpkin – Made in China?

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If his amps are so great you would think he would get em done and maybe lower the price a wee bit. In other words put himself in the race amongst amp builders. Myself I bought a few 2500-3k amps and wondered why after plugging back into a 73 superlead with a boost. That's really what most of these amps are based on anyways if you/neighbors can take the volume.
 
Larry's reason behind what he does is different than most everybody else's reason for doing business. He isn't after selling a million amps and being a big company. He also isn't money driven. I gather that he is a passionate "hobbyist" running a very small business that is a perfectionist with immense pride and time spent into what he has developed. Trying to put him in a typical business model isn't his thing. I commend him for knowing what works for him and not deviating from that. I respect and appreciate his passion for what he does. I also understand why he is so upset for his circuits being lifted. Again, it is very personal and near and dear to him. For most it would be about business, to him it is very personal and near to him. He feels a part of his life has been stolen. That is tougher to measure than dollars. YMMV
 
panhead":1wm2veh2 said:
If his amps are so great you would think he would get em done and maybe lower the price a wee bit. In other words put himself in the race amongst amp builders. Myself I bought a few 2500-3k amps and wondered why after plugging back into a 73 superlead with a boost. That's really what most of these amps are based on anyways if you/neighbors can take the volume.

yeah I think most of my favorite albums were pretty much non boutique gear. Hell most were just a Marshall plus a SD-1, Proco Rat, or a Fuzz
 
RockyStar":1uhoptsp said:
Larry's reason behind what he does is different than most everybody else's reason for doing business. He isn't after selling a million amps and being a big company. He also isn't money driven. I gather that he is a passionate "hobbyist" running a very small business that is a perfectionist with immense pride and time spent into what he has developed. Trying to put him in a typical business model isn't his thing. I commend him for knowing what works for him and not deviating from that. I respect and appreciate his passion for what he does. I also understand why he is so upset for his circuits being lifted. Again, it is very personal and near and dear to him. For most it would be about business, to him it is very personal and near to him. He feels a part of his life has been stolen. That is tougher to measure than dollars. YMMV
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Well said.
 
larrys atty is going to make a bunch of money ripping him off lol. must have seen a sucker coming a mile away the day he called him.

focus on that wait list and just avoid the internet for a while. life will get better.
 
Racerxrated":1b5y88n9 said:
RockyStar":1b5y88n9 said:
Larry's reason behind what he does is different than most everybody else's reason for doing business. He isn't after selling a million amps and being a big company. He also isn't money driven. I gather that he is a passionate "hobbyist" running a very small business that is a perfectionist with immense pride and time spent into what he has developed. Trying to put him in a typical business model isn't his thing. I commend him for knowing what works for him and not deviating from that. I respect and appreciate his passion for what he does. I also understand why he is so upset for his circuits being lifted. Again, it is very personal and near and dear to him. For most it would be about business, to him it is very personal and near to him. He feels a part of his life has been stolen. That is tougher to measure than dollars. YMMV
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Well said.
Oh yes, fully agree :thumbsup:
 
RockyStar":qhnq1zmj said:
Larry's reason behind what he does is different than most everybody else's reason for doing business. He isn't after selling a million amps and being a big company. He also isn't money driven. I gather that he is a passionate "hobbyist" running a very small business that is a perfectionist with immense pride and time spent into what he has developed. Trying to put him in a typical business model isn't his thing. I commend him for knowing what works for him and not deviating from that. I respect and appreciate his passion for what he does. I also understand why he is so upset for his circuits being lifted. Again, it is very personal and near and dear to him. For most it would be about business, to him it is very personal and near to him. He feels a part of his life has been stolen. That is tougher to measure than dollars. YMMV

Agree. Put very simply, I see Larry as an artist (albeit a very technical artist) and Fortin as a businessman. They just have very different motivations for building amps/gear.

Would have been nice if there could have been some sort of licensing agreement.
 
I wrote a bunch of thrash tunes with a "bro" in the mid 80s. He wound up using some of my riffs from back then in his next band. Never even told the other guitarist that I wrote them.

I wrote a song with the same guy in the 90s. He used that song as a title track for an album 15 years later and didn't give me songwriting credit.

He was an old friend,so I just let it go. But when it came time for that bands follow up album,his other guitarist(and main writer,a good one too)had quit the band. I agreed to help him write the next album as long as I got songwriting credit. Several months later we were done. I wrote all the drum patterns on a drum machine,structured the songs and he used a lot of the riffs I wrote. Needless to say,he fucked me over and only listed me in the thanks list. To this day I have not outed him on the internet,but several of my best friends on this forum watched it happen in real time...as in they were there as it happened. None of us could believe he would do it...but he did. Fuck him.

I understand Larry's frustration. My only satisfaction came when the third album from that band was released(music written entirely by my "bro")and it tanked super hard. That kind of satisfaction won't come for Larry. Fortin has figured out how to create something that works for his base at a price they can pay and get others to manufacture it. That is the essence of capitalistic success.

I would love to have a Larry amp.
I would love to have an evil pumpkin.
I would love to have 3 more DAR FBM heads too.

But as long as I'm dreaming like a schoolgirl,I might as well wish for a pony. Mailman and I have an idea for a reality show that involves farm animals. We are in pre-production now...
 
rottingcorpse":1p3zuol0 said:
But as long as I'm dreaming like a schoolgirl,I might as well wish for a pony. Mailman and I have an idea for a reality show that involves farm animals. We are in pre-production now...

Well I’m still looking for the zebra.
Oragnatan check
Baby monkey - check
Alligator - check
Leopard - check

Stay tuned.
 
Charvel Dan always posts in the same manner. I caught him several times.
Starts out decent. Then his true colors shows and gets tossed out.
Haven’t sensed him around in a while. :lol: :LOL:
 
Mailman1971":3gwtb4cq said:
Dick Butter Nuts":3gwtb4cq said:
errrrrl":3gwtb4cq said:
Dick Butter Nuts":3gwtb4cq said:
I had a Krull video game cartridge for my Atari 2600.

It sucked a big fat rod.
Hahaha... I remember the first time playing Combat on a 2600... man that was the shit :lol: :LOL: For me though, hands down the best game to come from the Atari 2600 was Pitfall! :rock:

The Activision shit was next level. I probably spent more time playing River Raid than any other game.

Diaper up bitches!
Definitely. Pitfall was so next level.
Played the shit out that game.

I stilll have my original system with about 50 games in a box stored. :lol: :LOL:

I'm on my third 2600 and still have most of my games. My current 2600 is actually the Sears Video Arcade version which still has its original box. Haven't played it in a few years though.
 
MrDowntown":9luki72b said:
Mailman1971":9luki72b said:
Dick Butter Nuts":9luki72b said:
errrrrl":9luki72b said:
Dick Butter Nuts":9luki72b said:
I had a Krull video game cartridge for my Atari 2600.

It sucked a big fat rod.
Hahaha... I remember the first time playing Combat on a 2600... man that was the shit :lol: :LOL: For me though, hands down the best game to come from the Atari 2600 was Pitfall! :rock:

The Activision shit was next level. I probably spent more time playing River Raid than any other game.

Diaper up bitches!
Definitely. Pitfall was so next level.
Played the shit out that game.

I stilll have my original system with about 50 games in a box stored. :lol: :LOL:

...the dragster game would absolutely wear your ass out...blistered hands an'all... after a while though, the joystick would loosen up a bit and you could go through gears like butt'a
I remember when i got pitfall....stayed up all night long playing it. i'd a been like 10-11 y.o....next morning looked like a damn strung-out coke head or something. :lol: :LOL: can still hear that crazy little Indy'Jones (ish) tune when doing the rope/swamp thing... good times.

when pac-man came out...holy shit.... all the kids built a camp at my house. even got a pac-man T-shirt :lol: :LOL:

I had a dedicated joystick just for Dragster. Not only was it well worn to start with, but I removed the rubber from the shaft to increase sensitivity. It was the ultimate in power shifting bliss. Hold the gas to the floor and bang thru the gears.

I still remember the night I fell asleep in my bean bag playing Pitfall. Woke up the next morning with the TV screen flashing green to yellow to red, etc. I even had a notebook where I charted out my path so I wouldn't go down the wrong hole or risk jumping a fuck ton of alligators for nothing. Never did make it to the end of that game or River Raid. The closest I ever came to beating a game was Chuck Norris Superkicks. Missed it by just a few Ninjas. I was so excited thinking that I was going to beat the game that I was sweating and shaking.

:D
 
Dick Butter Nuts":1kteyvjs said:
I had a dedicated joystick just for Dragster. Not only was it well worn to start with, but I removed the rubber from the shaft to increase sensitivity. It was the ultimate in power shifting bliss. Hold the gas to the floor and bang thru the gears.

I still remember the night I fell asleep in my bean bag playing Pitfall. Woke up the next morning with the TV screen flashing green to yellow to red, etc. I even had a notebook where I charted out my path so I wouldn't go down the wrong hole or risk jumping a fuck ton of alligators for nothing. Never did make it to the end of that game or River Raid. The closest I ever came to beating a game was Chuck Norris Superkicks. Missed it by just a few Ninjas. I was so excited thinking that I was going to beat the game that I was sweating and shaking.

:D
River Raid was soooooooo KILLER! :rock:
 
boyedav":1njprsht said:
maddnotez":1njprsht said:
One of them being: #1 AND #2 combined. Larry supporters who genuinely think he may have had his intellectual property stolen and also think Larry is mentally unstable.

I think Larry was naive and too trusting. I'm willing to believe that Fortin products might share similar designs with Larry's, and perhaps other designers. The bigger question is to what extent, and by what means. Using an internet forum for making those determinations is just absurd. All it amounts to here is theatrics. Wake me when we have a civil verdict or a settlement.
Well said.
 
larrys amps probably share a lot of design elements with the amps he copied when he built them. neither party has invented the wheel here. only one though is foolish enough to believe some scumbag lawyer who went trolling for a client and landed a gullible sap.
 
sleewell2":1esp2glx said:
larrys amps probably share a lot of design elements with the amps he copied when he built them. neither party has invented the wheel here. only one though is foolish enough to believe some scumbag lawyer who went trolling for a client and landed a gullible sap.
How dare you???
 
JerEvil":323eruej said:
sleewell2":323eruej said:
larrys amps probably share a lot of design elements with the amps he copied when he built them. neither party has invented the wheel here. only one though is foolish enough to believe some scumbag lawyer who went trolling for a client and landed a gullible sap.
How dare you???

I do believe you sunk my battleship!
 
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